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University police officer charged with murder for shooting of Samuel DuBose
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Bulletguy1
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by FrankieFixer:
“Again absolute race baiting nonsense. Why did he try to drive off?”

If you freeze frame this clip at 1:54 then edge it by the second you will see Tensing, the police officer, had already shot him. Yards down the road the car careers over a pavement where it comes to an abrupt halt with the engine still revving.....as a car would with a dead person behind the wheel and their foot stuck on the accelerator.

Had DuBose been alive and attempted to 'drive off', then he would have got a lot further than 50 yards down the road.

Tensing also claimed he was 'dragged' by DuBose's car, which can clearly be seen he wasn't, yet his account was backed up by Cincinnati officers Eric Weibel and Phillip Kidd.....the same officers who were implicated in the death of a 45 year old mental health patient at the University hospital five years ago.

Cincinnati Police made an out of court settlement to the family of the patient....giving immunity from prosecution of Weibel and Kidd.

Tensing could not have chosen two worse officers to falsely corroborate his statement.
dee123
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by Dotheboyshall:
“18000 different law enforcement agencies in the US all with different rules.”

Insane.
Fappy_McFapper
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by FrankieFixer:
“Was he wearing gang colours?”

Well he was black which is probably as good as wearing gang colours to American police officers and some other people
My usernames
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by FrankieFixer:
“Again absolute race baiting nonsense. Why did he try to drive off?”

You must be unwell, have a lie Down and come back when you have a clear mind
vinba
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by My usernames:
“You must be unwell, have a lie Down and come back when you have a clear mind ”

No he's right.. Driving whilst murdered is er.. an offence punishable by instant death in America...
blueblade
31-07-2015
If nothing else, this tragic incident shows just how trigger happy, American cops have become.

The prosecutor says that the cop appeared to lose his temper because the guy wouldn't get out of the car. Again, as with the Sandra Bland case, too many US cops losing their tempers over mind numbingly trivial incidents. Losing their temper over a child rapist, or murderer is more understandable, but not over someone who doesn't have a front licence plate, for Christ's sake !.
My usernames
31-07-2015
Let's stop calling this murderer a cop
He was a glorified security guard, he didn't undergo the usual cop training, I heard on the radio news that they turned him down, he's clearly unfit to be in possession of a gun, losing his temper like that, he seems to have some kind of personal deficiency
FrankieFixer
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by My usernames:
“You must be unwell, have a lie Down and come back when you have a clear mind ”

So when a black cop shoots an unarmed white teen are we to say it was race related? Your race baiting doesn't help the situation, it inflames it. What evidence is there he was shot because he was black and not because the cop panicked and was incompetent or received poor training etc?
vinba
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by FrankieFixer:
“So when a black cop shoots an unarmed white teen are we to say it was race related? Your race baiting doesn't help the situation, it inflames it. What evidence is there he was shot because he was black and not because the cop panicked and was incompetent or received poor training etc?”

Damn.. I knew there was an excuse Harold Shipman forgot to use in his Trial...

Oi you.. the gurning idiot in the back.. yes you...stop eating your bogies... When you stop someone just remember not to lose your temper and shoot them in the head.. let me repeat... do not kill someone just because you are angry...no you are not allowed to do it...naughty...naughty...what's that Bubba?..No you can't just shoot black people..No the police isn't somewhere to join so you can shoot blacks...what do you mean that's the only reason you joined? KK what? Pay attention at the back...
FrankieFixer
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by vinba:
“Damn.. I knew there was an excuse Harold Shipman forgot to use in his Trial...

Oi you.. the gurning idiot in the back.. yes you...stop eating your bogies... When you stop someone just remember not to lose your temper and shoot them in the head.. let me repeat... do not kill someone just because you are angry...no you are not allowed to do it...naughty...naughty...what's that Bubba?..No you can't just shoot black people..No the police isn't somewhere to join so you can shoot blacks...what do you mean that's the only reason you joined? KK what? Pay attention at the back...”

Hilarious. Now how about addressing the points? What evidence is there to suggest he was shot for being black?
vinba
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by FrankieFixer:
“Hilarious. Now how about addressing the points? What evidence is there to suggest he was shot for being black?”

In this instance none.. Just another trigger happy idiot in a position of power with a gun.. Although you must admit that there does seem to be quite a few cases recently where the 'victim' has been doing very little in the way of provoking the person in power and they have simply been .executed. A lot of these people have been black so I'm not surprised there is a fuss being kicked up.. It's probably worth seeing what sort of background this 'cop' had before jumping to conclusions.
My usernames
31-07-2015
That nasty black man was clearly a wrong un up to no good, wearing gang colours and everything driving without a front licence plate in an orderly manner. He was asking for it. Obviously he was
That other man was only defending the public when he shot him, let's not bring race into the equation despite the growing numbers of black peoples being executed and arrested without good reason only to later die in police custody under suspicious circumstances. Mentioning race makes some of the good folk on this forum upset, God only knows why,
So let's put this latest murder down to.... I don't know.... Sexual tension?
Philip Wales
31-07-2015
^^ I hope you show as much enthusiasm when a white man is killed by a black man. Or does your racist stance only work one way.
vinba
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by Philip Wales:
“^^ I hope you show as much enthusiasm when a white man is killed by a black man. Or does your racist stance only work one way.”

How many white people have been executed by black cops recently? And how is pointing out the increasing number of black people being killed for no adequately explained reason in any way racist?
Philip Wales
31-07-2015
Ah so it is about colour, not the fact the cop was an idiot, would we be having this discussion had the idiot cop been black and shot another black person?

^^and you'll notice I never mentioned cop in my post
vinba
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by Philip Wales:
“Ah so it is about colour, not the fact the cop was an idiot, would we be having this discussion had the idiot cop been black and shot another black person?

^^and you'll notice I never mentioned cop in my post”

Probably because there have been over 7,000 deaths so far this year!

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

That would be a heck of a lot of threads to cover each shooting..

Anyway this is about figures in authority being trigger happy and seemingly targeting a specific demographic.
tiggosaurus
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by FrankieFixer:
“Was he wearing gang colours?”

An unarmed black man is shot in the head over a minor traffic infraction, you pop up to ask if the victim was wearing gang colours and then accuse others of race baiting. Classic!
My usernames
31-07-2015
A little background on the wannabe 'cop'

Tensing's personnel file from nearly four years on the Greenhills police force, his job before being hired in April 2014 at the University of Cincinnati, shows that he used a Taser on a motorist during a January 2012 traffic stop, according to documents The Enquirer obtained through a public-records request. The officer claimed the driver, who was not identified, was resisting arrest.
What forced him him stop being a real cop in Greenhills to seek employment as a security guard?
My usernames
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by vinba:
“Probably because there have been over 7,000 deaths so far this year!

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

That would be a heck of a lot of threads to cover each shooting..

Anyway this is about figures in authority being trigger happy and seemingly targeting a specific demographic.
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But that's racist
My usernames
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by Philip Wales:
“^^ I hope you show as much enthusiasm when a white man is killed by a black man. Or does your racist stance only work one way.”


What is racist about stating the obvious? Can youR blinkered views allow you to answer this simple question?


Wait a minute, an unarmed man is shot and murdered by a failed cop and all you are concerned about is that black people are angry because it may be racially motivated, is that why you are bitching and moaning? You must have interesting priorities in your special little world.
vinba
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by My usernames:
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But that's racist”

Stop waving your gang colors (sic) at me!

They're yellow and grey polka dot aren't they?
Philip Wales
31-07-2015
Your very aggressive, you seem to have a chip on your shoulder regarding black people and or the police. I have stated that an idiot wannabe cop seemingly shot a idiot motorist for what appears to be a minor motoring offence. Colour should not come into it, it's you that keeps mentioning it.

You seem intent on telling us the cops guilty based on the fact he was white, the victim was black and the underlying trend that seems to be happening in America at the moment. I suspect you would of sworn blind that OJ was innocent. Myself I'll wait for the trial.
vinba
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by Philip Wales:
“Your very aggressive, you seem to have a chip on your shoulder regarding black people and or the police. I have stated that an idiot wannabe cop seemingly shot a idiot motorist for what appears to be a minor motoring offence. Colour should not come into it, it's you that keeps mentioning it.

You seem intent on telling us the cops guilty based on the fact he was white, the victim was black and the underlying trend that seems to be happening in America at the moment. I suspect you would of sworn blind that OJ was innocent. Myself I'll wait for the trial.”

This directed at me?

Hmmmm. Colour does seem to come into it as it seems to be that a disproportionate number fo black people seem to be killed or are dying in suspicious circumstances recently in the States...

Perhaps the police departments/private security firms should check out properly the backgrounds and motivations of the people they hire.

How many are simply looking for a way to express their prejudices against others whilst thinking that the badge will protect them?
My usernames
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by Philip Wales:
“Your very aggressive, you seem to have a chip on your shoulder regarding black people and or the police. I have stated that an idiot wannabe cop seemingly shot a idiot motorist for what appears to be a minor motoring offence. Colour should not come into it, it's you that keeps mentioning it.

You seem intent on telling us the cops guilty based on the fact he was white, the victim was black and the underlying trend that seems to be happening in America at the moment. I suspect you would of sworn blind that OJ was innocent. Myself I'll wait for the trial.”

Awww, poor you, I bet you think that those cops were helping Rodney King find his car keys, don't you?
Did You even bother to watch the video of the man being murdered,?
There are none so blind as those who choose to not see the obvious.
You love to use "seems" and seemingly" to try to undermine the facts as presented by the video evidence because it shows, what is for you, an inconvenient truth. The state prosecutor is far more honest in his assessment of the facts he recognises murder when he sees it hence the MURDER charge.
I suppose you will try to argue it was a lawful killing too.
FrankieFixer
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by tiggosaurus:
“An unarmed black man is shot in the head over a minor traffic infraction, you pop up to ask if the victim was wearing gang colours and then accuse others of race baiting. Classic! ”

Well this was in the press:

Quote:
“DuBose, who was the founder of a black motorcycle gang, leaves behind his fiancée, ten children and four grandchildren, according to the Cincinnati Enquirer.

DuBose has been charged with driving without a license more than 13 times between 1995 and 2009, according to court records obtained by Cincinnati’s Fox 19. Dubose had previously been arrested on drug charges, he has also been charged with driving while suspended eight times from 2005 and 2011 and with failure to display a proper a proper license plate on his vehicle four times between 1995 and 2009. Dubose had more than 75 offenses charged to him over his lifetime.”

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