Samsung to cut price of Galaxy S6 due to poor sales

Everything Goes · 30-07-2015, 16:15

Samsung had high hopes for the Galaxy S6 by making it more like an iPhone. However they have been unable to keep the premium price tag due to disappointing sales.

http://www.engadget.com/2015/07/29/s...nings-q2-2015/

swb1964 · 30-07-2015, 18:30

It would need to start with a 3 before I would even consider it. ...

clewsy · 30-07-2015, 19:29

£350 and i'll take one otherwise may as well go for the budget Android options which are high spec, low prices.

Mark in Essex · 30-07-2015, 20:05

I think their main downfall was non expandable memory and lack of removable battery.

Still a very high spec phone for the price.

Jimmy_Carter · 30-07-2015, 21:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark in Essex

I think their main downfall was non expandable memory and lack of removable battery.

Still a very high spec phone for the price.

That's why the s5 is a better option.

swb1964 · 30-07-2015, 21:31

At current prices, yes. But a S6 at 350, or better yet somewhere nearer 300 would make those two flaws a lot easier to overlook. Even more so if the 64gb model came in anywhere even remotely close to that...

mupet0000 · 30-07-2015, 21:43

You can already get an S6 brand new on ebay for £360-£370.

catsaregrey · 30-07-2015, 21:44

i had the s2 and s3 but the range since then just havnt been sufficiently different enough for me to warrant getting them. If i never had one of the previous ones then id be happy getting the s6.

clewsy · 30-07-2015, 22:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by mupet0000

You can already get an S6 brand new on ebay for £360-£370.

But how genuine is that phone? It's always the risk with eBay.

jaffboy151 · 30-07-2015, 22:16

Wouldn't even consider it with the lack of expandable memory, no so bothered about the battery as there are things you can do to work around this such as charging packs. Also not sure it's so much of a Samsung problem but the android software now on lollipop seems just too big in size, require too much ram to run smoothly and even then seems slow and drains batteries compared to IOS in my opinion..
Still love it's flexibility but it needs tidying up somewhat.

mupet0000 · 30-07-2015, 22:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by clewsy

But how genuine is that phone? It's always the risk with eBay.

Completely genuine, they are sourced from places in Europe, so they come with a european charger but they are the same G920F model as sold in the UK, the setup menu will show German or whatever language right at the first step so you simply choose English and continue on and it's exactly the same. (FYI: I have one)

With Samsungs it's extremely easy to flash a different firmware too, so you can go ahead and flash the EE firmware and get wifi calling working instantly, without voiding warranty too as the firmware is signed by Samsung.

If they wanna drop the prices any lower, the S6 will be the cheapest flagship of all time.

clewsy · 30-07-2015, 22:32

That's interesting to know. Makes you wonder if they can afford to mark it down? The cost of phone to make can't leave that much in the margins.

Resonance · 31-07-2015, 00:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by clewsy

That's interesting to know. Makes you wonder if they can afford to mark it down? The cost of phone to make can't leave that much in the margins.

I thought the margins for smartphones were pretty large. Not sure about Samsung, but I think the iPhone 6 costs about $200 to manufacture, so they're tripling their money.

swb1964 · 31-07-2015, 08:03

This article gives a figure of 290 dollars for the edge which is about 190 pounds.

https://technology.ihs.com/528618/sa...-iphone-6-plus

JordyD · 31-07-2015, 12:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark in Essex

I think their main downfall was non expandable memory and lack of removable battery.

Still a very high spec phone for the price.

I think the main downfall is the capacity of the battery. I'm sick of Apple and now Samsung who would rather make ridicously thin devices instead of making a device that will last throughout the entire day with a decent battery.

pinky_crew · 31-07-2015, 13:14

I had S6 and it works great. I guess the deal breaker was that there was no option for SD card

Mark in Essex · 31-07-2015, 14:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy_Carter

That's why the s5 is a better option.

I know (that's what I've got).

Always been a Samsung fan (apart from TouchWiz) but will be looking elsewhere if they continue with no expandable memory or the 128gb model at a decent price (less than £550).

jaffboy151 · 31-07-2015, 16:13

Seems like this might (hopfully) be a wake up call for Samsung. Make them stop believing they are the apple of the android market and can do what they want to there consumers, to embark on what they've done they really needed a phone with some cutting edge unique features to make people buy what ever.. But that's not the case so if people don't like, they buy something else or hold on to the perfectly good phone they have.

clewsy · 31-07-2015, 16:25

If they went for a reasonable price that conveyed excellent value for money, they would get mass sales and massive volume.

That would return probably bigger profits than now and hit apple much harder.

swb1964 · 31-07-2015, 17:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by clewsy

If they went for a reasonable price that conveyed excellent value for money, they would get mass sales and massive volume.

Interestingly enough that is pretty much where they are placed in the television market. Decent enough products at a mid range price- above Alba and Bush and the supermarket brands but below Sony and Panasonic and well below the high end brands like Bang and Olufson.

samantha_vine · 31-07-2015, 19:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaffboy151

Seems like this might (hopfully) be a wake up call for Samsung. Make them stop believing they are the apple of the android market and can do what they want to there consumers, to embark on what they've done they really needed a phone with some cutting edge unique features to make people buy what ever.. But that's not the case so if people don't like, they buy something else or hold on to the perfectly good phone they have.

iPhones are overrated but I can see why many fork out for them

When it goes wrong like many phones do after a while...just go to the apple store and they will give you a new one then and there..albeit refurbished.
When my S5 was broken I waited 3 weeks till it was returned and I am still having slight problems.

clewsy · 31-07-2015, 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by swb1964

Interestingly enough that is pretty much where they are placed in the television market. Decent enough products at a mid range price- above Alba and Bush and the supermarket brands but below Sony and Panasonic and well below the high end brands like Bang and Olufson.

They do very well in that market as well. Loads of people like Samsung TVs and I guess many would have the s6 if it was £350 for example. Just think of the units they would shift.

planetf1 · 04-08-2015, 08:38

I've been a fan of samsung for a few generations (S2/3/4) but getting fed up with bloatware, slow android updates , erratic battery life... and the latest lack of removeable battery & price hikes just add to that.. next phone? probably a mid range handset (300) or even a switch to apple (unified updates, simple life)

enapace · 04-08-2015, 10:22

Big problem at moment is obviously android fragmentation and fact that honestly most people couldn't care less about CPU or Ram who aren't spec nerds. Look at Apple iPhones specs are much lower in terms of CPU and RAM but far better optimised. Samsung basically stuck a new CPU and tried make it look like a iPhone this year. Not saying it's completely Samsung fault where as last generation Apple introduced Apple Pay larger screen size etc throw in the better customer support with iPhone and you couldn't go wrong,

Everything Goes · 04-08-2015, 10:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by enapace

Big problem at moment is obviously android fragmentation and fact that honestly most people couldn't care less about CPU or Ram who aren't spec nerds. Look at Apple iPhones specs are much lower in terms of CPU and RAM but far better optimised. Samsung basically stuck a new CPU and tried make it look like a iPhone this year. Not saying it's completely Samsung fault where as last generation Apple introduced Apple Pay larger screen size etc throw in the better customer support with iPhone and you couldn't go wrong,

While im not a fan of Apples locked down ecosystem if the average consumer were to look at the S6 and compare it with an iPhone 6 you would go with the iPhone due to much better support. Samsung have shot themselves in the foot. There is now very little to differentiate between a Galaxy S6 and and iPhone 6. The iPhone 6 and 6 Plus are actually very polished phones. For the first time I can say they managed to hit the mark with them.

30-07-2015, 16:15	#1
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Samsung to cut price of Galaxy S6 due to poor sales Samsung had high hopes for the Galaxy S6 by making it more like an iPhone. However they have been unable to keep the premium price tag due to disappointing sales. http://www.engadget.com/2015/07/29/s...nings-q2-2015/

30-07-2015, 18:30	#2
swb1964 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,455	It would need to start with a 3 before I would even consider it. ...

30-07-2015, 19:29	#3
clewsy Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Midlands Posts: 2,860	£350 and i'll take one otherwise may as well go for the budget Android options which are high spec, low prices.

30-07-2015, 20:05	#4
Mark in Essex Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,644	I think their main downfall was non expandable memory and lack of removable battery. Still a very high spec phone for the price.

30-07-2015, 21:24	#5
Jimmy_Carter Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 259	Quote: Originally Posted by Mark in Essex I think their main downfall was non expandable memory and lack of removable battery. Still a very high spec phone for the price. That's why the s5 is a better option.

30-07-2015, 21:31	#6
swb1964 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,455	At current prices, yes. But a S6 at 350, or better yet somewhere nearer 300 would make those two flaws a lot easier to overlook. Even more so if the 64gb model came in anywhere even remotely close to that...

30-07-2015, 21:43	#7
mupet0000 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 620	You can already get an S6 brand new on ebay for £360-£370.

30-07-2015, 21:44	#8
catsaregrey Inactive Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 1,073	i had the s2 and s3 but the range since then just havnt been sufficiently different enough for me to warrant getting them. If i never had one of the previous ones then id be happy getting the s6.

30-07-2015, 22:03	#9
clewsy Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Midlands Posts: 2,860	Quote: Originally Posted by mupet0000 You can already get an S6 brand new on ebay for £360-£370. But how genuine is that phone? It's always the risk with eBay.

30-07-2015, 22:16	#10
jaffboy151 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Woore, Cheshire/Shropshire Posts: 1,675	Wouldn't even consider it with the lack of expandable memory, no so bothered about the battery as there are things you can do to work around this such as charging packs. Also not sure it's so much of a Samsung problem but the android software now on lollipop seems just too big in size, require too much ram to run smoothly and even then seems slow and drains batteries compared to IOS in my opinion.. Still love it's flexibility but it needs tidying up somewhat.

30-07-2015, 22:17	#11
mupet0000 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 620	Quote: Originally Posted by clewsy But how genuine is that phone? It's always the risk with eBay. Completely genuine, they are sourced from places in Europe, so they come with a european charger but they are the same G920F model as sold in the UK, the setup menu will show German or whatever language right at the first step so you simply choose English and continue on and it's exactly the same. (FYI: I have one) With Samsungs it's extremely easy to flash a different firmware too, so you can go ahead and flash the EE firmware and get wifi calling working instantly, without voiding warranty too as the firmware is signed by Samsung. If they wanna drop the prices any lower, the S6 will be the cheapest flagship of all time.

30-07-2015, 22:32	#12
clewsy Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Midlands Posts: 2,860	That's interesting to know. Makes you wonder if they can afford to mark it down? The cost of phone to make can't leave that much in the margins.

31-07-2015, 00:57	#13
Resonance Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 9,212	Quote: Originally Posted by clewsy That's interesting to know. Makes you wonder if they can afford to mark it down? The cost of phone to make can't leave that much in the margins. I thought the margins for smartphones were pretty large. Not sure about Samsung, but I think the iPhone 6 costs about $200 to manufacture, so they're tripling their money.

31-07-2015, 08:03	#14
swb1964 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,455	This article gives a figure of 290 dollars for the edge which is about 190 pounds. https://technology.ihs.com/528618/sa...-iphone-6-plus

31-07-2015, 12:56	#15
JordyD Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 3,983	Quote: Originally Posted by Mark in Essex I think their main downfall was non expandable memory and lack of removable battery. Still a very high spec phone for the price. I think the main downfall is the capacity of the battery. I'm sick of Apple and now Samsung who would rather make ridicously thin devices instead of making a device that will last throughout the entire day with a decent battery.

31-07-2015, 13:14	#16
pinky_crew Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 13	I had S6 and it works great. I guess the deal breaker was that there was no option for SD card

31-07-2015, 14:26	#17
Mark in Essex Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,644	Quote: Originally Posted by Jimmy_Carter That's why the s5 is a better option. I know (that's what I've got). Always been a Samsung fan (apart from TouchWiz) but will be looking elsewhere if they continue with no expandable memory or the 128gb model at a decent price (less than £550).

31-07-2015, 16:13	#18
jaffboy151 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Woore, Cheshire/Shropshire Posts: 1,675	Seems like this might (hopfully) be a wake up call for Samsung. Make them stop believing they are the apple of the android market and can do what they want to there consumers, to embark on what they've done they really needed a phone with some cutting edge unique features to make people buy what ever.. But that's not the case so if people don't like, they buy something else or hold on to the perfectly good phone they have.

31-07-2015, 16:25	#19
clewsy Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Midlands Posts: 2,860	If they went for a reasonable price that conveyed excellent value for money, they would get mass sales and massive volume. That would return probably bigger profits than now and hit apple much harder.

31-07-2015, 17:45	#20
swb1964 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,455	Quote: Originally Posted by clewsy If they went for a reasonable price that conveyed excellent value for money, they would get mass sales and massive volume. Interestingly enough that is pretty much where they are placed in the television market. Decent enough products at a mid range price- above Alba and Bush and the supermarket brands but below Sony and Panasonic and well below the high end brands like Bang and Olufson.

31-07-2015, 19:04	#21
samantha_vine Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 1,167	Quote: Originally Posted by jaffboy151 Seems like this might (hopfully) be a wake up call for Samsung. Make them stop believing they are the apple of the android market and can do what they want to there consumers, to embark on what they've done they really needed a phone with some cutting edge unique features to make people buy what ever.. But that's not the case so if people don't like, they buy something else or hold on to the perfectly good phone they have. iPhones are overrated but I can see why many fork out for them When it goes wrong like many phones do after a while...just go to the apple store and they will give you a new one then and there..albeit refurbished. When my S5 was broken I waited 3 weeks till it was returned and I am still having slight problems.

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Samsung to cut price of Galaxy S6 due to poor sales

31-07-2015, 19:11	#22
clewsy Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Midlands Posts: 2,860	Quote: Originally Posted by swb1964 Interestingly enough that is pretty much where they are placed in the television market. Decent enough products at a mid range price- above Alba and Bush and the supermarket brands but below Sony and Panasonic and well below the high end brands like Bang and Olufson. They do very well in that market as well. Loads of people like Samsung TVs and I guess many would have the s6 if it was £350 for example. Just think of the units they would shift.

04-08-2015, 08:38	#23
planetf1 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hampshire Posts: 521	I've been a fan of samsung for a few generations (S2/3/4) but getting fed up with bloatware, slow android updates , erratic battery life... and the latest lack of removeable battery & price hikes just add to that.. next phone? probably a mid range handset (300) or even a switch to apple (unified updates, simple life)

04-08-2015, 10:22	#24
enapace Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 4,249	Big problem at moment is obviously android fragmentation and fact that honestly most people couldn't care less about CPU or Ram who aren't spec nerds. Look at Apple iPhones specs are much lower in terms of CPU and RAM but far better optimised. Samsung basically stuck a new CPU and tried make it look like a iPhone this year. Not saying it's completely Samsung fault where as last generation Apple introduced Apple Pay larger screen size etc throw in the better customer support with iPhone and you couldn't go wrong,

04-08-2015, 10:34	#25
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Quote: Originally Posted by enapace Big problem at moment is obviously android fragmentation and fact that honestly most people couldn't care less about CPU or Ram who aren't spec nerds. Look at Apple iPhones specs are much lower in terms of CPU and RAM but far better optimised. Samsung basically stuck a new CPU and tried make it look like a iPhone this year. Not saying it's completely Samsung fault where as last generation Apple introduced Apple Pay larger screen size etc throw in the better customer support with iPhone and you couldn't go wrong, While im not a fan of Apples locked down ecosystem if the average consumer were to look at the S6 and compare it with an iPhone 6 you would go with the iPhone due to much better support. Samsung have shot themselves in the foot. There is now very little to differentiate between a Galaxy S6 and and iPhone 6. The iPhone 6 and 6 Plus are actually very polished phones. For the first time I can say they managed to hit the mark with them.