Steve: "I don't want to be the next Victoria"

You better ask Vanessa's permission, before you get too ambitious...

Steve tells Shelli he is voting for her to stay and that Clay hasn't asked him for a vote. But, but, but Vanessa said.......

Anyway, Shelli is just as fake as ever, "Thanks honeeeeeeey"

Ugh....

Shelli snivelling...

Clay walks in and comforts her.

Guilt trip fantastica

Ha! He really did though. Meg and James are really fun with Austin and the twins plus throw in Steve and Johnny Mac

I really can't listen to Becky though, she's the only person I hate on feeds. She has to one up everyones story and her tone of voice zzzzzzzzzz

Is it still Clay who's going?

Freaks and Geeks want him to go but the twins, Vanessa and Austin want to talk to James first so they don't blindside him with the votes.

Ahh OK
Thanks

Jackie said they can't vote Clay out as its against the rules
and Becky thinks her, Jackie, Meg and James are the only foursome

Lmao

Ew mother and son are kissing each others faces off.

Austin trying to sell that Clay should go all the time to HOH crew but nobody is biting. I guess their big deal will be over after they keep Shelli.

Twin's now thinking they should keep Clay.

Vanessa is always so transparent. Uggh. If Jackie and James don´t see through that then they are idiots.

Van is determined to get out John. What if the viewers voted her and John as their F2? What would she do then?

Does anyone know when this voting is closed? If its after the HOH comp it will be to late to save John i think. If he even gets chosen for this F2 deal.

She can be transparent to us, but it's probably harder to see in there. I've said it before but she's intense. She really drills the others with body language, looks and slight variations of the idea she wants them to follow through with.

This can be claustrophobic to watch sometimes. Imagine being in the same room on the other end of it.

Yeah and that´s exactly why everyone should want her out. It´s always the same with powerful women in this game, they overplay it. She acts like a complete nutcase. I want someone to put her ass on the block but maybe all the players left now are to weak to do it. Jackie seems to be the only one who knows exactly what Vanessa is doing (and John but i think he doesn´t even want to be there anymore). But she even won´t put her up.

If the twins keep Clay, they'll lose my support and deserve everything they get.

They lose TWO allies (Shelli evicted/Clay jumps off their ship), they will piss off Vanessa, although that probably won't matter since if Clay remains, Vanessa will probably be the next to go (they'll lose another ally in Vanessa whether she goes next or not, so they actually lose three allies).

Then once Vanessa's gone, they will be the biggest targets in the game since everyone sees them as a threesome with Austin.

Voting Shelli out will spoil the series, for me. Shelli and Vanessa have added so much to this series, even though I don't particularly 'like' them, I really appreciate their roles and I think it would fall rather flat without them.

I enjoy the twin dynamic, too, but that won't last without Shelli/Vanessa to protect them, so I see all the cards are tumbling down on my favourites and we'll be left with Summer Camp, yay...

I actually think Vanessa works best under pressure. After James won, she was subtle and calm and had a good attitude towards it all. Once she found out she wasn't the target, she started playing up

It depends on who wins HOH who we´ll be left with. Without Shelli and Vanessa there are still 2 groups in the house.


If you like that kind of a player. The more i have to watch her the more annoying she gets. Sometimes i just want to slap her to shut her up. And when is she ever subtle about anything?

Vanessa is the glue that holds that side together. Without her, there is no divide, Summer Camp become the majority because Shelli/Vanessa will be gone, Clay will run into Meg's arms, and Steve will be isolated, leaving Austin/Julia/Liz as the biggest targets.

If Austin/Julia/Liz prove their 'loyalty' to James this week by sticking by him (voting Shelli out), Summer Camp may give them one more week by targeting Steve first.

Ugh, the thought of James/Jackie/Meg/Becky/John being the majority/running the house makes me sick. James is the only gamer, rest are clueless players, or in Jackie's case, emotional.


I don't particularly like her as a 'player' (I did in the early weeks, but since her second HoH I think she's been overplaying) but she still adds so much to the game, and I appreciate that. Take her out of the game and the dynamics will change so much; that's surely the definition of a strong, threatening, dominating player. Does that mean 'best'? In this cast, maybe, but whether she's the best or not, she brings entertainment one way or another. Without her and Shelli, Sixth Sense fall apart and the non-players control the game. Boring; no thank you.

I don´t get your logic here. Austin/Julia/Liz are as capable winning HOH as James/Jackie/Becky are. So they could easily get rid of the other side too if they win back to back. And John won´t even be there anymore as everyone plans to get him out next week. As i don´t really like anyone besides John and even Steve now i don´t care at all who is there in the end. But Vanessa is definitely the most annoying person for me to watch. And annoying isn´t entertaining to me. She is almost on a Amanda level without the nasty side. I could take Shelli or Vanessa, but not both. One of those 2 HAS to go!

Clay staying will open up the game and provide me with more entertainment. Shelli would continue to be Vanessa's drone, even more so without Clay.

The twins can manage perfectly well without Shelli. Her continued presence would be a viable option for Vanessa to break away sooner than she otherwise might. Wasn't it only last week that she was perfectly happy to sacrifice Austin? It was Shay's paranoia that saved him, not Vanessa.

I see Vanessa as a very good strategist, I want to make her life harder, for my entertainment. I want to see Becky and Meg fight over Clay.

I want Shelli out.

I don't want Clay to stay, I can't watch the feeds with him on. I haven't watched for a while, just waiting for him to go.

I would like to see him without Shelli around. Him winning HOH and then gunning for everyone could be awesome. He says he will still be with Vanessa but if he wins HOH that might change and he teams up with Meg, Beckie, John. I think he is a wild card.

Will it really be a 9 person jury or are they just assuming?

Sounds like Vanessa is setting up Austin to have a fake fight with Shelli

Ho Hum