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EastEnders complaints regarding "b***ard" use
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ConnorSams
31-07-2015
To anybody who has complained...

Do you really have nothing better to do with your lives?

There's two main reasons that I have heard in regards to complaints...
#1: kids watch this show
#2: its inappropriate

If "In The Night Garden" or "Horrid Henry" was to air with the use of the b word, then I can understand your point, 100%. However, this is EastEnders. EastEnders is not designed for kids. If your happy to let your young "impressionable" children watch a show consisting of murders, explosions, threats, arrests, sex, drugs, alcohol, abuse, mental health, lies, cheats, thugs, violence, health issues and nudity, thats fine, but you cannot then take the moral high ground when one of these characters in said show says a slightly offensive word, that these days is hardly even considered a sware word anymore.

If you feel it is inappropriate, that's fine, switch off and watch something else. Like my previous paragraph portrays, EastEnders is a show that consists of heightened raw drama, if you want to watch a show where everyone is happy and gets along, go and watch benidorm... Oh hold on, sorry they sware in that don't they??

It's 2015, society moves on and so does the English language... I guarantee your kids are saying much worse than Carol said last night.

Really you have a choice get a life or move on, because to the rest of the world you look pathetic.

Kind regards

A complete and utter b***ard
joe gillott
31-07-2015
Inlove the scene! And personally considering how frequebt people on the streets swear...i think swearing before watershed should be allowed. Its pointless and brings shows down due to lack of realism. On kids tv only should it be absent. Sex, violence and gore ahould really be the only things having to be after the water shes.
0...0
31-07-2015
Heavens to Betsy I was so upset I called OFCOM. They told me to **** off, the bastards!
shrinkingviolet
31-07-2015
I wonder how these people can bear to leave their house if the real world upsets and offends them so much.

Maybe they carry smelling salts around with them so they can swoon dead away when bad language is used.
bass55
31-07-2015
I have OFCOM on speed dial any time somebody uses a swear word of if I see two men kissing.

But stabbings, shootings, rape and murder are fine.
soap-lea
31-07-2015
TO the OP.

What made your opinion so important that you couldn't add to the existing thread

Half of what you wrote is a load of rubbish passing off what you think as the majority of many.

As there was no warning about strong language before the episode. How are people supposed to know they should turn off so that their kids do not witness swearing?

The watershed is there for a reason. Fine its a one off but you are suggesting that people should not watch at all just in case.

As for the storylines mentioned surely its up to the parents to deem what is and isn't suitable not you.

People are entitled to complain as they see fit whether you like it or not and just because they complain does not mean the complaint will be upheld
ConnorSams
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by bass55:
“I have OFCOM on speed dial any time somebody uses a swear word of if I see two men kissing.

But stabbings, shootings, rape and murder are fine.”

But not for lesbian kisses though! I mean 2 men is disgusting but 2 women is absolutely fine
lordOfTime
31-07-2015
You know. I don't like swearing! I was raised to believe not to swear in front of people even if they swear like troopers in front of you! It's just how I think.

But though it was an eye opener for me to hear I kind of enjoyed it, seeing Max getting his rights read by Carol coming at him hard! He needed that! Besides, as swears go its quite mild and I've heard it before in the show! It's really no big deal
ConnorSams
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by soap-lea:
“TO the OP.

What made your opinion so important that you couldn't add to the existing thread

Half of what you wrote is a load of rubbish passing off what you think as the majority of many.

As there was no warning about strong language before the episode. How are people supposed to know they should turn off so that their kids do not witness swearing?

The watershed is there for a reason. Fine its a one off but you are suggesting that people should not watch at all just in case.

As for the storylines mentioned surely its up to the parents to deem what is and isn't suitable not you.

People are entitled to complain as they see fit whether you like it or not and just because they complain does not mean the complaint will be upheld”

That thread is to do with the actual use of the word in the episode, I'm talking about the complainers and EastEnders in general.

6,000,000 people watched the episode last night, 29 of whom complained.... The statistics show that it's a minority who are unhappy

There was no warning about Bradley falling off the roof, or Tony abusing Whitney, or that a 10 year old boy had murdered his 20 year old sister either... plus bastard and bitch have been used so much in soap history, along with slapper, slag, homophobic and racial slurs, so if they are that worried about it they wouldn't let their kids watch in the first place.

Graphic scenes of violence, murder, sexual content and stunts are used before the watershed too, so your point lies where?

Exactly, the parent deems it's ok for their child to watch the show, which I stated in the post, however they knew what to expect, and even know they are so disturbed by it, I guarantee they will allow their children to keep watching, and complain next time something like this happens, or they don't like a storyline, or are unhappy that the show portrays a wide range of characters...

your last point is valid, and I will not argue, but I'm entitled to complain that they have complained.
Whedonite
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by soap-lea:
“TO the OP.

What made your opinion so important that you couldn't add to the existing thread

Half of what you wrote is a load of rubbish passing off what you think as the majority of many.

As there was no warning about strong language before the episode. How are people supposed to know they should turn off so that their kids do not witness swearing?

The watershed is there for a reason. Fine its a one off but you are suggesting that people should not watch at all just in case.

As for the storylines mentioned surely its up to the parents to deem what is and isn't suitable not you.

People are entitled to complain as they see fit whether you like it or not and just because they complain does not mean the complaint will be upheld”

Nope, I'm sorry, but when people make complaints, we have a right to reply. Any parent who allows their child to watch a show like EE and then complains about a swear word is going to be ridiculed. A pregnant woman was beaten pretty badly in last night's episode, but omg, my kid heard the word bastard!

People are entitled to complain and other people are entitled to roll their eyes and complain in return.
Oldnjaded
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by ConnorSams:
“That thread is to do with the actual use of the word in the episode, I'm talking about the complainers and EastEnders in general.

6,000,000 people watched the episode last night, 29 of whom complained.... The statistics show that it's a minority who are unhappy

I'm entitled to complain that they have complained.”

Surely the very fact that just 29 people out of 6 million complained should tell you that it's a total non-issue and we don't need what will probably a heck of a lot more than 29 people on here complaining about 29 people complaining?

It's really not the 29 people who need to get a life and get out more.
shrinkingviolet
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by Whedonite:
“Nope, I'm sorry, but when people make complaints, we have a right to reply. Any parent who allows their child to watch a show like EE and then complains about a swear word is going to be ridiculed. A pregnant woman was beaten pretty badly in last night's episode, but omg, my kid heard the word bastard!

People are entitled to complain and other people are entitled to roll their eyes and complain in return.”

Yeah, if your child is that sensitive then I have to ask why you're letting them watch Eastenders in the first place - in the last year we've had a rape, a shooting, a racist attack, a car crash, multiple beatings, character deaths, etc etc...but ofc, one swear word and it's game over for the poor delicate flowers.
bass55
31-07-2015
In 2009 the BBC received over 250 complaints about an episode of EastEnders that featured only black characters.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/200...ack-eastenders

Tells you all you need to know about the hysterical pant-wetters who complain about TV shows.
0...0
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“Surely the very fact that just 29 people out of 6 million complained should tell you that it's a total non-issue and we don't need what will probably a heck of a lot more than 29 people on here complaining about 29 people complaining?

It's really not the 29 people who need to get a life and get out more. ”

But OJ, Now you've complained about the people complaining about the people complaining and I'm complaining that you are complaining about the people complaining about the people complaining about the people complaining and now Ive broken the
central plank of the space time continuum!
0...0
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by bass55:
“In 2009 the BBC received over 250 complaints about an episode of EastEnders that featured only black characters.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/200...ack-eastenders

Tells you all you need to know about the hysterical pant-wetters who complain about TV shows.”

**** me! Really? I hope they told them to do one! BNP tossers.
Sue_Aitch
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by 0...0:
“But OJ, Now you've complained about the people complaining about the people complaining and I'm complaining that you are complaining about the people complaining about the people complaining about the people complaining and now Ive broken the
central plank of the space time continuum! ”

Wins the internet
0...0
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by Sue_Aitch:
“Wins the internet”

Ta Sue! I really need to get off the internet. This forum is seriously bad for my productivity!
attitude99
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by ConnorSams:
“That thread is to do with the actual use of the word in the episode, I'm talking about the complainers and EastEnders in general.”

Nope, I posted the link to the complaints before you created this thread, just saying

But I agree, it's still terrible how people complain over stuff. Swearing, Gay sex scenes, gay kisses, rape, but never over things like violence etc.

I never knew about the complaints following the episode featuring just black characters, that's shocking! I wonder if they screened the same episode now would it receive the same amount of complaints.

I know lots of people complained about the baby swap but that was more down to the fact the storyline nature offended viewers.
Oldnjaded
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by 0...0:
“But OJ, Now you've complained about the people complaining about the people complaining and I'm complaining that you are complaining about the people complaining about the people complaining about the people complaining and now Ive broken the
central plank of the space time continuum! ”

Sorry but you're not allowed to complain, or indeed comment, on ANY subject unless you start your own very important thread about it.
Whedonite
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“Surely the very fact that just 29 people out of 6 million complained should tell you that it's a total non-issue and we don't need what will probably a heck of a lot more than 29 people on here complaining about 29 people complaining?

It's really not the 29 people who need to get a life and get out more. ”

Complaining about complaining is ok though. It's my favourite pastime

Originally Posted by shrinkingviolet:
“Yeah, if your child is that sensitive then I have to ask why you're letting them watch Eastenders in the first place - in the last year we've had a rape, a shooting, a racist attack, a car crash, multiple beatings, character deaths, etc etc...but ofc, one swear word and it's game over for the poor delicate flowers.”

Exactly.
shrinkingviolet
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by bass55:
“In 2009 the BBC received over 250 complaints about an episode of EastEnders that featured only black characters.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/200...ack-eastenders

Tells you all you need to know about the hysterical pant-wetters who complain about TV shows.”

I had no idea that had happened - the fact that nearly 60 people complained before the episode even aired as well.
starry_rune
31-07-2015
There was no need for it. There is a whole host of other vocabulary that they could have used.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MKmv7P01YA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGNrv2_Y4N8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TWAzGp4w2Q
cooler
31-07-2015
No one complains when someone says their a Mitchell. That's a lot more offensive.
Adrian_Ward1
31-07-2015
Was perfect dialogue for the scene.
Julie_Smith
31-07-2015
Carol should have said"youre a naughty boy" whilst tapping him lightly with a rolled up newspaper
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