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EE: Dean and Linda Conclusion?
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NELLIENASH
31-07-2015
It's a matter of weeks until it is the 1st anniversary of Dean's assault on Linda.

I can remember an interview with Danny Dyer stating justice will be served and Dean gets punished. Also an interview with DTC stating there is a conclusion to the storyline.

Have I missed something? Dean has not so far had any genuine punishment and therefore don't believe the storyline concluded?

Your thoughts appreciated.
Hank1234
31-07-2015
Mick almost killed Dean
John_Smith86
31-07-2015
I am not sure how much to believe but a friend of mine is a "journalist", I use the term generously, for TV Mag and she says that it is Linda who will be punished.

Apparently she will be charged for lying to the police about the rape.
shrinkingviolet
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by John_Smith86:
“I am not sure how much to believe but a friend of mine is a "journalist", I use the term generously, for TV Mag and she says that it is Linda who will be punished.

Apparently she will be charged for lying to the police about the rape.”

I can't see that happening. This storyline has already seen the rape victim repeatedly attacked, and marginalised, so have her arrested would basically be saying 'don't report or you'll be the one punished.'
John_Smith86
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by shrinkingviolet:
“I can't see that happening. This storyline has already seen the rape victim repeatedly attacked, and marginalised, so have her arrested would basically be saying 'don't report or you'll be the one punished.'”

But I suppose the question would be, was she really raped?

Did she fight back or say no? I saw a clip (not the whole thing) and she didn't exactly seem to be saying no, she was just silent.

It could be a campaign against malicious rape claims?
Harlowe
31-07-2015
I think the EE team have become aware how fed up and frustrated people was becoming with this storyline and it's been rested for the moment but it needs a conclusion and I get the feeling it will be dragged out till xmas and possibly even into 2016,.

it's overall been disastrous and one of the most badly handled storylines they've come up with the damage it done to the Carters and Dean's character is in repairable and the treatment of Linda has been disgusting, I so hope this is put to bed soon.
Harlowe
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by John_Smith86:
“But I suppose the question would be, was she really raped?

Did she fight back or say no? I saw a clip (not the whole thing) and she didn't exactly seem to be saying no, she was just silent.

It could be a campaign against malicious rape claims?”


She did say no and tried to stop him, Dean overpowered her and she froze which isn't uncommon.

She was raped that was never questioned, she however destroyed the evidence and waited too long too report it so is was her word against he's and the charges was dropped, I can't see why they would arrest her unless she did something against Dean.
0...0
31-07-2015
I'd rather they forget about it or have Shirley drown the little scrote.
NoughtiesMusic
31-07-2015
I assume Ronnie will be Dean's punishment now that he's having a fling with her sister. Ronnie may not know what he did (she barely knows Linda and was in a coma when the arrest took place) but she'll hear about it from others. She's already possessive about who Roxy sees, but when she learns about the rape she'll be on the warpath methinks. Dean wasn't charged, but Ronnie was a victim of rape herself and Archie got away with it so she is probably inclined to believe Linda.

What I find pretty astonishing is how a number of Walford residents seem to be A-OK with him around. I know he wasn't charged but still. Like, isn't there even the slightest bit of suspicion/doubt from those who would generally believe that the CPS did their jobs correctly? Billy was alright with Lola working at Blades for months, Les and Pam approve of Paul working there, Patrick and Kim had their doubts but are fine with him living in their house. A few months ago Jane made a comment about Dean and Ian seemingly brushed it off based on the fact the charges were dropped. When Carol had a bit of a falling out with Shirley (before they had that personal chat) she didn't even raise the topic of Dean to get back at her, plus she was getting all chummy with his dad Buster.
bass55
31-07-2015
The whole storyline has been a joke. There was no need to drag this story out for an entire year, especially when it hasn't actually gone anywhere since Linda reported the rape over six months ago. Since January we've had nothing but the same scenes repeated over and over, albeit with slightly different dialogue.

Just months after raping someone, poor little Dean was being portrayed as a figure of sympathy as he mourned his grandfather, and then tried to get custody of his daughter. They actually expected us to CARE about this sick little rapist. It's one of the most shameless things I've ever seen in this show. Huge error of judgement on the writers part there.

The only way this story can end is with Dean's confession and subsequent exit from the show. It's also the only way the Carter family can move on from this whole sorry saga.
Whedonite
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by John_Smith86:
“But I suppose the question would be, was she really raped?

Did she fight back or say no? I saw a clip (not the whole thing) and she didn't exactly seem to be saying no, she was just silent.

It could be a campaign against malicious rape claims?”

That wouldn't be the question at all, because anyone who saw that scene knows it was rape. I don't know how you watched the clip and didn't hear her telling him to stop. Did you have the sound on

Oh wait, nvm. I remember you from the GD forum. This is probably just another wind up. Classy.
shrinkingviolet
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by John_Smith86:
“But I suppose the question would be, was she really raped?

Did she fight back or say no? I saw a clip (not the whole thing) and she didn't exactly seem to be saying no, she was just silent.

It could be a campaign against malicious rape claims?”

She was raped. She was sexually harassed by him for months then he followed her into the kitchen, made a move on her and when she said no and struggled he dragged her over to the table, pinned her down and raped her.

She's the victim. Not Dean. Not Shirley. Not Mick. Linda is the victim and she was sidelined in her own rape storyline and worse, was attacked throughout it so it could become a storyline about the other three. The fact that even a year on there is still a question about whether it was rape or not despite it actually being shown says it all about how unsuccessful they've been with this storyline.
J-B
31-07-2015
Lol 'conclusion' - we're not even half way through!
Adrian_Ward1
31-07-2015
They will conclude it about xmas.
joe gillott
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by J-B:
“Lol 'conclusion' - we're not even half way through!”

We were from a while from what dtc said. He also said an ending was planned and theres no sign of it. I think in about ready for the next part of that storyline now as long as its not as bad as it was for hogging screentime as it was october-april
joe gillott
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by John_Smith86:
“But I suppose the question would be, was she really raped?

Did she fight back or say no? I saw a clip (not the whole thing) and she didn't exactly seem to be saying no, she was just silent.

It could be a campaign against malicious rape claims?”

Is this post for real? Like many rape victins she froze in shock and was unable to say or do anything. It was rape. I would rather they handled it where we saw bothing and we didnt know for certain so everyone could made a judgement loke the characters and so many fans have forgotton that only dean and linda know what happened for certain as they were there. Anyone else can believe whoever. However we saw what happened and Linda is telling the truth and Deans been in denial. It was rape.
danyell
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by John_Smith86:
“But I suppose the question would be, was she really raped?

Did she fight back or say no? I saw a clip (not the whole thing) and she didn't exactly seem to be saying no, she was just silent.

It could be a campaign against malicious rape claims?”

She did say no, whilst he picked her up and slammed her on the table. Loads of women who get raped say they froze and couldn't move. I thought most people know that by now.
attitude99
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by John_Smith86:
“But I suppose the question would be, was she really raped?

Did she fight back or say no? I saw a clip (not the whole thing) and she didn't exactly seem to be saying no, she was just silent.

It could be a campaign against malicious rape claims?”

First off, why are you commenting on it if you haven't seen the whole thing?

Dean followed her into the kitchen, grabbed her & kissed her, she resisted & shouted 'no' & 'stop it' & Dean grabbed her & forced her onto the table. She froze in shock, since some rape victims don't scream or attempt to fight back to keep themselves from getting into more danger.

Anyone who watched that episode know the rape happened, they can't broadcast it actually happening for obvious reasons but it did happen.

But like Whedonite said, this is probably just another wind up post.
Hank1234
31-07-2015
Dean is a lot more intresting then Linda
sorcha_healy27
31-07-2015
Originally Posted by John_Smith86:
“I am not sure how much to believe but a friend of mine is a "journalist", I use the term generously, for TV Mag and she says that it is Linda who will be punished.

Apparently she will be charged for lying to the police about the rape.”

That's a crock of shite. I don't believe it for a minute.
lordOfTime
31-07-2015
With the focus on other storylines and reduced Carter time, I'd almost forgotten about the story!

But I'm sure a resolution of sorts is still to come
johnloony
01-08-2015
EastEnders's usual idea of "justice" is that something randomly bad or nasty will happen to Dean eventually, but not in a way that is directly connected to what he did.
dd68
01-08-2015
I think it might be on the back burner, to possibly arise when Dean is leaving
srhgts
01-08-2015
Originally Posted by John_Smith86:
“But I suppose the question would be, was she really raped?

Did she fight back or say no? I saw a clip (not the whole thing) and she didn't exactly seem to be saying no, she was just silent.

It could be a campaign against malicious rape claims?”

Yes she most certainly was raped, she said no several times and tried to push him away repeatedly. Would she have been so traumatised afterwards if she hadn't been raped?
boddism
01-08-2015
Originally Posted by John_Smith86:
“But I suppose the question would be, was she really raped?

Did she fight back or say no? I saw a clip (not the whole thing) and she didn't exactly seem to be saying no, she was just silent.

It could be a campaign against malicious rape claims?”

She was seen saying "NO Dean, Seriously!!"

This post above is shocking.
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