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Will One Direction score 4th UK number one ?
well their new single (Drag Me Down) is number on the iTunes charts, do you think it will also reach number one on the UK singles chart ?
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maybe, i don't know if it will keep it's momentum all week.
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It all depends really if the hype continues until Friday. I am not surprised at all they are topping the charts because they did release it without warning so fans just buy it on iTunes. Don't get me wrong, the hype would have been huge also had they announced it, but not this big though.
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There's a high chance it will make number one. Although it has slowed down it has enough of a lead over the others to give it a really good chance at the one slot. There is no video yet though and correct me if I am wrong but doesn't video views count towards the charts too?
Also doing well in USA so should chart there as well although no chance of number 1 |
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There's a high chance it will make number one. Although it has slowed down it has enough of a lead over the others to give it a really good chance at the one slot. There is no video yet though and correct me if I am wrong but doesn't video views count towards the charts too?
Also doing well in USA so should chart there as well although no chance of number 1 They probably will make #1 |
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It could go either way. Drag Me Down was selling almost 5:1 what Glitterball was selling on iTunes this time yesterday.
It's gonna be another low sales week (Black Magic sold 59k last week and those sales will only continue to decrease). So 1D might benefit from the low sales period. Is the song on Spotify yet? If the song shoots up on Spotify then that will definitely help the song get to #1. Right now, it's selling 60% more than Sigma but again, that's before streaming is factored in. Still can't believe Story Of My Life never made it to #1 in the UK. It remains by far their best single to date. |
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maybe, i don't know if it will keep it's momentum all week.
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Having listened to the song now, I bloody hope they don't what a mess. They won me around with Steal My Girl and Night Changes but they lost me again
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Having listened to the song now, I bloody hope they don't what a mess. They won me around with Steal My Girl and Night Changes but they lost me again
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Yeah, the song really is average at best - it sounds so rushed and it just looks like a desperate attempt from Syco to release it just 1 day after Zayn announced solo deal. Plus, the lyrics are just weak, I find it strange that some say they improved lyrically and that it is commendable - Well, I don't find a song with the same verses and chorus without a bridge amazing, just lazy.
![]() Don't think however that it's an attempt to steal Zayn's spotlight. After all, they are going to perform on GMA in New York tomorrow, before a New Jersey concert on Wednesday. So it looks like it's been well planned ahead. |
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Agree with the "lazy" argument regarding the lyrics. Doesn't bother me too much though... There's sooooo many pop songs out there with weak lyrics, even if they have 3 different verses and a bridge
![]() Don't think however that it's an attempt to steal Zayn's spotlight. After all, they are going to perform on GMA in New York tomorrow, before a New Jersey concert on Wednesday. So it looks like it's been well planned ahead. ![]() Put what is more off putting to me is the not so great production and that fact that it sounds like too Maroon 5. When it comes to 1D I always have a feeling that they are still kind of channelling others without having a real sound which is strange after 5 years. When you heard BSB or Nsync on the radio you just know its them, 1D are still a bit over the place. By the way, I didn't imply that they wanted to steal Zayn's thunder but it does look like Simon wanted to make a statement that 1D are still here. Not to mention that Zayn tweet #real music that I'm sure pissed off some people. It is awfully convenient that they released it just a day after Zayn, a week afterwords wouldn't be this suspicious. And just because they do have a TV performance doesn't mean it was planned that much ahead, Simon has connections ll over the place, it is a breeze for him to arrange a promo even at a last minute. Plus, the song does sound like it is rushed, not that polished. My God DS already went overboard and the new album isn't even announced - there are currently FIVE news involving 1D on the front of music news I forgot how nice it was without those "news" that 90% has nothing to do with their music
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Sure, I know there are a lot of songs out there that are like that but I'm not just used to hear them from a boyband. Heck, even Will.I:Am who writes gibberish makes sure he doesn't repeat the lyrics
![]() Put what is more off putting to me is the not so great production and that fact that it sounds like too Maroon 5. When it comes to 1D I always have a feeling that they are still kind of channelling others without having a real sound which is strange after 5 years. When you heard BSB or Nsync on the radio you just know its them, 1D are still a bit over the place. By the way, I didn't imply that they wanted to steal Zayn's thunder but it does look like Simon wanted to make a statement that 1D are still here. Not to mention that Zayn tweet #real music that I'm sure pissed off some people. It is awfully convenient that they released it just a day after Zayn, a week afterwords wouldn't be this suspicious. And just because they do have a TV performance doesn't mean it was planned that much ahead, Simon has connections ll over the place, it is a breeze for him to arrange a promo even at a last minute. Plus, the song does sound like it is rushed, not that polished. My God DS already went overboard and the new album isn't even announced - there are currently FIVE news involving 1D on the front of music news I forgot how nice it was without those "news" that 90% has nothing to do with their music![]() Just get ready to avoid DS's music section in the next few months then
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I mean, I really don't mind seeing the headlines of their news when it comes to their music, its just all the crap between is annoying. I was hoping the media will stop with the fan girling all over the place, it's been 5 years. I really don't remember this huge hype for any other boyband before.
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I mean, I really don't mind seeing the headlines of their news when it comes to their music, its just all the crap between is annoying. I was hoping the media will stop with the fan girling all over the place, it's been 5 years. I really don't remember this huge hype for any other boyband before.
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Looking pretty likely now, according to first midweeks:
1 One Direction (41.5k) 2 Little Mix (16.4k) 3 Sigma feat. Ella Henderson (16k) 4 Calvin Harris & Disciples (15k) 5 Years & Years (14.1k) Race for #2 looks very tight and exciting
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Isn't that exactly the reason? It's been 5 years, which is a long time for boybands and, apparently, people are still interested in their music AND everything around them. From the media's point of view, this justifies writing all those articles; they must be getting lots of clicks and views.
Take That were considered the biggest boyband of the 90s. Started out in 1991, got their first #1 in 1993 and split up in 1996 = 5 years. Westlife had been around for 5 years when Brian quit. They continued as a four piece and had one of their biggest singles in their career (You Raise Me Up) and were still having top 10 singles up until 2010. So maybe is it testament to the success of 1D that five years on, they can still release a new single and see it become an instant hit on iTunes all over the world - even if the song doesn't officially make #1 in some of those countries. |
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Looking pretty likely now, according to first midweeks:
1 One Direction (41.5k) 2 Little Mix (16.4k) 3 Sigma feat. Ella Henderson (16k) 4 Calvin Harris & Disciples (15k) 5 Years & Years (14.1k) Race for #2 looks very tight and exciting ![]() Once Spotify submit their stream sales for the week, there's a good chance of 1D adding a further 10-15k to their total sales for the week. Apparently 1D debuted at #1 on Spotify's global chart which seems extraordinary. Nearly every global #1 on Spotify has gradually climbed its way to the top. |
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Interesting point which got me thinking.
Take That were considered the biggest boyband of the 90s. Started out in 1991, got their first #1 in 1993 and split up in 1996 = 5 years. Westlife had been around for 5 years when Brian quit. They continued as a four piece and had one of their biggest singles in their career (You Raise Me Up) and were still having top 10 singles up until 2010. So maybe is it testament to the success of 1D that five years on, they can still release a new single and see it become an instant hit on iTunes all over the world - even if the song doesn't officially make #1 in some of those countries. One thing is certain though: One Direction are WAY more successful globally than TT and WL combined ![]() And even though BSB or NSYNC sold loads more albums than One Direction did (and probably ever will?), I'd say One Direction is even more popular than the others were. Their individual members (while still in the band) were never as popular and well known as One Direction's members. That's at least how I remember it from the 90s and early 00s, when I was a teenager. My students today would almost ALL be able to name the members of One Direction! I have to say I don't live in the English speaking world, maybe it was different in the UK and the US and everybody could name and recognise BSB's and NSYNC's members
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Exactly! Maybe getting another #1 this Friday (5 years after being put together) makes it "official" that we have to put them into the same category as Take That and Westlife (in terms of being the biggest boyband in the UK of their decade). We'll probably never be able to say who was really more successful, because One Direction will never be able to repeat Westlife's singles success, but are unmatched in newer categories (social media, itunes records etc.). It's like comparing sporting legends of different eras, you can never agree there...
One thing is certain though: One Direction are WAY more successful globally than TT and WL combined ![]() And even though BSB or NSYNC sold loads more albums than One Direction did (and probably ever will?), I'd say One Direction is even more popular than the others were. Their individual members (while still in the band) were never as popular and well known as One Direction's members. That's at least how I remember it from the 90s and early 00s, when I was a teenager. My students today would almost ALL be able to name the members of One Direction! I have to say I don't live in the English speaking world, maybe it was different in the UK and the US and everybody could name and recognise BSB's and NSYNC's members ![]() Westlife were huge everywhere, especially in Asia, except in the US. It is safe to say they would have dominated iTunes and Spotify if there was one in the early 00's when they were in their heydays. In fact, here is a little story how big of an impact Westlife still had in Africa even after so many years: when 1D came there for Comic Relief in 2013. 1D were mistaken for Westlife, And I don't agree it is such a huge deal that maybe 1D members as individuals are also popular - I much prefer that the band as a whole is recognized, who cares about their private lives. Thats the one thing I actually loved about Westlife, that they always came as a band, as one, there were no major scandals or gossip around them, it was about their success. |
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While I do agree with you that it is hard to compare these boybands you mentioned with 1D but I don't necessarily agree 1D are bigger globally than them. You just can't know that as there wasn't any social media, iTunes or even Youtube at the time when Take That or Westlife dominated.
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In fact, it is safe to say that in the 90's/early 00's, the amount of album and single sales were the real measure of your success.
Take That and Westlife's worldwide sales are relatively small compared to the Backstreet Boys. They were a true global boyband. Take That's highest selling studio album (Nobody Else, 1995) has sold six million copies worldwide whereas Backstreet Boy's highest selling studio album (Millennium, 1999) has sold 30 million copies worldwide. One Direction's highest selling album (Up All Night, 2011) has sold five million copies worldwide. The fact that One Direction's debut album has sold nearly as many copies as Take That's highest selling album - and at time when album sales are lower than the 1990s - is proof that Take That were not as big worldwide as you think they are. One Direction has record sales to back up their online popularity. I understand that people in the 1990s/early 2000s couldn't download one track on iTunes or Amazon like people can now, but One Direction has sold 50 million records worldwide, that's a great achievement in 2015 just like it was 15/20 years ago. Their tours are huge all around the world, their current one grossed over $100m in its first four months. Quote:
IYou can't possibly know how different would all be if social media and iTunes were present during Westlife's and Take That's time - looking at how huge their sales were, they would have probably been just as big as 1D are now. It is just that, back than you had album signings, newspaper interviews, fan mail and sales - you simply couldn't exactly see the whole hoopla now that it is easily present with the VEVO breaking records, Twitter trends and whatnot.
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IAnd I don't agree it is such a huge deal that maybe 1D members as individuals are also popular - I much prefer that the band as a whole is recognized, who cares about their private lives. Thats the one thing I actually loved about Westlife, that they always came as a band, as one, there were no major scandals or gossip around them, it was about their success.
Mark Owen has said that it's a good thing Take That were at their peak in the 1990s when Facebook, Instagram and Twitter weren't around. He said the band were able to experiment with drugs and sleep around without any of it getting out. Westlife are as boring as their music. The only scandal was when Brian left the band. Pensioners adore them and their stools. |
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Look, all I'm saying that it is difficult to compare anyone in the span of 20 years. It is difficult to say what would happen, 1D are obviously huge but its unfair to say they are bigger than any other boyband before when now they have Youtube, iTunes, Spotify which is a great advantage.
No one can't deny that social media is a huge asset for 1D, their fans did half of the promo for them tweeting and sharing videos about them. Because of such spread they don't have to promo to death, say in Norway or Island, Older boybands had to travel all the time, do countless promo. Plus, I bet half of those 50 million sales do come from US market which again is one market that UK boybands couldn't crack. So again, right there it is hard to compare. And I didn't really mean Take That were big worldwide, because they weren't, I was merely talking about them as their period of time. But Westlife were big worldwide, as much as you think their music is boring, and for pensioners - that is such a stereotype and quite untrue because people of all ages loved Westlife. |
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Look, all I'm saying that it is difficult to compare anyone in the span of 20 years. It is difficult to say what would happen, 1D are obviously huge but its unfair to say they are bigger than any other boyband before when now they have Youtube, iTunes, Spotify which is a great advantage.
No one can't deny that social media is a huge asset for 1D, their fans did half of the promo for them tweeting and sharing videos about them. Because of such spread they don't have to promo to death, say in Norway or Island, Older boybands had to travel all the time, do countless promo. Plus, I bet half of those 50 million sales do come from US market which again is one market that UK boybands couldn't crack. So again, right there it is hard to compare. And I didn't really mean Take That were big worldwide, because they weren't, I was merely talking about them as their period of time. But Westlife were big worldwide, as much as you think their music is boring, and for pensioners - that is such a stereotype and quite untrue because people of all ages loved Westlife. ![]() Just a quick addition to social media being an asset: I'd say it's not just a huge asset for them, it probably makes life hell for them on some days... |
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I actually agree with 99% of what you wrote here
![]() Just a quick addition to social media being an asset: I'd say it's not just a huge asset for them, it probably makes life hell for them on some days... Of course it is a huge burden for them as people but as a boyband promo is a hell of a lot easier now. Also, iTunes made music available everywhere with just 1 click of a mouse and 24/7 - you don't actually have to go into the store and buy a physical copy which all those devoted fans of older boybands had to do. There are just so many factors that have to be considered before anyone jumps the gun saying 1D are the biggest boyband ever. |
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It's a bit of a nothing song, but I guess it doesn't matter I suppose as their fans will buy it regardless.
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Back to the original question of the thread:
Drag Me Down has sold nearly 62.000 copies from Friday until yesterday; Black Magic (this week's number 1) has been sold over 33.000 times. Unless Adele drops a new song tomorrow or someone hugely popular dies, it's going to be their fourth number 1 song! (Technically, it's their fifth, as they are credited on the X Factor charity single 2011: "Wishing On A Star" - X Factor Finalists feat. JLS and One Direction) |
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I forgot how nice it was without those "news" that 90% has nothing to do with their music