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Humax FVP-4000T Triple Tuner
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grahamlthompson
15-10-2015
Originally Posted by sceptic:
“Wow, not heard that one before, that is a terrible implementation... ”

The box has no capability to wake on lan signalling, it can only be booted locally either by the remote control or by the physical switch on the unit or by a built in start up like a watch or record reservation.. So the only way is to programme a periodic wake up. No idea if the FVP4000T will be similar, however given the requirement for a less than 0.5W sby power I guess it probably will be. If so I would only pair the app if you are away from home for say a holiday.
bampsam
15-10-2015
Has anyone took a look at the new Panasonic Freeview Play TV range to see if the UI is any different to the Humax?
TerryH
15-10-2015
Originally Posted by call100:
“Another annoyance is that if you want to find info on a programme that is currently being broadcast, it will not give you the info unless you change to the channel from whatever you are watching.”

You can get info on the current programme by pressing the OK button twice. Something I found while playing around with the button combinations.
call100
15-10-2015
Originally Posted by TerryH:
“You can get info on the current programme by pressing the OK button twice. Something I found while playing around with the button combinations.”

You misunderstood what I was saying.
When watching TV live you then go into the guide and look at other programmes currently being broadcast, you cannot get information on them without the box switching to that channel.
The OK twice method for finding info in other circumstances is a basic function of the machine. It's also one of it's failures.

I think that a lot of the problem Humax have had is that because of 'Catchup TV' everything is so dependent of the net side of things. Hence the slowness and overcomplicated implementation of the whole process.
Personally, I can't see the point of the backward EPG, you only need the catchup service apps to achieve all you want. Ironically, they also provide those for you.
call100
15-10-2015
Originally Posted by bampsam:
“Has anyone took a look at the new Panasonic Freeview Play TV range to see if the UI is any different to the Humax?”

Yes and it looks far superior on their TV's. If they implement the same on their set top boxes then Humax can say bye to this customer.

My advice to anyone thinking of getting a STB for Freeview Play, would be to wait until the Panasonic boxes hit the streets and make the comparison.
DSman
15-10-2015
Originally Posted by call100:
“... My advice to anyone thinking of getting a STB for Freeview Play, would be to wait until the Panasonic boxes hit the streets and make the comparison.”

I'm certainly going to do that now.
gital
16-10-2015
Originally Posted by DSman:
“I'm certainly going to do that now.”

That's my feeling also, I am curious as to what the UI is going to be like. If it is worth buying then I will sacrifice not having three tuners which is what I wanted.
grahamlthompson
16-10-2015
Originally Posted by gital:
“That's my feeling also, I am curious as to what the UI is going to be like. If it is worth buying then I will sacrifice not having three tuners which is what I wanted. ”

Does the TV version allow SD recordings archiving, and streaming live TV and SD recordings to a tablet/smart phone ?
bampsam
16-10-2015
Having viewed a couple of videos on YouTube showing the Panasonic Freeview Play programme guide,I can only say Humax have a lot to learn. My FVP-4000T is staying,if only for the stunning picture quality. Just hoping improvements will follow!
call100
16-10-2015
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“Does the TV version allow SD recordings archiving, and streaming live TV and SD recordings to a tablet/smart phone ?”

From a brief look, it does seem to do both. Not sure about the archiving though as it doesn't mention that it records anything, so guessing that's a no then...
realistic246
16-10-2015
Originally Posted by bampsam:
“ My FVP-4000T is staying,if only for the stunning picture quality. Just hoping improvements will follow!”


Isn't the TV picture quality down to the TV? If you have a rubbish TV then the picture will be rubbish no matter how good the PVR/FVP.

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grahamlthompson
16-10-2015
Originally Posted by call100:
“From a brief look, it does seem to do both. Not sure about the archiving though as it doesn't mention that it records anything, so guessing that's a no then...”

A twin tuner device (or is just a single tuner) would be pointless if it can't record.

If it's not a recorder no matter how good the epg looks it can't possibly be compared to a triple tuner pvr.

My Panasonic TV has twin freetime and twin Freeview recorders and can record any two at once. It's no replacement for a pvr though.
grahamlthompson
16-10-2015
Originally Posted by realistic246:
“Isn't the TV picture quality down to the TV? If you have a rubbish TV then the picture will be rubbish no matter how good the PVR/FVP.

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Depends what the box does to the signal. I have a Foxsat-HDR and a HDR1000S connected to same TV. The later HDR1000S has a significantly superior picture.
call100
16-10-2015
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“A twin tuner device (or is just a single tuner) would be pointless if it can't record.

If it's not a recorder no matter how good the epg looks it can't possibly be compared to a triple tuner pvr.

My Panasonic TV has twin freetime and twin Freeview recorders and can record any two at once. It's no replacement for a pvr though.”

I don't think anyone was professing that the TV could replace a good PVR. The search is on for a decent one as we type.
I would sacrifice a tuner for a decent UI. So, I don't agree that you can't compare the two.
Hopefully Panasonic will keep their TV UI on the PVR when it comes out.
That said, there are going to be a few different Play PVR's launched fairly soon. Not sure any of them could out do Humax in the ugly stakes with their UI's.
Y Me
16-10-2015
Can I download SD content from the FVP 4000T to a memory stick like I can with my HDR 2000T?
call100
17-10-2015
Originally Posted by Y Me:
“Can I download SD content from the FVP 4000T to a memory stick like I can with my HDR 2000T?”

Yes you can.
HHGTTG
17-10-2015
Originally Posted by call100:
“Yes you can.”

But it only transfers in real time doesn't it? That's a real PITA.
grahamlthompson
17-10-2015
Originally Posted by HHGTTG:
“But it only transfers in real time doesn't it? That's a real PITA.”

Where did you get that from ?

If you have a PC look in Windows Explorer Network Devices, you should find the FVP-4000T mapped as a network drive. Simply drag and drop SD recordings to a Folder on another drive which is on your PC.
HHGTTG
17-10-2015
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“Where did you get that from ?

If you have a PC look in Windows Explorer Network Devices, you should find the FVP-4000T mapped as a network drive. Simply drag and drop SD recordings to a Folder on another drive which is on your PC.”

Sorry, talking at crossed purposes. I don't have this new 4000 device. I was talking about transferring recordings to USB from my Humax FOX 2 recorder.
grahamlthompson
17-10-2015
Originally Posted by HHGTTG:
“Sorry, talking at crossed purposes. I don't have this new 4000 device. I was talking about transferring recordings to USB from my Humax FOX 2 recorder.”

The slow copying is down to the process of decrypting the content. If you install the custom firmware the box can decrypt recordings in situ. Once decrypted they can be copied directly to a PC - no usb device is required.
HHGTTG
17-10-2015
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“The slow copying is down to the process of decrypting the content. If you install the custom firmware the box can decrypt recordings in situ. Once decrypted they can be copied directly to a PC - no usb device is required.”

BiB. I'm lost, sorry, but how does one copy directly to a PC?
mark165
17-10-2015
Does anyone know if it is possible to search the full 7 day guide by Genre?

I tried selecting Genre (by some fairly convoluted key presses!) to find Movies, but could only get a display of Movies that are on today? Does anyone know how to find a list of movies coming up in the next week?

I use this function quite a lot on my HDR-T2 so am hoping I can do the same thing on the FVP-4000T
Martin Liddle
17-10-2015
Originally Posted by HHGTTG:
“BiB. I'm lost, sorry, but how does one copy directly to a PC?”

FTP or using the custom firmware the Humax drive can be shared via SAMBA or NFS.
call100
17-10-2015
Originally Posted by mark165:
“Does anyone know if it is possible to search the full 7 day guide by Genre?

I tried selecting Genre (by some fairly convoluted key presses!) to find Movies, but could only get a display of Movies that are on today? Does anyone know how to find a list of movies coming up in the next week?

I use this function quite a lot on my HDR-T2 so am hoping I can do the same thing on the FVP-4000T”

Not that I've found yet.
Only for that day. Press the plus button when the cursor is on a next programme. Select a genre and press the OK button.
That seems to be the only way to do it and it only shows that days programmes. You can change the order into Name, Time, Channel etc by pressing the plus button again, but, that's about it.
Ridiculous really when the guide is online, you should be able to work miracles with it.....Not in a Humax world, at least.
grahamlthompson
17-10-2015
Originally Posted by HHGTTG:
“BiB. I'm lost, sorry, but how does one copy directly to a PC?”

Start here

http://www.hummy.tv/forum/forums/hd-...d-firmware.28/

You need the custom firmware to decrypt in situ. Otherwise you have to decrypt using a usb transfer (Foxy required to decrypt HD on copy to usb). ftp copies remain encrypted.
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