Thanks for your time. It's beyond me and my inclination to be honest. I thought I might be missing something simple but I am not the type who installs custom firmware. It must be an age thing and buggering it up is to much to lose.

It won't affect how your box works normally. It adds additional Linux software over the Humax settop application. You do need your box to be networked and something with a web browser to make use of it. I am 70 by the way

Never seen a post of anyone bricking there box and it's easily removed.

It's amazing the amount of basic, useful functions that have been dropped in this model.

Want to easily bring up info on the recording you're watching with one button? Can't

Want to skip forward or backwards with one button? Can't

Want to organise recordings into easily accessible folders? Can't

By reading through the posts I could go on, they've chucked away a load of features that people actually use everyday. What were they thinking? I can't get my head around their logic when they were developing this product. Bizzare.

Yep, I completely agree. I don't get it.
It's as if the people who designed it had never used any of the previous Humax versions.

I agree with all the above,but having watched recordings of Paul Hollywood meets Aston Martin,and The Apprentice,my box is going nowhere! I know I've mentioned it a few times before,but the HD PQ is so much better than previous Humax boxes I've owned. It is truly top notch. I'll live with the quirks!

Good luck, I'll give it a miss thanks, it will be interesting to see what the so called experts think of it in their reviews, 3/5 if your lucky.

8 out of 10

https://www.avforums.com/review/huma...r-review.11998

Same here even based on looks and ergonomics alone. I don't want something on my TV cabinet looking like a meal-for-two from my local supermarket, thanks. Anyway, I watch my TV's tuner and only want a recorder that will record 3 programmes simultaneously - don't want all the other guff.
My Smart TV has more Apps than you can shake a stick at and of those I only use YouTube (sometimes), BBC iPlayer and more importantly the Berliner Philharmoniker to which I subscribe.

Are you sure? I read this elsewhere,

Yes, that is just the settings for the amount of time skipped.......The point was that you no longer have a one click action to achieve the skip
You have to press the OK button then the left or right button. If pressing the OK button landed you on the bottom row of options, which it does frequently, you have to also press the up arrow to get back onto the time line.......To be honest the OK button is trying to do far too much.

Even though my Fox-T2 is on it's last legs, it looks like the newer box. It looks like it has just been launched, with an improved UI, after learning from all the mistakes made with the FVP-4000T.

I think you can press the Play button to display the Play Bar then use the Left and Right buttons to skip.

That's what I said...

You said the OK button.

Ah yes apologies, I did... They both work the same thing and both are not one button solutions.
Because of the remote layout, pressing the play button is more of a pain than the OK method.

I emailed humax to get info on ths box they told me the usb slot is at the back of the box but on avforums review site it shows the usb slot is on side of the box, have anybody got this box or know where the usb slot is located thanks.

They are both correct (there is two)

https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/saliant-points

I have this box. There is a USB slot at the back. and also one on the side at the front.

ok thanks for replys

Looks like the new Panasonic Freeview Play recorders are now available, but John Lewis are (incorrectly) saying the DMR-HWT250EB and DMR-HWT150EB both have Blu Ray players. If I buy one, do you think they should supply a DMR-PWT550EB instead?
I was waiting patiently for the new Hummy, but am not impressed by some of the news here, so await news on the Panny's - or I may just give up & get a BT Youview for £`150!

Just waiting on a couple of reviews and a checking of the Panasonic UI and then my HUMAX can get returned.
The extra tuner is not worth the appalling UI and remote layout IMO.

The FVP-4000T is suffering from criticism of its epg compared with the Panasonic freeview play TVs. It is also suffering criticism in the UK because of the usability of the menus. Some critisism of new menus is understandable until we get use to the menus being different from what we are are used to, but in my view it is not just a question of getting use to the FVP-4000T menus. I am certain I would not be able to get use to the FVP-4000T,. For an example is what is splashed over so much of the picture when you pause or rewind or fast forward.

I own and use a number of PVRs with frequently a nominated primary one so that I force myself to get use to its features and menu design style.
I still find the Youview interface mildly irritating, but I'm sure it is better than what FVP-4000T is offering. I've decided not to buy and try out a FVP-4000T as I wouldn't know who to give it away to after I grow tired of it. I am confident that I would not want to keep it despite its features ticking so many boxes if the user interface is ignored.
The interface design of the FVP-4000T has been used before in some non-UK recorders. It is not good news that this Humax style of user interface is spreading. This reuse of the user interface is possibly a sign that Humax think that is not beneficial for their overall profits to invest in an improved user interface. I’m sort of hoping that the FVP-4000T’s interface is only a stop gap because ethey wanted to be the first to bring out a freeview play recorder and that Humax will bring out a replacement for the FVP-4000T with a much improved interface within a couple of years, but flying pigs also come to mind!
The usability of the user interface of the new Panasonic has yet to be discovered. Just because the Panasonic freeview play TV guide looks better then the Humax FVP-4000T is not a guarantee that the user interface of the Panasonic freeview play recorders will be any better than the FVP-4000T’s user interface.

Although the Youview interface is now only mildly irritating I would struggle if it was my only recorder. On the plus side It has catch-up, you can use its internet apps and it will still record from the schedule, the latter BT versions are quiet, fit in a small space behind my TV, have reasonable strength tuners but it is lacking in so much, when you press record on a live programme it records until the accurate recording end is triggered (unlike at least previous Humax freeview recorders), I also use a mini wireless keyboard to operate the Youview which is so much easier just hitting the keys rather than picking up and using a traditional remote control. The Youview lack of manual tuning for me means that Humax Youview recorders mistune and then miss recording because they gets confused between different transmitters (TalkTalk Youview don't suffer from this). Youview recorders have no manual timer function or auto-padding. Youview has no DLNA. In my opinion the Youview search function is poor. There is no archiving of recordings.
May be you don't need these but if you already have a PVR you may well find that a Youview box is lacking something that you have got used to and wouldn’t want to do without.

I am very wary of the flexibility of the Panasonic features. There have been reports of at least some of their previous Panasonic models being more restrictive than other brands with what you can do simultaneously. What I am thinking of here is if you are using one of the internet apps there have been reports of Panasonic recordings not taking place. With the new Panasonics I would also want to know if the archiving function enables standard definition and radio programmes to be pulled off so that they can be played on portable devices, though for some use of the TV anywhere app may be a better solution.

In my view £150 was a lot of money for the BT Youview recorder especial compared to a refurbished (i.e. latest software has been pre-installed) nippy freeview+ HD latest model of vestel recently available for a few months for under £40 (Bush B500DTRN and B320DTRN) even though BT Youview has more catch-up available.

I can see how tempting it is to just go out and buy the BT Youview and have done with the decision making. I suggest not giving up by buying a BT Youview for £150 quite yet unless you are prepared to risk that £150.
If you have a working PVR and are after catch-up an alternative temporary solution would be to buy one of the NowTV units. Their basic price is £15 but I haven't seen them recently without being bundled with some introductory package or sports passes which pushes the price up to £25. My understanding is that Sky now make you supply an email address to activate the box and there are the extra cables, but it would be a relatively cheap temporary solution until a clear individual winner was identified between one of the expected freeview play boxes and the BT Youview offerings.

The description on the web site of John Lewis is now going to be corrected.

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I'll say it again,the HD PQ is awesome on the FVP-4000T,and though I agree the guide and UI are poor,I will not put money on the Panny matching it in terms of PQ.

God, I couldn't just base my decision on the PQ, I would want a bit more than that. You must have had something that was pretty poor before buying the Humax.