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Still wary of buying this for my in-laws for Christmas given all the negative reviews around online. I think they'd appreciate being able to acccess iPlayer etc so a 2000T isn't an option and given the questions over the future of Youview I'd be wary of picking up one of those boxes. The Panasonic has the outdated interface and I think they'd occasionally make use of more than two tuners so the 4000T would seem to be the way to go. Just reading all the comments of having to regularly reboot it, recordings or showing up / going missing and it being very sluggish have made me very unsure about buying one for them. They're not that old but I don't want to make their viewing difficult! Am I right to still be wary? Have the most recent upgrades improved matters? They'd be coming from an old Top Up TV recorder so their expectations won't be that high, but it's got to fundamentally work and be reliable! Thanks.
The rebooting is not a major problem, I think mine has done it out of the blue just a couple of times. This can cause the recordings to disappear from the library, however, they are still there on the drive and just need a reboot to get them back, it doesn't happen every time or constantly, by any means. All that said, you have to determine how much any of that would phase your parents. Most of it drives me nuts, but coming from the T2 the 4000T is a bit of a step backward. Coming from an older box, they may not notice the gripes I have. Freeview Play is a pointless waste of time, so don't use that as any sort of choice parameter. |
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coming from the T2 the 4000T is a bit of a step backward.
I would be gutted to have to buy a new model now
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The plus points for the 4000T are the triple tuner and the ability to integrate it with the new H3 streamer. Those issues aside, if stability or ease of use are selection criteria, then a Panasonic FreeviewHD PVR might be a better bet. That said, there's now very little in the way of Freeview PVRs on the market, so your choice is pretty limited. Humax do still offer the older 1800T/2000T boxes, but they don't have the catch-up services, so if that's a requirement you'd need to supplement that with more hardware, something like a NowTV box might suit. I own an 1800T PVR, but it took me three goes to get a working sample. It does do a good job making recordings and sorting-out EPG changes that my Panasonic box didn't deal with, but I frequently get 'broken' recordings, where it reports a loss of signal, and I'm not sure why that is. I suspect that it's intolerant of signal glitches. However, something like an 1800T PVR plus NowTV box would work out cheaper than either the 4000T or the latest Panasonic PVRs.
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...then a Panasonic FreeviewHD PVR might be a better bet. ...my Panasonic box... ...the latest Panasonic PVRs. Clem
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Still wary of buying this for my in-laws for Christmas given all the negative reviews around online. I think they'd appreciate being able to acccess iPlayer etc so a 2000T isn't an option and given the questions over the future of Youview I'd be wary of picking up one of those boxes. The Panasonic has the outdated interface and I think they'd occasionally make use of more than two tuners so the 4000T would seem to be the way to go. Just reading all the comments of having to regularly reboot it, recordings or showing up / going missing and it being very sluggish have made me very unsure about buying one for them. They're not that old but I don't want to make their viewing difficult! Am I right to still be wary? Have the most recent upgrades improved matters? They'd be coming from an old Top Up TV recorder so their expectations won't be that high, but it's got to fundamentally work and be reliable! Thanks.
Are you Rockefeller or someone similar? A bottle of port, a voucher or socks is our usual gift and that's when we're being generous. No wonder folk get into so much debt.
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We had a Humax PVR for many years and were very pleased with it but as it was coming to the end of its natural life we changed it for the 4000T just under 12 months ago when we upgraded our TV.
We have been so disappointed with it! Whilst we appreciate the new technology may have teething troubles this thing seems to have a mind of its own and works whichever way it wants whenever it wants to. We've updated software as required and Humax themselves seem unable to offer any logical explanation as to why it has so many problems. Another software update is promised for the end of November but we now have little faith in Humax. No way would we now recommend the company or this product to others. |
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Buying this for your in-laws for Christmas you say!
Are you Rockefeller or someone similar? A bottle of port, a voucher or socks is our usual gift and that's when we're being generous. No wonder folk get into so much debt.
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It's all relative............Because you struggle to buy a decent present for someone it doesn't follow that someone who can spend more is wrong. £180 is hardly Rockefeller territory, but as I said, it's all relative.....
![]() TBH when you get older there is very little you either want or need. My wife has already asked me what I want. My reply - I have got just about every gadget under the sun, nothing needs replacing, my wardrobe is full of clothes, so nothing is the answer. When I asked her what she wanted - same answer. We are therefore just going out for a meal. There's an article in today's news stating the amount of personal debt for UK citizens - shocking figures. |
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We have been so disappointed with it! Whilst we appreciate the new technology may have teething troubles this thing seems to have a mind of its own and works whichever way it wants whenever it wants to.
Historically Humax have always been EXTREMELY slow with software updates, and their updates generally have caused more problems than they cured - eventually they seem to get things sorted out, but it's usually a case of years rather than months. |
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As a dealer we've stopped stocking the 4000T, it's been FAR too much trouble.
Historically Humax have always been EXTREMELY slow with software updates, and their updates generally have caused more problems than they cured - eventually they seem to get things sorted out, but it's usually a case of years rather than months. |
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TBH when you get older there is very little you either want or need. My wife has already asked me what I want. My reply - I have got just about every gadget under the sun, nothing needs replacing, my wardrobe is full of clothes, so nothing is the answer.
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If ever I to the moment shall say: IOW, once you have all you want or need, it's time for you to shuffle off.
Beautiful moment, do not pass away! Then you may forge your chains to bind me, Then I will put my life behind me, Then let them hear my death-knell toll, Then from your labours you'll be free, The clock may stop, the clock-hands fall, And time come to an end for me! |
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IOW, once you have all you want or need, it's time for you to shuffle off.
However, I enjoy my life far too much, so sorry Mrs May. I feel you are equating life's enjoyment to material possessions. Finding pleasure in nature and the spiritual side of life is far more rewarding to the transient pleasure of buying things.
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There is always and will always be more tech to buy............
![]() What else would you be doing with your money? There are no pockets in shrouds.....
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As a dealer we've stopped stocking the 4000T, it's been FAR too much trouble.
Historically Humax have always been EXTREMELY slow with software updates, and their updates generally have caused more problems than they cured - eventually they seem to get things sorted out, but it's usually a case of years rather than months. I'd have thought that with all the negative experiences that can be found on the web, they would speed up the improvements on this. That said, I think that they'll muck about for another 6 months or so and then announce something new.....and let the 4000T fade into the sunset...This is certainly a pig in poke |
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Buying this for your in-laws for Christmas you say!
Are you Rockefeller or someone similar? A bottle of port, a voucher or socks is our usual gift and that's when we're being generous. No wonder folk get into so much debt.Thanks to those who've explained their experiences, I'm in as much of a dilemma as when I started about which recorder to get them (if that's the present we decide to go for). |
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You don't need to justify your spending. It has nothing to do with anyone else.
Good luck with your choice and despite my (personal) moans about the 4000T, it may suit your parents needs with the 3 tuners (which is a big plus). As I said previously, coming from an old PVR they may not have the same issues with the box...My Brother in law has one and loves it as it's his first one.. If you buy from somewhere like Argos, returning it is a breeze should it not work out....
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I have the Humax FVP4000T 2TB version and find it far exceeds my expectations in everything it does. The interface is quite good when you get used to it - could be quicker I suppose but not really a problem.
Catch-up, series recording streaming and downloading SD content all faultless - personally think this is a great piece of kit for the money. I especially like the App which allows streaming/downloading to anywhere within range of my WiFi to any device. |
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I have the Humax FVP4000T 2TB version and find it far exceeds my expectations in everything it does.
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I have the Humax FVP4000T 2TB version and find it far exceeds my expectations in everything it does. The interface is quite good when you get used to it - could be quicker I suppose but not really a problem.
Catch-up, series recording streaming and downloading SD content all faultless - personally think this is a great piece of kit for the money. I especially like the App which allows streaming/downloading to anywhere within range of my WiFi to any device. |
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Count me a happy customer too. Since the failure to reboot whilst recording glitch has been sorted I've had no difficulty with mine at all. Don't do anything fancy with streaming or android etc., and the EPG could be faster to load and search through, but very pleased with it as the main family box.
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Are you Rockefeller or someone similar? A bottle of port, a voucher or socks is our usual gift and that's when we're being generous. No wonder folk get into so much debt.
