i don't see new zealand v namibia grabbing much attention
especially if new zealand are way ahead by half time [the odds suggest that they will be]

Celebrity Big Brother's grand finale may have been affected by the live rugby on Thursday, as it was down by around 500,000 viewers from last year's series.

The overnight average audience for James Hill's victory was 1.65 million (9.0%), which is also down by around 900k from January's series. Later, Bit on the Side entertained 507k (6.3%) at 10.45pm, while Dogs Make You Laugh Out Loud amused 801k (4.2%) at 8pm.

From: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s150/...last-year.html

I don't know why "Dogs Make You Laugh Out Loud" is in the same paragraph.

Disappointing final ratings.

It got 1.74m incl +1. Exactly the same as the double two days before. Bit disappointed it didn't match or top the 1.83m of Jarrah's return.

But it's not awful. Decent share and it peaked with 2m as the winner was revealed.

When looking at a drop.. 2.22m to 1.74m is not a catastrophic drop from launch to final. It's not great, but not terrible. Officially, that rating should be in the 2.1m region.

I think officially, the series should average in the 1.9m region. 200k down on last summer.

are these ratings on a par with the civilian version ?

Higher.

BB16 final overnights- 1.28m
CBB16 final overnights- 1.74m

BB16 official average= 1.36m
CBB16 official average looks set to be ~1.9m

So around half a million up. Officially it will be around 200k down on last summer's 2.1m.

Thus replacing last summer's CBB as the lowest rated ever.


CBB always seems to have more viewers than non-celeb BB, even back into the C4 period.
But the non-celeb BB does more overall for the channel, because it's on for much longer.

Also, the summer CBBs do much worse than the winter ones.

Yeah, it will be the lowest rated, a feat that should be shared by CBB8 and CBB11 in my opinion.

Makes me think, what will CBB17 rate? They'd need to get a ratings puller for launch. I can't see it surpassing 3m official like CBB13 and CBB15. It will probably be in the low 2s overnight and mid 2s officially like CBB9?

But tbh we thought CBB15 would be down after CBB14 was the lowest ever, but CBB15 was 1m up.

Why CBBs 8 and 11? At first, I thought it was because they were the lowest rated winter CBBs, but they aren't. Did you mean 9 and 11? But then 9 was lower than 11, so only one of them -- 9 -- would share the lowest-ever feat. So I remain a bit on this point.


I suppose that showed that lower summer ratings didn't mean lower winter ones too, but the 1m comes from putting the winter and summer CBBs together. CBB15 wasn't anything like 1m up on the previous winter CBB. Instead, it had essentially the same number of viewers.

Re the next CBB, CBB 17, I wonder if one reason BB picked such obnoxious Americans for the CBB that just ended was because the CBB with Perez in it had done so well. If so, the low ratings should put an end to that tactic. Should, but probably won't.

Janice Dickinson's failure to be a hit should discredit the idea that fan favourites should be picked. CBB did much better with Katie Hopkins even though it seemed that almost every BB fan wanted her kept well away from the show.

The low ratings for Gary Busey's CBB shows that having a big American star (big at least by CBB standards) doesn't do the trick.

Anyway, my current view is that CBBs 13 and 15 did so well because Jim Davidson and Katie Hopkins brought in viewers who wouldn't normally have watched. It's hard to think of anyone else who'd have the same effect.

So unless they get lucky with a housemate choice, I think the ratings will probably be like those for CBBs 9 and 11: 2.6 - 2.8 million.


But I'd like to see C5 and Endemol take a much more relaxed approach to it all and stop trying to pack the house with obnoxious housemates, stop forcing "drama" with tasks and twists and face-to-face nominations, and instead just try to pick a good mix of housemates and give them challenging tasks. (After all, that's basically what "I'm a Celebrity" does, and it's remained successful in a way that CBB hasn't.)

Even low ratings compared to other CBBs are good ratings for C5, so I don't think they need to be so frantic about forcing "drama". A more relaxed approach might even gain viewers for the show.

No, I do mean CBB8 and CBB11. They deserve to be lower than ALL CBB series because in my opinion, they were poor. CBB8 was like C5 had no idea whether they wanted BB or not, it was a bit of a quarter arsed job, not even half arsed, it was half that! And CBB11 because it was literally Speidi VS everyone, I supported them because I thought the others bar Rylan were so vanilla and dull. We got the worst bunch of Hms, and they all happened to be in the same series (Frankie, Gillian, Claire, Tricia, Sam, Ryan, Razor). So if you were neither a fan of the dullards OR Speidi, then there was nothing to enjoy in the slightest at all.

So we had the big puller in CBB13 and CBB15, so I'm trying to think who would be that puller in CBB17. I cant think of anyone at the top of my head at all. I don't even know any US or UK person that would be willing to do CBB who would be the "Oh wow, this person is on BB"

Ah! I see now about CBBs 8 and 11. You think they should have had record low ratings because they were so poor. Thanks for explaining.

Like you, I can't think of a big ratings-puller they could have as a HM (and who'd want to be a HM). They've already used Janice who'd seemed she might be a big draw. They've used Katie Price.

Officials with +1. Saturdays does not have it's +1 available. Brackets were the overnights

Monday 14th- 2.28m (1.83m)
Tuesday 15th- 1.99m (1.65m)
Weds 16th- 2.01m (1.63m)
Thurs 17th- 2.02m (1.60m)
Friday 18th- 1.77m (1.30m) *against opening ceremony/rugby match
Sat 19th- 1.24m (820,000)
Sun 20th- 1.68m (1.25m)

Week average- 1.86m.

The weekend damaged the show quite a bit.

With only 4 days of officials left to go is 1.88m.

The 4 shows remaining shows will have it stay in the 1.9m area. So it is pretty clear this series is averaging 1.9m. With the double eviction and final getting 1.74m overnights, that should be at least 2.1m, so it shouldn't be going under 1.9m (1.84m or under).

We have the final 4 officials of the series! All include +1

Monday 21st- 1.86m
Tuesday 22nd- 2.08m
Weds 23rd- 1.73m
Thursday 24th (FINAL)- 2.05m

Odd just like CBB15, the final being lower than a couple of days before.

The official series average of CBB16 is 1.88m. Rounded to 1.9m. Same as BB14, 200k down on last summer.

let's hope january is more of a success, i think it will average 2.6-2.8...