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Old 03-08-2015, 08:45
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http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/disgusting-emmerdale-writers-slammed-clutha-6184111

There is a petition to have the episode pulled.

Have they gone to far, I think it's a little soon for this story line, makes the writers look very bad imo.

Still a little raw for some folk I'd say! The helicopter crash was not all that long ago.

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Old 03-08-2015, 09:07
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So what about films showing helicopters crashing ? Should they be pulled too ?

ITV/Emmerdale aren't going to pull the episode(s) and not show the crash now its been filmed, the onlyvreason they would pull it at such a late stage would be if there was a major helicopter crash in the next 30 or so hours
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Old 03-08-2015, 09:11
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Should 'Towering Inferno' never be shown again, should we ban film makers making disaster movies as it could be too raw for people who have gone through similar disasters, the answer is no. People have a choice whether to watch or not.
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Old 03-08-2015, 09:16
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I dont think it should be pulled either but I do think it's a bit soon to have a soap scene with a helicopter crashing through s roof when it happened not log ago and 10 people died. I can understand why some people think they should have left this story a while longer.
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Old 03-08-2015, 09:26
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Bad things happen in real life. Soaps have to reflect that. It's not like that crash happened a few weeks ago, or in the last few days. Soaps won't be able to do anything exciting if people keep complaining and starting petitions to stop them happening. If your that offended then don't watch it.
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Old 03-08-2015, 09:32
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Unfortunately tragedies are happening all the time....but I think most people can distinguish fact from fiction....and if it is upsetting for people then they do not have to watch.....
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Old 03-08-2015, 09:36
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I agree and don't think it should be pulled, as you say if it was a few weeks ago then yes pull it. I also can't wait to see what emmerdale have in store this week. But when I heard about the helicopter going through the roof I did feel it was a bit soon for the writers to write something so similar to this accident and did expect people to be a bit angry about it but The petition is going to far.
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Old 03-08-2015, 09:38
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If TV stopped showing something in case it affected somebody who'd been through what they were showing, you'd be watching a blank screen. Televisions come with a little invention called an off button which quickly and easily prevents someone from having to watch something without spoiling other people's enjoyment. I'm sure if those complaining can work out how to get online to sign a petition, they can work out how to walk over and press this button on their TV.
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Old 03-08-2015, 09:39
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If we were to pull everything that reflected something in real life there would be very little to watch. People who don't want to watch simply don't need to switch on. They have a choice. Of course the episodes should be shown and I think there would be a lot more people annoyed if the episode was pulled.
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Old 03-08-2015, 09:44
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Oh dear
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Old 03-08-2015, 09:46
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what about fires? Fires in real life are more common then helicopter crashes. When Corrie broadcasted there useless fire why didn't people want the episodes pulled don't people die in fires aswell or is it just me. that helicopter crash happened nearly 2 years ago time to move on even the families of the victims moved on Just build a bridge and get over it.

NO NEED TO BE BRINGING UP THE PAST WHATEVER HAPPENED IN THE PAST STAYS IN THE PAST.
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Old 03-08-2015, 10:35
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They haven't gone too far. I've been in 4 helicopter crashes this week, and I'm not fazed by it.
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Old 03-08-2015, 10:42
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I guess people don't actually realise how much the team have worked on these episodes.,I bet it's annoying for them when people tell them they should not show the episodes.
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Old 03-08-2015, 10:42
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They had the same problems after the plane crash. People were saying it was too close to the Lockerbie plane disaster both in timing(it was 5 years after but still fresh in people's minds) and potrayal. There would be uproar (and rightly so) if they had two planes fly into some office blocks.

I think sometimes shows need to show a bit of sensitivity in their quest to chase ratings, the Clutha bar tragedy was only 2 years ago after all. Poor judgement on the part of Emmerdale.
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Old 03-08-2015, 11:22
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They had the same problems after the plane crash. People were saying it was too close to the Lockerbie plane disaster both in timing(it was 5 years after but still fresh in people's minds) and potrayal. There would be uproar (and rightly so) if they had two planes fly into some office blocks.

I think sometimes shows need to show a bit of sensitivity in their quest to chase ratings, the Clutha bar tragedy was only 2 years ago after all. Poor judgement on the part of Emmerdale.
How long should they leave it for then? 10 years? 20? 50? What about fires, car crashes, train crashes or even illness? Should soaps not show them either in case it offends somebody whose been through it? Where do you draw the line? Some people just complain for the sheer hell of it no matter what, some go out of their way to be offended just to give them something to whinge about. Is there anything some people don't find offensive? I bet some even find other people breathing offensive!
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Old 03-08-2015, 11:30
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I think that this is one of the reasons that ED released the spoiler about the crash. I know when I first read about it I thought that they should have kept it quiet (to the point of not releasing promo DVDs to the press) and had it all as one big OMG moment on Tuesday. But having thought about it at least this gives people the chance not to watch if they feel it will be too emotional for them.
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Old 03-08-2015, 11:32
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I don't think it how long they should leave it but that they should change it up a bit and not make it look like they have copied it right from the headlines. People die every day but it's the big stories, headlines that the writers should be more tacktfull with, like someone said they would not crash 2 planes into a high rise buildings in a soap but as long as long as the writers mix it up a bit people are not so upset by stuff.
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Old 03-08-2015, 11:37
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The PC Brigade are back out again i see.

Wonder if people complained when they had the Plane Crash, only years after Lockerbie
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Old 03-08-2015, 11:42
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The PC Brigade are back out again i see.

Wonder if people complained when they had the Plane Crash, only years after Lockerbie
They did yes
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Old 03-08-2015, 11:58
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How long should they leave it for then? 10 years? 20? 50? What about fires, car crashes, train crashes or even illness? Should soaps not show them either in case it offends somebody whose been through it? Where do you draw the line? Some people just complain for the sheer hell of it no matter what, some go out of their way to be offended just to give them something to whinge about. Is there anything some people don't find offensive? I bet some even find other people breathing offensive!
Yes.

Whilst not wishing to sound insensitive to the pain of those involved with such dreadful tragedies as Lockerbie or Cluha, if they have been, 6 weeks, 6 years, 60 years is unlikely to make a difference. It was always be painful to them, tv depictions of such events will always hurt and probably best avoided.

Anything showing a child going missing will always hurt the McCanns but does that mean 'The Missing' shouldn't have been made?

I found watching people dying from Cancer hard after losing close family members to it, especially when the suggestion is that the only kind way to deal with is is mercy killing and if you really loved your relative you would. Likewise, although nobody died (thank god) there has veeb a serious fire at my house when I was 21. Such topics will orobably always be sensitive to me but i don't expect them never to feature in drama.

Somebody mentioned that we'd never see a plane crash into towers again. Maybe not the exact scenario but we have seen very similar. I saw a film recently (can't remember what it was called now) about earthquakes where helicopters and planes were crashing into buildings causing explosions. Nearly every science fiction fil made will feature a landmark building being destroyed to show how terrible the threat is.

When something is extremely recent and in the public mind it is probably sensible and sensitive to with hold showing such things. If, god forbid, a helicopter should crash in the next couple of days they would need to pull it, no matter what problems it would cause. But not when it was 18 months ago.
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Old 03-08-2015, 12:04
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I think that this is one of the reasons that ED released the spoiler about the crash. I know when I first read about it I thought that they should have kept it quiet (to the point of not releasing promo DVDs to the press) and had it all as one big OMG moment on Tuesday. But having thought about it at least this gives people the chance not to watch if they feel it will be too emotional for them.
Yes i agree and think it is why they did it too.
I think they would have much more cause to complain if they had just been watching Emmerdale as normal and suddenly been presented with it, causing bad memories to come flooding back, maybe even triggering some kind of Post Traumatic issue.
At least this way they will probably have heard about it so know not to watch. Even if they haven't seen the spoilers themselves, a friend of relative probably will do so can warn them.

Despite huge secrecy about the Lovedays and them seeming to want to keep things quiet about the plots they released the spoiler that they'd had a child go missing years before a couple of weeks before the episodes aired. Again, i suspect this was so anybody that has been through the same thing, most famously of course the McCanns would know not to watch.
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Old 03-08-2015, 12:24
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Helicopter crashes aren't an everyday occurrence in this country, at least certainly not ones of this nature with it crashing into a building populated by people and killing several, this isn't about a soap shining a light on a difficult issue. It's a soap using a real life tragedy to chase ratings. Yes it's crass and it's insensitive especially as the cause of the Clutha disaster has yet to be established meaning survivors and family members of those who perished are still struggling to find closure. The opinions of those people do matter, they are not "the pc brigade" they are traumatised survivors and grieving relatives and as long as Emmerdale consulted with them and gave them fare warning that they intended to do this storyline I see no issue with it going ahead.
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Old 03-08-2015, 12:26
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Should 'Towering Inferno' never be shown again, should we ban film makers making disaster movies as it could be too raw for people who have gone through similar disasters, the answer is no. People have a choice whether to watch or not.
This. Honestly these people sound like the people who want everything to be like kids TV and be all happy sunshine and rainbows.
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Old 03-08-2015, 12:31
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The only time I can remember filmed episodes of a soap having their schedule changed due to a real life tragic event was in 2010 when the episodes of the Underworld Siege on CS were delayed a week in transmission due to events in Cumbria. That happened on the day of transmission.

I personally cannot see Emmerdale pulling these episodes from transmission, no matter how many people sign the petition, not after all the work they have put into this and the promotion it has got. Surly the writers and producer will have already anticipated comparison to this real life tragedy. The Plane Crash SL got criticism and comparison to the Lockerbie tragedy and there is even a clip on Youtube of Eamon Holmes airing his concerns.
https://youtu.be/CqbpheaF80s?t=4m27s
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Old 03-08-2015, 12:38
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Helicopter crashes aren't an everyday occurrence in this country, at least certainly not ones of this nature with it crashing into a building populated by people and killing several, this isn't about a soap shining a light on a difficult issue. It's a soap using a real life tragedy to chase ratings. Yes it's crass and it's insensitive especially as the cause of the Clutha disaster has yet to be established meaning survivors and family members of those who perished are still struggling to find closure. The opinions of those people do matter, they are not "the pc brigade" they are traumatised survivors and grieving relatives and as long as Emmerdale consulted with them and gave them fare warning that they intended to do this storyline I see no issue with it going ahead.
I do agree with you. Helicopter crashes in civillian situations are not everyday events, unlike sadly car crashes, rapes, death from Cancer so will not have directly affected most of the population in that way.

People that have been directly affected are not being 'PC' if they get upset and their feelings and welfare do deserve consideration and sensitivity.

However, i think posters are probably assuming that most of the people that are kicking up a fuss will not be directly involved and are getting upset and affronted on their behalf without actually knowing their feelings.

Some of the people may be genuinely concerned but there are also some people that just love seeing a problem, taking offence for others and if they had their way, nothing would end up on screen.
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