[emails]

i got a question on this i have brought a dvd with a single programme on it ,which i beleave has a copyright thing on it? but want to be able to put the data on another disc but it wont let me,is it possible to overide this? but i will make it clear this is not copyright theft as the perchased dvd is staying in my hands just choose to put it on another disc maby to save shelf space. thanks

[Maxatoria]

Technically yes, legally bypassing copy protection is rather naughty

Not bothered doing it for ages but i'd imagine handbrake and quite a few other tools have the ability to remove the CSS.

[emails]

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Originally Posted by Maxatoria

Technically yes, legally bypassing copy protection is rather naughty

Not bothered doing it for ages but i'd imagine handbrake and quite a few other tools have the ability to remove the CSS.

ok it probably sounds it,but my intentions are not bad,as in the copyrighted dvd will NOT be sold off i'll just keep hold of it , the alternative here is to just keep the dvd inside the other usable disc case & store the brought case somewhere like the loft? i think i might get some indipendant adivce on this?

[chrisjr]

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Originally Posted by emails

ok it probably sounds it,but my intentions are not bad,as in the copyrighted dvd will NOT be sold off i'll just keep hold of it , the alternative here is to just keep the dvd inside the other usable disc case & store the brought case somewhere like the loft? i think i might get some indipendant adivce on this?

The law on copying DVDs and CDs for home use (eg to rip a CD to an mp3 player) was recently revised to make this use legal. However if the source disk had copy protection it was still illegal to bypass that protection.

[oilman]

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Originally Posted by emails

ok it probably sounds it,but my intentions are not bad,as in the copyrighted dvd will NOT be sold off i'll just keep hold of it , the alternative here is to just keep the dvd inside the other usable disc case & store the brought case somewhere like the loft? i think i might get some indipendant adivce on this?

Any independent advice will merely tell you what you know i.e. its illegal. Its like asking a policeman if it is ok to break the speed limit. He will never (publically) say yes, but he might admit they do not prosecute if less than x% over.

Apart from the legal/moral issues, it is definitely against forum rules to encourage illegal activities, even if we believed the risk if prosecution was extremely low. Whilst most people who participate in this sub-forum love to help, this topic is really a no go area, I'm afraid.

[darkjedimaster]

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisjr

The law on copying DVDs and CDs for home use (eg to rip a CD to an mp3 player) was recently revised to make this use legal. However if the source disk had copy protection it was still illegal to bypass that protection.

And it was changed again & made illegal, tho the law itself is an arse and most people ignore.

http://www.itv.com/news/2015-07-17/c...illegal-again/

I know personally, I will rip or obtain rips of every DVD / CD / Blu-ray that I purchase, so that I can watch it on any of my devices. I refuse to buy the item again in a different format.

[peteques]

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkjedimaster

I know personally, I will rip or obtain rips of every DVD / CD / Blu-ray that I purchase, so that I can watch it on any of my devices. I refuse to buy the item again in a different format.

Hi darkjedimaster - I agree - but how do you do it?

[darkjedimaster]

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Originally Posted by peteques

Hi darkjedimaster - I agree - but how do you do it?

When I make my own rips I use DVDFab to rip & encode, but there are many different programs out there that will do the same thing, a quick google will show the best applications to use. However if I am feeling lazy and just want to get the rip as quickly as possibly without the ballache of ripping and encoding, then I will just visit the usual suspects & just hit n run.

[emails]

Quote:

Originally Posted by oilman

Any independent advice will merely tell you what you know i.e. its illegal. Its like asking a policeman if it is ok to break the speed limit. He will never (publically) say yes, but he might admit they do not prosecute if less than x% over.

Apart from the legal/moral issues, it is definitely against forum rules to encourage illegal activities, even if we believed the risk if prosecution was extremely low. Whilst most people who participate in this sub-forum love to help, this topic is really a no go area, I'm afraid.

& on that note i will then close this case.copyright for me is a bad word,wheather breaking the law or not .

[Bill Clinton]

After following this guide I am now happily ripping DVD's from Handbrake.
Handbrake doesn't do it without the help of one extra file which you can download called

libdvdcss-2.dll,
(you need to follow the link below a download link for this is in the help article)

When that file is placed in the Handbrake folder (usually C:/Program Files/Handbrake/ it then gains the ability to rip CSS protected DVD;s (ie most DVD's out there!) You select Source and the DVD drive and the titles load up, and you can rip them to MP4 or MKV files. I use an extra special code to make the compression more efficient that I found via the internet;

Under the Video tab in "Extra Options" paste this there

ref=4:weightp=1:subme=6:rc-lookahead=10:t*rellis=0:8x8dct=0:bframes=2:level=4.0:mixed-refs=0:trellis=0:vbv-bufsize=25000:vbv-maxrate=20000:b-adapt=2:direct=auto:me=umh

then set the quality to 20 or 21, and you should have some nice looking conversions.

Guide here, it's really easy
http://www.lifehacker.co.uk/2014/02/21/rip-dvd-computer

One thing to watch out for!
One further note if you are on Windows 7 and have installed Handbrake into C:/Program Files (x86) then libdvdcss-2.dll won't work, this is because of some Windows permissions thing in the folder, I found that to my cost when I had some file recovery software try to put something straight into the folder and I didn't realise why the files weren't recovering and saving (it is because of the restricted folder!), also Winamp wouldn't use my Sound Solution presets and various plug-ins in this folder either, so if you have installed Handbrake there already you need to uninstall Handbrake and choose C:/Program Files/Handbrake (without the X86) for it to work.

The only thing with me is I have so many DVDs yet to do it'll take ages, and I'm doing them again because this is doing a better job than ImToo DVD Ripper.

[emails]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Clinton

After following this guide I am now happily ripping DVD's from Handbrake.
Handbrake doesn't do it without the help of one extra file which you can download called

libdvdcss-2.dll,
(you need to follow the link below a download link for this is in the help article)

When that file is placed in the Handbrake folder (usually C:/Program Files/Handbrake/ it then gains the ability to rip CSS protected DVD;s (ie most DVD's out there!) You select Source and the DVD drive and the titles load up, and you can rip them to MP4 or MKV files. I use an extra special code to make the compression more efficient that I found via the internet;

Under the Video tab in "Extra Options" paste this there

ref=4:weightp=1:subme=6:rc-lookahead=10:t*rellis=0:8x8dct=0:bframes=2:level=4.0:mixed-refs=0:trellis=0:vbv-bufsize=25000:vbv-maxrate=20000:b-adapt=2:direct=auto:me=umh

then set the quality to 20 or 21, and you should have some nice looking conversions.

Guide here, it's really easy
http://www.lifehacker.co.uk/2014/02/21/rip-dvd-computer

One thing to watch out for!
One further note if you are on Windows 7 and have installed Handbrake into C:/Program Files (x86) then libdvdcss-2.dll won't work, this is because of some Windows permissions thing in the folder, I found that to my cost when I had some file recovery software try to put something straight into the folder and I didn't realise why the files weren't recovering and saving (it is because of the restricted folder!), also Winamp wouldn't use my Sound Solution presets and various plug-ins in this folder either, so if you have installed Handbrake there already you need to uninstall Handbrake and choose C:/Program Files/Handbrake (without the X86) for it to work.

The only thing with me is I have so many DVDs yet to do it'll take ages, and I'm doing them again because this is doing a better job than ImToo DVD Ripper.

this does sound very risky ,& IF i did ever aproach this option i would be very concerned about virouses with the software being used? for the time being at least i'll probably use the option of putting the bought CRd in the same folder as the copyed discs ,copied as in tv to disc programmes

[peteques]

Thx jedimaster - is dvdfab free?

[Lumstorm]

Quote:

Originally Posted by emails

this does sound very risky ,& IF i did ever aproach this option i would be very concerned about virouses with the software being used? for the time being at least i'll probably use the option of putting the bought CRd in the same folder as the copyed discs ,copied as in tv to disc programmes

I wouldn't worry the software for ripping discs is well known and trusted Handrake conversion software and the VLC player which will decrypt for Handbrake.

On a side note I'am trying to work out the best way of ripping the soundtrack from Blu-ray to put onto a media player, I have concerts that are only available on BD and would like to listen to them without my BD player.

[zx50]

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkjedimaster

And it was changed again & made illegal, tho the law itself is an arse and most people ignore.

http://www.itv.com/news/2015-07-17/c...illegal-again/

I know personally, I will rip or obtain rips of every DVD / CD / Blu-ray that I purchase, so that I can watch it on any of my devices. I refuse to buy the item again in a different format.

When it comes to copying DVDs/audio CDs for your own use, I totally agree. I'm putting my DVD collection on my 4TB HDD in MPEG-4 and if the companies who make the content that's on them don't like this, bloody well tough!

[Sambda]

Quote:

Originally Posted by zx50

When it comes to copying DVDs/audio CDs for your own use, I totally agree. I'm putting my DVD collection on my 4TB HDD in MPEG-4 and if the companies who make the content that's on them don't like this, bloody well tough!

Indeed. AFAIK no-one has ever been prosecuted for ripping DVDs for their own use (format shifting or the like).

[darkjedimaster]

Quote:

Originally Posted by peteques

Thx jedimaster - is dvdfab free?

No it is currently subscription based, but there are ways around that

[emails]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumstorm

I wouldn't worry the software for ripping discs is well known and trusted Handrake conversion software and the VLC player which will decrypt for Handbrake.

On a side note I'am trying to work out the best way of ripping the soundtrack from Blu-ray to put onto a media player, I have concerts that are only available on BD and would like to listen to them without my BD player.

well i may look at handbreak at a later date ,should i need it ,which earlyer in my thread was going to concider it ,but backing off it for now

[Bill Clinton]

Quote:

Originally Posted by emails

this does sound very risky ,& IF i did ever aproach this option i would be very concerned about virouses with the software being used? for the time being at least i'll probably use the option of putting the bought CRd in the same folder as the copyed discs ,copied as in tv to disc programmes

You are not going to get a virus from Handbrake if you download it from the official site! - https://handbrake.fr/

Just go ahead and do it.

[Bill Clinton]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sambda

Indeed. AFAIK no-one has ever been prosecuted for ripping DVDs for their own use (format shifting or the like).

Because they're not going to go around everybody's house checking the computers for their file contents, plus when ripping from DVD's/Blu-Rays you have usually bought them yourself and are transferring them to you portable hard drives etc so they are getting your revenue there, if you simply torrent shows you don't need to do any converting yourself but they are also not getting paid, so they shouldn't be too tough on this. Even if some DVDs have been lended/rented etc how many titles can you actually get that way, in the end you have to buy what you're interested in, especially for rarer series. It would be madness to clamp down on ripping as it provides less incentive to buy DVDs!

[emails]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Clinton

You are not going to get a virus from Handbrake if you download it from the official site! - https://handbrake.fr/

Just go ahead and do it.

i will keep that one in mind thanks for the link

[zx50]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumstorm

I wouldn't worry the software for ripping discs is well known and trusted Handrake conversion software and the VLC player which will decrypt for Handbrake.

On a side note I'am trying to work out the best way of ripping the soundtrack from Blu-ray to put onto a media player, I have concerts that are only available on BD and would like to listen to them without my BD player.

I tried that once but failed. It's far easier to just use DVDFab to get the film etc onto the HDD and then use HandBrake for the conversion.

[zx50]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Clinton

Because they're not going to go around everybody's house checking the computers for their file contents, plus when ripping from DVD's/Blu-Rays you have usually bought them yourself and are transferring them to you portable hard drives etc so they are getting your revenue there, if you simply torrent shows you don't need to do any converting yourself but they are also not getting paid, so they shouldn't be too tough on this. Even if some DVDs have been lended/rented etc how many titles can you actually get that way, in the end you have to buy what you're interested in, especially for rarer series. It would be madness to clamp down on ripping as it provides less incentive to buy DVDs!

Yep! I think a lot will be putting their DVDs/Blu-Rays on their computers these days (in H.264/5) because of not having to see warnings and other junk before the main feature.

[spiney2]

easiest is dvd fab, latest version. you criminal, you .......... there's a limited number of shrinks allowed without full paid version - which auto fits onto a standard size burnable dvd, if original is bigger - but it still allows copying. u can make a copy playable in standard dvd player, or mp4 version which is smaller file of course.