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Steve McFadden was trembling with the exertion. His jowls were wobbling. I'm sorry but I don't believe for a minute that Phil would be able to batter Vincent like that! I'm really peed off with this. Yes there are older men (ie Terry Adams) who can still strike terror into people but I don't buy Phil Mitchell beating up Vincent who clearly works out and is a criminal himself so should be able to fight. OK Phil works in the garage but so has Jay worked there and he's got no muscle at all! What with little Bobby killing someone with a wooden jewellery box and the never ending Big Bad Phil saga I just despair with EE!
Maybe one day Sharon will hit Phil over the head with a frying pan / rolling pin while he is asleep and will finally, finally kill him off! I would love someone to finish Phil Mitchell off once and for all! Imagine if IAN does the deed after years of Phil bullying him! OK they get on better now but I'm past caring who kills Mitchell so long as someone does! Even Billy! |
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I thought it was hilarious..
The working class folk loved seeing "classic thug phil mitchell" back !! http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/e...c-phil-6188632 |
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Steve McFadden was trembling with the exertion. His jowls were wobbling. I'm sorry but I don't believe for a minute that Phil would be able to batter Vincent like that! I'm really peed off with this. Yes there are older men (ie Terry Adams) who can still strike terror into people but I don't buy Phil Mitchell beating up Vincent who clearly works out and is a criminal himself so should be able to fight. OK Phil works in the garage but so has Jay worked there and he's got no muscle at all! What with little Bobby killing someone with a wooden jewellery box and the never ending Big Bad Phil saga I just despair with EE!
Maybe one day Sharon will hit Phil over the head with a frying pan / rolling pin while he is asleep and will finally, finally kill him off! I would love someone to finish Phil Mitchell off once and for all! Imagine if IAN does the deed after years of Phil bullying him! OK they get on better now but I'm past caring who kills Mitchell so long as someone does! Even Billy! |
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Did anyone get a feeling that when Buster was looking through the door that they may team up, it's like he gave Phil the go ahead "go on beat him hard I won't say anything*.
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I thought it was hilarious..
The working class folk loved seeing "classic thug phil mitchell" back !! http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/e...c-phil-6188632 |
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I thought it was hilarious..
The working class folk loved seeing "classic thug phil mitchell" back !! http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/e...c-phil-6188632 |
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To be honest it wasn't that unrealistic the way Phil beat up Vincent as after all Vincent was not expecting Phil to punch him so it is not too unrealistic that Vincent fell to the floor as after all Phil has a long history of violence and he use to be a boxer in his younger days so he should know how to pack a punch. Granted Phil is not the fighter he once was but just because he is in his 50's it doesn't mean that he has lost all his fighting abilities. Once Phil had Vincent on the floor he clearly had the upper hand and Vincent no doubt would of been dazed and shocked so it is not that unlikely that on this occasion he couldn't fight back and Phil continued to attack him.
It would of been unrealistic if Phil had beaten up Vincent in a straight one on one fight were the sucker punch wasn't used as Vincent is clearly younger and fitter than Phil and could easily beat Phil nowadays as shown in there previous fight in the Car Lot as Phil punch on that occasion had little impact on Vincent and he easily blocked it and got the better of Phil on that occasion. People saying Phil wouldn't use violence against Vincent after the first fight are forgetting that violence is the only way Phil knows how to deal with situations, he has used violence most of his life to get out of situations so it would be out of character for him to change the habit of a lifetime. Phil although it could be argued was cowardly in there second fight was actually more cunning than he was on the first occasion he had a fight against Vincent from his point of view. Phil didn't make the same mistake twice as he knew the sucker punch was the only way he could now realistically beat Vincent. It will be interesting to see how the next fight between these two turns out and what Vincent has in store as this feud is just beginning. |
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Phil took Vincent by suprise, and then kicked him when he fell, any other time Vincent would of killed Phil lol, oh and Phil isnt fat.
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Phil took Vincent by suprise, and then kicked him when he fell, any other time Vincent would of killed Phil lol, oh and Phil isnt fat.
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Phil isn't fat, but he is a big guy and a punch from him would carry a lot of weight behind it. Also, he caught Vincent off guard so was bound to hit him to the ground.
Just because Phil is over 50 doesn't mean he is physically incapable of punching someone ![]() ![]() HOWEVER! It's not just that Phil is over 50, but he doesn't exercise, doesn't eat well, is an alcoholic, a former drug addict, posters are saying he's not fat, ok, though he's not slim and toned is he! Plus he's very short, and Vincent is taller than him. Plus the fact that Vincent is meant to be a bit of a villian, a fighter etc, younger obviously than Phil, yet once again the producers see fit to make sure that no man exists on the square that'll ever beat the great Phil Mitchell! ![]()
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Phil beating up Vincent was not realistic come on this guy is old, fat and Vincent is the young cat on the scene who could of had Phil. I dont understand why the producers have done this
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I agree with you regards to Phil being over 50, has no relevance on whether he can punch, fight etc, considering how much younger we're all getting these days....
![]() HOWEVER! It's not just that Phil is over 50, but he doesn't exercise, doesn't eat well, is an alcoholic, a former drug addict, posters are saying he's not fat, ok, though he's not slim and toned is he! Plus he's very short, and Vincent is taller than him. Plus the fact that Vincent is meant to be a bit of a villian, a fighter etc, younger obviously than Phil, yet once again the producers see fit to make sure that no man exists on the square that'll ever beat the great Phil Mitchell! ![]() ![]() |
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I thought it was fine - especially the way they showed how much it had taken out of Phil. He's not the young hard man anymore and showing him out of breath and physically drained after was making that clear. He caught Vincent by surprise - that was another important thing. Also, I've always got the impression that Vincent has often had others to do a lot of his dirty work for him - and hasn't generally been the one going around dishing out the violence - where Phil was always happy to do his own fighting. That could be a small factor.
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I agree with you regards to Phil being over 50, has no relevance on whether he can punch, fight etc, considering how much younger we're all getting these days....
![]() HOWEVER! It's not just that Phil is over 50, but he doesn't exercise, doesn't eat well, is an alcoholic, a former drug addict, posters are saying he's not fat, ok, though he's not slim and toned is he! Plus he's very short, and Vincent is taller than him. Plus the fact that Vincent is meant to be a bit of a villian, a fighter etc, younger obviously than Phil, yet once again the producers see fit to make sure that no man exists on the square that'll ever beat the great Phil Mitchell! ![]() ![]() |
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I thought it was fine - especially the way they showed how much it had taken out of Phil. He's not the young hard man anymore and showing him out of breath and physically drained after was making that clear. He caught Vincent by surprise - that was another important thing. Also, I've always got the impression that Vincent has often had others to do a lot of his dirty work for him - and hasn't generally been the one going around dishing out the violence - where Phil was always happy to do his own fighting. That could be a small factor.
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I actually thought the guy playing Vincent was late 20's or early 30's. Didn't know he was supposed to be in his 40's... Looks much younger than his years.
![]() I'm agnostic about this really. I do think it's pretty ridiculous that Phil an aging ex-alcoholic and crack addict with a dodgy ticker, would still be ruling the Square like this and taking on younger, fitter guy's. On other hand, it's clear most of the fan's love is cause it harkens back to the "golden era" when Phil and Grant really did rule the roost. Clearly the era of King Phil must be drawing to an end though... I can't see how TPTB can keep him King of the Square much longer and it not become beyond parody... This might even be the last time we really see Phil taking on an adversary like this. |
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If you ask me Phil played the smart card, he set off the alarm to get Vincent attention, Vincent checks it out as Phil hides knowing full well Vincent can take him if he seen, Vincent comes out and bobs your uncle, Phil throws a punch with power to the jaw which is going to realistic force someone head to turn. Then while he down Phil took full advantage, it call outwitting your opponent, Phil might appear stupid but it well known that he was the smarter of the brothers in the first place. Justice was served but yes I think it start of long road.
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I would love someone to get the better of Phil for a change.
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It was an awful scene. It was pathetic. Up there with the awful scenes Steve did when his character was drunk and high on crack. Steve is a good actor but certain things he has done over the years on EE are worth bowing his head in shame.
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To be honest it wasn't that unrealistic the way Phil beat up Vincent as after all Vincent was not expecting Phil to punch him so it is not too unrealistic that Vincent fell to the floor as after all Phil has a long history of violence and he use to be a boxer in his younger days so he should know how to pack a punch. Granted Phil is not the fighter he once was but just because he is in his 50's it doesn't mean that he has lost all his fighting abilities. Once Phil had Vincent on the floor he clearly had the upper hand and Vincent no doubt would of been dazed and shocked so it is not that unlikely that on this occasion he couldn't fight back and Phil continued to attack him.
It would of been unrealistic if Phil had beaten up Vincent in a straight one on one fight were the sucker punch wasn't used as Vincent is clearly younger and fitter than Phil and could easily beat Phil nowadays as shown in there previous fight in the Car Lot as Phil punch on that occasion had little impact on Vincent and he easily blocked it and got the better of Phil on that occasion. People saying Phil wouldn't use violence against Vincent after the first fight are forgetting that violence is the only way Phil knows how to deal with situations, he has used violence most of his life to get out of situations so it would be out of character for him to change the habit of a lifetime. Phil although it could be argued was cowardly in there second fight was actually more cunning than he was on the first occasion he had a fight against Vincent from his point of view. Phil didn't make the same mistake twice as he knew the sucker punch was the only way he could now realistically beat Vincent. It will be interesting to see how the next fight between these two turns out and what Vincent has in store as this feud is just beginning. |
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I actually thought the guy playing Vincent was late 20's or early 30's. Didn't know he was supposed to be in his 40's... Looks much younger than his years.
![]() I'm agnostic about this really. I do think it's pretty ridiculous that Phil an aging ex-alcoholic and crack addict with a dodgy ticker, would still be ruling the Square like this and taking on younger, fitter guy's. On other hand, it's clear most of the fan's love is cause it harkens back to the "golden era" when Phil and Grant really did rule the roost. Clearly the era of King Phil must be drawing to an end though... I can't see how TPTB can keep him King of the Square much longer and it not become beyond parody... This might even be the last time we really see Phil taking on an adversary like this. http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/de...glish/agnostic I totally agree with your point, though. |
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There's a reason why Phil sneaked him. There first fight started with Phil throwing a punch and ended with Vincent countering him crisply. Phil learned from his experience: the second time around he waited in the shadows and punched an unsuspecting Vincent.
There's nothing unrealistic about someone getting dropped by a punch they did not see coming. However the belief that it is not possible is why so many bullies do not get their comeuppance. Bullies rely on creating the aura of invincibility that deters individuals dropping them when the opportunity presents itself. |
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Vincent's song is...
Give me sunshine, In my life, I'll destroy Philth in a fight, I will cull this Mitchell, Till his ticker is all done, The square's mine, With one crime, Let there be love, |
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When this was happening all I could focus on was the drink price board, what a con!
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He was huffing and buffing like he was gonna collapse all of that wasent realistic
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