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Cilla for No 1?
Can Cilla Black go back to No 1?
Anyone Who Had A Heart is charting just outside the top 10 right now with a campaign across twitter and facebook to get the 1963 song back to the top! Now the national press are also joining in! Join in at: https://twitter.com/cillaforno1 https://www.facebook.com/cillaforno1 |
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Can Cilla Black go back to No 1?
Anyone Who Had A Heart is charting just outside the top 10 right now with a campaign across twitter and facebook to get the 1963 song back to the top! Now the national press are also joining in! Join in at: https://twitter.com/cillaforno1 https://www.facebook.com/cillaforno1 It was as you say, "a 1963 song," but it was recorded in that year by Dionne Warwick and it got to No 8 in the US, but only No 42 in the UK. Cilla covered the song in 1964 and it made No 1. But it didn't chart at all in the USA, maybe it wasn't released there.. |
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Even if it did get to this now mythical "No. 1" slot, would anybody even know about it or even care? I haven't heard of any references to chart positions since the end of TOTP.
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No thanks.
As sad as it is that she passed, I'm not fond of these campaigns to get a deceased singer back in the charts. |
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Even if it did get to this now mythical "No. 1" slot, would anybody even know about it or even care? I haven't heard of any references to chart positions since the end of TOTP.
Most new recordings can be acquired by downloading an "official" YouTube video as an mp3. Where's the statistics for those other than the YouTube "hit" total? |
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Considering the alternative is One Direction's pretty awful new song I have no problem with Cilla at #1
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Exactly. It really only had any relevance when people actually bought records or CD singles.
Most new recordings can be acquired by downloading an "official" YouTube video as an mp3. Where's the statistics for those other than the YouTube "hit" total? |
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You do know that the number one single still constantly sells at least 100,000 in downloads compared to ten years ago where a number one could sell as low as 10000 copies on CD. Yes streaming is added to that as well but even without that single sales are still very high pretty much at 80s levels. Its albums that are struggling most.
I'm not into contemporary pop, so my knowledge of how chart positions are established is scant. But I don't think Youtube mp3 downloads, count as streaming. |
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I'd surprised if it didn't.
It was as you say, "a 1963 song," but it was recorded in that year by Dionne Warwick and it got to No 8 in the US, but ontoday 42 in the UK. Cilla covered the song in 1964 and it made No 1. But it didn't chart at all in the USA, maybe it wasn't released there.. Im not overly fussed about this even being a hit. I remember it from fifty one years ago and itll always be, for me, associated with my childhood in 1964. i dont want to hear it today in general, itll ruin its nostalgia value for me |
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For me, any revival of a Burt Bacharach/Hal David song can only be a good thing regardless of the circumstances behind it. These 2 guys were arguably the greatest postwar songwriters I don't mind Cilla's big hit getting up there again...and Dionne Warwick's original version was also very good if not quite as dramatic as Cilla's.
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For me, any revival of a Burt Bacharach/Hal David song can only be a good thing regardless of the circumstances behind it. These 2 guys were arguably the greatest postwar songwriters I don't mind Cilla's big hit getting up there again...and Dionne Warwick's original version was also very good if not quite as dramatic as Cilla's.
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I don't get this modern fashion for buying music to make a statement. If you like it, buy it. If you don't, don't. No one else cares...
Apart from the rights owners, of course. If you want to make them happy, buy it. |
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The Charts aren't relevant anymore. Who cares.
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The Charts aren't relevant anymore. Who cares.
The charts just seem totally irrelevant these days. I'm always mystified that when someone dies some people suddenly feel obliged to then make an effort to buy one of their songs. If you like it why haven't you already got it? Invariably it's a well known song and you're already aware of it? Although maybe I'll answer my own question here and say that maybe a certain amount of people might not have been aware of it previously and have now discovered and decided they like it? But, enough to then subsequently make into the next number 1?
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I don't get this modern fashion for buying music to make a statement. If you like it, buy it. If you don't, don't. No one else cares...
Apart from the rights owners, of course. If you want to make them happy, buy it. And as usual the only people who think charts are irrelevant are people to are no longer interested in pop music to kids they still matter maybe not chart positions as such but being number one still means something. The charts are slow but if anything they are more relevant than they have ever been as they actually reflect what people listen to as well as buy, not just a hyped 99p singles like in the late 90s or being able to chart selling 500 copies like in the mid 00s. Cilla wont get to number one without streaming and that means people will have to listen to her not just buy it out of sympathy. |
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I seem to have some morbid obsession, literally checking the chart twice a day to see where cillas song is! I know she has no chance but CILLA FOR NO1
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Yes, Cilla could belt it out, couldn't she?
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It's more a No.2 kind of song.
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I think Alfie was Cilla's best song Dionne Warrick's version of the song is much better.
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I think Alfie was Cilla's best song Dionne Warrick's version of the song is much better.
Dusty just OWNS this. |
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I think the days of posthumous #1 singles in the UK have slowly become a thing of the past.
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all that and Cilla fails to make the Top 40 !!!
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I am going through her greatest hits and I am very impressed with what I am hearing. Cilla had a unique peculiar voice. I love 60's music and I kick myself for waiting until her death to finally check out her other music. |
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I love Dusty but i dislike her recording of Anyone who had a heart. It lacks the heart and soul that Cilla brought to it. Dionne's isn't perfect either. To me, Cilla sings that song like she wrote it herself. Sheridan Smith captures this perfectly when playing Cilla as well. Dusty sounds lifeless and bored. As if she in a bad mood or did not want to recording it. The production is a bit messy as well. It's without a doubt one of the few weakest vocal performances she did.
I am going through her greatest hits and I am very impressed with what I am hearing. Cilla had a unique peculiar voice. I love 60's music and I kick myself for waiting until her death to finally check out her other music. |
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Although maybe I'll answer my own question here and say that maybe a certain amount of people might not have been aware of it previously and have now discovered and decided they like it? But, enough to then subsequently make into the next number 1?