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Old 04-08-2015, 16:21
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Can Cilla Black go back to No 1?

Anyone Who Had A Heart is charting just outside the top 10 right now with a campaign across twitter and facebook to get the 1963 song back to the top! Now the national press are also joining in!

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https://twitter.com/cillaforno1

https://www.facebook.com/cillaforno1
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Old 04-08-2015, 16:33
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Can Cilla Black go back to No 1?

Anyone Who Had A Heart is charting just outside the top 10 right now with a campaign across twitter and facebook to get the 1963 song back to the top! Now the national press are also joining in!

Join in at:

https://twitter.com/cillaforno1

https://www.facebook.com/cillaforno1
I'd surprised if it didn't.

It was as you say, "a 1963 song," but it was recorded in that year by Dionne Warwick and it got to No 8 in the US, but only No 42 in the UK.

Cilla covered the song in 1964 and it made No 1.
But it didn't chart at all in the USA, maybe it wasn't released there..
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Old 04-08-2015, 17:32
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Even if it did get to this now mythical "No. 1" slot, would anybody even know about it or even care? I haven't heard of any references to chart positions since the end of TOTP.
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Old 04-08-2015, 17:41
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No thanks.

As sad as it is that she passed, I'm not fond of these campaigns to get a deceased singer back in the charts.
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Old 04-08-2015, 17:42
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Even if it did get to this now mythical "No. 1" slot, would anybody even know about it or even care? I haven't heard of any references to chart positions since the end of TOTP.
Exactly. It really only had any relevance when people actually bought records or CD singles.

Most new recordings can be acquired by downloading an "official" YouTube video as an mp3. Where's the statistics for those other than the YouTube "hit" total?
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Old 04-08-2015, 17:42
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Considering the alternative is One Direction's pretty awful new song I have no problem with Cilla at #1
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Old 04-08-2015, 17:54
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Exactly. It really only had any relevance when people actually bought records or CD singles.

Most new recordings can be acquired by downloading an "official" YouTube video as an mp3. Where's the statistics for those other than the YouTube "hit" total?
You do know that the number one single still constantly sells at least 100,000 in downloads compared to ten years ago where a number one could sell as low as 10000 copies on CD. Yes streaming is added to that as well but even without that single sales are still very high pretty much at 80s levels. Its albums that are struggling most.
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Old 04-08-2015, 18:35
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You do know that the number one single still constantly sells at least 100,000 in downloads compared to ten years ago where a number one could sell as low as 10000 copies on CD. Yes streaming is added to that as well but even without that single sales are still very high pretty much at 80s levels. Its albums that are struggling most.
That's interesting information for anyone who cares about chart positions.
I'm not into contemporary pop, so my knowledge of how chart positions are established is scant.
But I don't think Youtube mp3 downloads, count as streaming.
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Old 04-08-2015, 18:53
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I'd surprised if it didn't.

It was as you say, "a 1963 song," but it was recorded in that year by Dionne Warwick and it got to No 8 in the US, but ontoday 42 in the UK.

Cilla covered the song in 1964 and it made No 1.
But it didn't chart at all in the USA, maybe it wasn't released there..
Nice that you have posted the facts about the song, i hate retro things being wrongly portrayed.

Im not overly fussed about this even being a hit. I remember it from fifty one years ago and itll always be, for me, associated with my childhood in 1964. i dont want to hear it today in general, itll ruin its nostalgia value for me
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Old 04-08-2015, 19:46
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For me, any revival of a Burt Bacharach/Hal David song can only be a good thing regardless of the circumstances behind it. These 2 guys were arguably the greatest postwar songwriters I don't mind Cilla's big hit getting up there again...and Dionne Warwick's original version was also very good if not quite as dramatic as Cilla's.
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Old 04-08-2015, 20:01
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For me, any revival of a Burt Bacharach/Hal David song can only be a good thing regardless of the circumstances behind it. These 2 guys were arguably the greatest postwar songwriters I don't mind Cilla's big hit getting up there again...and Dionne Warwick's original version was also very good if not quite as dramatic as Cilla's.
Yes, Cilla could belt it out, couldn't she?
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Old 04-08-2015, 21:28
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I don't get this modern fashion for buying music to make a statement. If you like it, buy it. If you don't, don't. No one else cares...

Apart from the rights owners, of course. If you want to make them happy, buy it.
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Old 04-08-2015, 22:04
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The Charts aren't relevant anymore. Who cares.
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Old 04-08-2015, 22:26
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The Charts aren't relevant anymore. Who cares.
I completely agree and also with the opinions above basically saying the same.
The charts just seem totally irrelevant these days.

I'm always mystified that when someone dies some people suddenly feel obliged to then make an effort to buy one of their songs. If you like it why haven't you already got it? Invariably it's a well known song and you're already aware of it? Although maybe I'll answer my own question here and say that maybe a certain amount of people might not have been aware of it previously and have now discovered and decided they like it? But, enough to then subsequently make into the next number 1?
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Old 04-08-2015, 23:12
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I don't get this modern fashion for buying music to make a statement. If you like it, buy it. If you don't, don't. No one else cares...

Apart from the rights owners, of course. If you want to make them happy, buy it.
I think you can trace this back to Princess Diana and 'Candle In The Wind' its not that modern a concept. I don't agree with it personally if you liked her before you should have bought her music but sometimes it gives you a kick that you need to realize how important somebody was like when Kurt Cobain died or Amy Winehouse, their legacy grew stronger and Cilla was important, not a fan mind you.

And as usual the only people who think charts are irrelevant are people to are no longer interested in pop music to kids they still matter maybe not chart positions as such but being number one still means something. The charts are slow but if anything they are more relevant than they have ever been as they actually reflect what people listen to as well as buy, not just a hyped 99p singles like in the late 90s or being able to chart selling 500 copies like in the mid 00s. Cilla wont get to number one without streaming and that means people will have to listen to her not just buy it out of sympathy.
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Old 06-08-2015, 21:33
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I seem to have some morbid obsession, literally checking the chart twice a day to see where cillas song is! I know she has no chance but CILLA FOR NO1
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Old 06-08-2015, 21:43
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Yes, Cilla could belt it out, couldn't she?
She murdered it, she has an awful singing voice. Sorry Cilla
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Old 07-08-2015, 01:14
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It's more a No.2 kind of song.
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Old 07-08-2015, 01:40
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I think Alfie was Cilla's best song Dionne Warrick's version of the song is much better.
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Old 07-08-2015, 18:35
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I think Alfie was Cilla's best song Dionne Warrick's version of the song is much better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgYt1YMRwjc

Dusty just OWNS this.
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Old 07-08-2015, 18:46
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Dusty was so talented, Cilla nowhere near her.
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Old 07-08-2015, 18:51
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I think the days of posthumous #1 singles in the UK have slowly become a thing of the past.
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Old 07-08-2015, 19:49
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all that and Cilla fails to make the Top 40 !!!
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Old 07-08-2015, 19:55
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I love Dusty but i dislike her recording of Anyone who had a heart. It lacks the heart and soul that Cilla brought to it. Dionne's isn't perfect either. To me, Cilla sings that song like she wrote it herself. Sheridan Smith captures this perfectly when playing Cilla as well. Dusty sounds lifeless and bored. As if she in a bad mood or did not want to recording it. The production is a bit messy as well. It's without a doubt one of the few weakest vocal performances she did.

I am going through her greatest hits and I am very impressed with what I am hearing. Cilla had a unique peculiar voice. I love 60's music and I kick myself for waiting until her death to finally check out her other music.
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Old 07-08-2015, 20:35
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I love Dusty but i dislike her recording of Anyone who had a heart. It lacks the heart and soul that Cilla brought to it. Dionne's isn't perfect either. To me, Cilla sings that song like she wrote it herself. Sheridan Smith captures this perfectly when playing Cilla as well. Dusty sounds lifeless and bored. As if she in a bad mood or did not want to recording it. The production is a bit messy as well. It's without a doubt one of the few weakest vocal performances she did.

I am going through her greatest hits and I am very impressed with what I am hearing. Cilla had a unique peculiar voice. I love 60's music and I kick myself for waiting until her death to finally check out her other music.
Cilla Was BETTER than Dusty
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