Kerry and Dan went to lift her out then didn't due to her injuries and why they stayed with her

This is what struck me too. Nobody seemed concerned about Ruby and certainly weren't bothered that Dan and Kerry had stayed by her side throughout.

I was also concerned that nobody tried to put out the small fires that were burning! Clearly that's going to lead to another massive explosion that destroys the hall and everything around it. Might also trigger the much-discussed



Would be fantastic if that did happen.

Wait, what!?

There's not going to be a . I'm sure that was just a rumour when everyone was speculating what the stunt was.

don't you just love it when rumour and people's over active imaginations become fact

I do have a prediction/spoiler though (BIB is the actual spoiler, the rest is my imagination):

Sorry for speaking

Hopefully they won't make another Carl King style cock up and kill off Val.

I'm not her biggest fan but she's a modern legend of the show which is running low on history and has already played fast and loose with what little it has left in recent years with the deaths of Terry, Viv, Donna and Katie, and Robert turning into a bisexual psychopath.

I'm not sure what will happen with Ross. I've seen the idea mooted that Pete will think he's killed him when really he hasn't but Pete isn't stupid enough to mistake Ross for dead.

Don't be. I'm not up with all the latest spoilers either - not everybody is.

I think Val is a goner. They should definitely leave the door open whether it be via a "did she die or not?" method or otherwise. I think a shock Diane death and Val ending up in prison because she can't go through with faking her death would be more effective but I can't see it happening.

Also I think Val will die as it will lead to Alicia's return as David and her help Eric come to terms with it all.

To be honest, I think Pete is stupid enough for anything. He constantly ignored the fact that debbie had her tongue out for Ross, and still married her. I'm amazed he can find his own backside.

I'm amazed they haven't killed him off really, I've had more than enough of his sibling rivalry with Ross, it's dull as.

Sorry, didn't mean to come across as rude or anything. You never know it could happen. I'd just be stunned.

sorry I thought it was funny

might still happen you never know

difference is Tom Lister didn't want to leave. agree with the second paragraph esp the robert bit

I picked up on this well and found it quite interesting. Over the past couple of years, I've noticed the character groupings becoming quite entwined with each other within the village, with many becoming quite close-knit and connected in some way. But what was interesting to see is that in the madness of the disaster, everybody went into their own little groups and became determined to make sure that their loved ones were okay with very little thought for anyone else. Could be reading too much into that and it could just be down to lazy writing instead, but I prefer my observation.

I think it was more a case of Ruby couldn't be moved, noone could help her, Dan and Kerry refused to leave her, so they were left to comfort their loved one in relative peace. I wouldn't want a load of people looming over me whilst I was bleeding to death, just my close family.

That's also an interesting way of looking at it and - true enough, completely agree. I just would have expected a few more comments about her and just interpreted it that everyone was preoccupied with making sure 'their own' were okay, but then again they did only have a 22 minute episode tonight with a lot to squeeze in so could be that too!

Interesting thoughts these - I wondered as well why they didn't at the very least get Emma to come in and see her (once they knew Joanie was ok and so on). I suspect though it was very much almost meant to be pretty much 'real time' almost, so everyone rushing round and getting people to safety and concentrating on what they were doing. I did wonder though why nobody tried to put the fires out and why it was was just Cain who went back in to look for Kyle - you would have thought that Aaron and maybe even Andy would have tried to help.

I thought so too...until I read this morning she as been seen shooting further episodes..

Does that mean we have to keep Emma?

Just to point out that moira did say that ruby,kerry and dan were still in the building and needed help, at least she remembered lol

It could not be anymore obvious that it's Val that dies. This won't one of those 'it's so obvious, they'll do something else'. It's going to be Val. Don't bother thinking it's anyone else.

I'm still confused about why

a) nobody wondered where Diane and Val were, (Diane especially - she's not called The Oar for nothing and is invariably first on the scene for the opening of an envelope) and
b) why Diane and Val were so disinterested in the mayhem going on outside, when they mentioned they heard screaming, the lights went out etc and it was perfectly obvious something bad had happened.

Three more?
I thought that the full total was going to be two.
Anyone think that Kerry will now go down the line of going into nursing? (just going on a comment she made).
Why get rid of Ruby? She was the best one of that "family".

If they kill Val that will be a horrendous decision! And I'm saying that as a really casual viewer! Any time I tune in and she's on you can see she's a brilliant character. She's hilarious but the actress seems very versatile and can also do the emotional stuff. Just my 2 cents!