Hardly.

He could return im sure

I think Ross is dead but wouldn't be shocked if he returned

They saying his dead but could be a trick.

Earlier in the show Aaron did exactly the same to Joanie only to be told by a trained nurse it was there but faint, in panic and untrained it's easy to miss a pulse. And breathing whilst unconscious is very easy to miss.

The producer did say we'd have a returnee, soaplife said someone actually fakes their death (not plans too) and Mike Parr posted videos just last week from backstage.

Also Kate Oates worked on Hollyoaks and is known for her shock deaths and returns.

He's gone
Not coming back get over it

I don't believe that he is. She just told him that to persuade him to help her.


They are daft but not that daft

I would not say he is obviously dead... Pete checked his pulse in a panic, and he isn't a paramedic, nurse, doctor... he could have missed it, and he may have just been unconscious. Declan was smashed over the head a few times and left to drown in the middle of a lake, and he turned up later on....

Maybe. But Michael Parr's tearful interview seems pretty conclusive. Ok, it wasn't long and he doesn't appear to have done an exit interview like the others - but why bother otherwise? Plus the spoilers did say that one of the death might not be due to the disaster.

For me, everything I saw on screen pointed to Ross being dead; ED went for shock value and the actor himself said that he couldn't reveal it to anyone. The storyline will now be Pete and Debbie's relationship; both living with the guilt of their actions, though obviously Debbie doesn't know about Ross. Pete must also be on tenterhooks as Sarah saw him return to the house and change his clothes; then there's the fact that Debbie said she didn't care how Cain made Ross go away, and Cain won't now tell her what he did. Plus the fact that Debbie had nightmares about Cameron for ages, and settled with Pete because she felt safe with him; thought she could trust him. There's all that to explore

If we saw Pete struggling with depression/guilt and maybe kill, or consider killing, again to protect his secret and all these other things playing out, and then Ross walked in in 6 months or so - it would not only be unrealistic it would mean the potential storylines they have set up would be wasted.

I can see Cain getting the blame somehow and maybe being arrested as they may think Ross is in the quarry as no one apart from Pete saw him after his dive. Debbie's distress at her dad possibly going down will lead to a Pete confession to Debbie. They will go to find the body and he isn't there. At the same time, divers will not find Ross in the quarry... and then no one will know where he is

I cant beleive people are still doubting Ross's death. Mind boggling.

Why though? How many times do you see in soaps characters coming back from "the dead". It is looking likely that Michael Parr has left but the way Pete "buried" him was rubbish and still leaves questions. I'm sure it will become clear if they find a body and it is Ross and is identified and then buried then people will have their answer until then there is no reason that Pete couldn't go to the "grave" and find it empty. Time will tell

I find it stranger that people are so determined he's dead when they have no more of a clue than the rest of us.

No one has said Ross 100% isn't dead but there's just a few things that don't add up which lead people to think 'Hmmm I wonder..'

I don't see how. I just can't comprehend that Kate Oates is going to run an exact replica of the Cameron storyline again. Again if Ross is dead then Pete is leaving the show too as he can't get away with it. His DNA is everywhere. He threw up near the body for goodness sake. Plus it's not exactly well concealed.

Ross must be alive. If he isn't then Kate Oates has lost the plot and I've praised her so much during her time at ED but this would be simply ridiculous.

Not even taking into consideration that a character like Ross deserved a better exit. If he was being killed they could've got months worth of material from it. It would've been a great whodunit. It's a waste to get rid of him this week when his exit alone would've been worthy of a big week and trailers.

I am not a Ross super fan like some on the site, or even really a fan of his per say. I think the actor is good and very believable compared to a lot of soap actors that are around. As a 38 year old straight male I am not concerned either way if he is dead or alive. The show will be great with or without him..

However as a rational person I cannot dismiss the fact that it was far too ambiguous to say either way... Pete checked his pulse for a split second and he wasn't buried or burned in the car. I get why people say he is dead, I also get why people say he isn't... time will tell I suppose

I think it's a shame that a lot of Ross's fans, particularly on twitter, seem to be solely focussed on what Michael looks like rather than his acting abilities or the largely fantastic writing for the character. Yes he's a good looking guy, I personally find him attractive, but there's so much more to Ross than that. It's frustrating to see so many tweets essentially saying "waa waa Ross is gone, who can I ogle now?" I mean I'm not anti people commenting on his looks, I've done it myself several times, but when that's all they've got to say... I dunno, I feel a bit bad for Michael. Who knows how he feels about it himself but I'd be surprised if it wasn't frustrating for him.
He does absolutely nothing for me personally but I believe Adam is considered good looking, for example, but there isn't anything like the same fuss about him as there is about Ross. Surely that's down to the character being dull, stupid, bratty, childish and utterly tedious, and the actor being very poor. There's just nothing to the character, he's totally pointless and his looks do nothing to remedy that. Looks aren't enough to make a character charismatic at all and Ross is fantastically charismatic. Of course credit goes to the writers for that as well as Michael.

Not that often in ED, if I recall - and certainly not after we've seen them jump into a quarry getting knocked out, falling and hitting their head, being punched in the face, slung in the boot of a car and thrown down a slope.


He said that he has, and he seemed quite emotional about it.


Pete had no idea his fiancee was sleeping with his brother, and found out in the worst possible way. Before he could process it, the roof fell in - literally - and he had the shock of that, and of believing Debbie had died. Ross turned up at the hospital and they fought, then they had a more serious fight; he pushed Ross, realised he'd gone too far and had actually killed his own brother.
I'd say he wasn't exactly thinking straight.


They'll be more willing to accept it then, certainly.


Well there is.
Pete is 100% certain he has killed Ross. He hasn't buried him as such, just dumped his body somewhere for someone else to find. Why would he want to go back for another look; a) it would remind him of what had happened and b) he'd risk being seen.

I'm certain Ross is dead and they're setting up future storylines.
Debbie told Cain to make sure Ross went away - she didn't care how.
Cain might well think he has killed him.
Pete doesn't seem able to handle the guilt, plus he is keeping a secret from Debbie.
Debbie had nightmares for ages about Cameron and believed she was safe with Pete.
Sarah, (and April?) saw Pete throwing his clothes away - supposing they say something?
April was close to Ross, and now another adult mummy's boyfriend - has left her.
Charity was trying to get Ross to split up a marriage so that she could have Cain back. She could be set up as having hired someone to kill him.
Finn's guilt; why didn't he say something?

If Ross is not dead; everyone assumes he has done a runner; he returns in 6 months to pick up from where he left off. Where's the story in that?

Even still this is soap and anything can happen.



He did although the pretend crying was more jokingly. His tweet today seemed more emotional. He is also a bit of a joker, which is why people are unsure. Been seen at the studios quite a few times is also confusing for some. Even with him leaving still doesn't give a definite answer about Ross' Death YET



But he was thinking enough to put him in the boot of a car and dump the body and get rid of the clothes he wearing. Surely the first thing you do is get help and seeing as he was right next to the hospital it wouldn't have been difficult. By doing that Ross may have had a chance


Yep.


You already said he wasn't thinking straight so how can he have been 100%.Aaron couldn't find a pulse on Joanie as it was faint, what's to say it wouldn't have been difficult for Pete. If he had just dumped the body for someone else to find then why bother? He has murdered someone and dumped the body. He didn't bother covering his tracks very well so there would be prints and whatever else at the area. He may aswell just hand himself in to the police. He wouldn't go back just for a look he would go back to try and see if he can do a better job of hiding the body. Either that it is prison

If the police find his body then Pete will be sent down before you can blink. The evidence is so overwhelming that even soap police couldn't get it wrong. If it isn't his body then Pete feels the pressure as people are suspicious. A Cameron type scenario unfolds with Debbie married to a killer. We've been there before. If it isn't Ross' body found then I think he's alive and thus we avoid a Cameron 2.0 storyline (or at least only part of it plays out before Pete gets the fright of his life and Ross has a hold over him).

Did anyone else not notice the clue in tonight's episode? Correct me if I'm wrong, but when Cain went back to the quarry, walking down that dirt path, didn't he look, stop and then say something like "you've got to be kidding me". Perhaps the van he was expecting to find at the quarry edge had vanished, used as an escape vehicle by an injured Ross? It can't be because the back doors are opened as he would have expected Ross to attempt that!

I'm sure Pete will do a bush check soon, then we will know.

His face was wet and he wiped his eye - how do you know he was joking?

I'm more upset about Val's exit to be honest. It was wonderfully done and I forgot it is only a soap for a while and the actress is still alive.

I was just thinking:

How good would it be if Pete cracks under the pressure in a few months, confesses to Debbie what he did and them Ross walks through the door alive and well?

Make it happen Kate Oates. It's too good a scene to waste .