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Old 07-08-2015, 13:08
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Following on from the great CS thread what are the most obvious plot holes mistakes or things that just don't add up from ED this week. Here's mine

1- Ross must have been unconscious in the water for half the episode surely that would have killed him

2- Rodney and Eric I'm that pub- A the sound would have been turned up B locals would have been discussing it C why did no one think of sending him a text

3- where were the emergency services through wendsdays episode for Pete and Ross ( without transport) to get to the hospital before anyone first responders police etc turned up seriously

4- Val had full use of her arms why not use that to protect herself or as she was in more danger why not get out first

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Old 07-08-2015, 13:14
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I agree about Val using her arms to protect herself she could have gotten stabbed in the hands instead of being impaled but she accepted her death which is probably why she didn't try and save herfself.
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Old 07-08-2015, 13:16
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Even though Val was in more danger she let Diane get out first.
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Old 07-08-2015, 13:21
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Following on from the great CS thread what are the most obvious plot holes mistakes or things that just don't add up from ED this week. Here's mine

1- Ross must have been unconscious in the water for half the episode surely that would have killed him

2- Rodney and Eric I'm that pub- A the sound would have been turned up B locals would have been discussing it C why did no one think of sending him a text

3- where were the emergency services through wendsdays episode for Pete and Ross ( without transport) to get to the hospital before anyone first responders police etc turned up seriously

4- Val had full use of her arms why not use that to protect herself or as she was in more danger why not get out first

Your thoughts please
1. Ross may have only been in there a matter of minutes, as when we next saw him he was washed up on the side of the river.

2 I never take notice of the tv when in pubs, and also if they had had a fair bit to drink may have been oblivious to what was going on, they may have text him but if he wasn't answering his phone he wasn't going to bother reading the texts

3 The actual time of Wednesdays episode may have took place over about 10 mins, as the scenes in the village hall, outside the village hall and the mirror maze would be happening at the same time.

4 I don't think Val's arms would have done that much to protect her from the fall.
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Old 07-08-2015, 13:22
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I agree about Val using her arms to protect herself she could have gotten stabbed in the hands instead of being impaled but she accepted her death which is probably why she didn't try and save herfself.
Charlie Hardwick was leaving so there was always a good chance Val would be one of the characters to die.
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Old 07-08-2015, 13:25
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I don't think Val would have had much hope of saving herself whatever she did.
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Old 07-08-2015, 13:37
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Maybe Val knew deep down that her ridiculous 'canoe-man' plan was doomed to failure and really couldn't stomach the thought of the inevitable prison time, and having finally done a selfless thing for her beloved sister, just decided to dice with death one last time and accept the consequences.
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Old 07-08-2015, 13:45
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1. Ross may have only been in there a matter of minutes, as when we next saw him he was washed up on the side of the river.

2 I never take notice of the tv when in pubs, and also if they had had a fair bit to drink may have been oblivious to what was going on, they may have text him but if he wasn't answering his phone he wasn't going to bother reading the texts

3 The actual time of Wednesdays episode may have took place over about 10 mins, as the scenes in the village hall, outside the village hall and the mirror maze would be happening at the same time.

4 I don't think Val's arms would have done that much to protect her from the fall.
1 and 3 together do make sense although I still think the lack of emergency services much less the air ambulance laughable

However point 2 still stands this was a major disaster in a local area the sound would have been turned up the locals would be talking they would have noticed
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Old 07-08-2015, 13:50
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1 and 3 together do make sense although I still think the lack of emergency services much less the air ambulance laughable

However point 2 still stands this was a major disaster in a local area the sound would have been turned up the locals would be talking they would have noticed
What gets me is that the ITV TV helicopter turned up alot faster than the emergency services.
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Old 07-08-2015, 14:03
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Debbie's flawless make up AFTER the incident. Even in her hospital bed it was perfect.
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Old 07-08-2015, 14:32
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Following on from the great CS thread what are the most obvious plot holes mistakes or things that just don't add up from ED this week. Here's mine

1- Ross must have been unconscious in the water for half the episode surely that would have killed him

2- Rodney and Eric I'm that pub- A the sound would have been turned up B locals would have been discussing it C why did no one think of sending him a text

3- where were the emergency services through wendsdays episode for Pete and Ross ( without transport) to get to the hospital before anyone first responders police etc turned up seriously

4- Val had full use of her arms why not use that to protect herself or as she was in more danger why not get out first

Why didn't David go and get Eric instead of trying to ring him. Also the emergency services telling Cain to get out and leave a child I couldn't understand that bit to be honest but was go glad when Cain decided to stay and protect the wee thing

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Why didn't David go and get Eric instead of trying to ring him. Also the emergency services telling Cain to get out and leave a child I couldn't understand that bit to be honest but was go glad when Cain decided to stay and protect the wee thing
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Old 07-08-2015, 14:36
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Debbie's flawless make up AFTER the incident. Even in her hospital bed it was perfect.
Debbie was the biggest SOR for me too. Not only her perfect makeup and hair, but also her instant operation (over within 15 minutes), and of course waking up from anesthesia with a clear mind, ready and willing to discuss her love life.

Other minor SOR for me:

1. The story was on the news with helicopter aerial view shots and "all over Twitter", yet noone came to help, or even just to watch (which sadly many people do in real life). Who tweeted it? Adam and Chrissie from the hospital? Who informed the TV stations? When?

2. Most of the people involved live really close by. Why didn't anyone go home (or, say, to the vet surgery) and get a first aid kit, some water, a fire extinguisher...

3. Why was the car door locked when Adam tried to get out? He hardly would have locked himself in?
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Old 07-08-2015, 15:06
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Another question you could ask is, where was everyone else in the village who wasn't there?

It was as if only the people who attended that wedding were present throughout everything. Where were the usual extras we see in the pub or cafe?

Where was Megan, Ashley, Jai, Layla, Sam, Rachel, Paddy, Edna, Carly, Pearl, Jimmy, Priya, Rishi, Harriet and Tracy?. Realistically if these people were in the village and not invited, they would of heard the crash and came out to help

Sam is related to Debbie so why didn't he go, and if he had gone, his son and rachel would of gone as well.
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Old 07-08-2015, 15:11
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Another question you could ask is, where was everyone else in the village who wasn't there?

It was as if only the people who attended that wedding were present throughout everything. Where were the usual extras we see in the pub or cafe?

Where was Megan, Ashley, Jai, Layla, Sam, Rachel, Paddy, Edna, Carly, Pearl, Jimmy, Priya, Rishi, Harriet and Tracy?. Realistically if these people were in the village and not invited, they would of heard the crash and came out to help

Sam is related to Debbie so why didn't he go, and if he had gone, his son and rachel would of gone as well.
And where was Noah? Was he not invited to his own sister's wedding?
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Old 07-08-2015, 15:12
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Where were the fairground people ? They left their fairground operational & unattended. Everyone was on the rides, in the hall of mirrors etc.

We should place bets on how long it will take to rennovate the village hall. Those soap builders will be around shortly, should take a couple of weeks maximum.
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Old 07-08-2015, 15:13
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What gets me is that the ITV TV helicopter turned up alot faster than the emergency services.

3- where were the emergency services through wendsdays episode for Pete and Ross ( without transport) to get to the hospital before anyone first responders police etc turned up seriously
Debbie's flawless make up AFTER the incident. Even in her hospital bed it was perfect.
THIS!!
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Old 07-08-2015, 15:33
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Debbie's perfect dress, skin, make up! That one wound me up no end. Is their a clause in her contract saying she's not allowed to look crap? She was the only one (as far as I'm aware) that was buried underneath all the debris and yet there wasn't a mark on her, or her dress, as Pete carried her out (and he himself was only lightly dusted). Or had they spent all their budget on the stunt and couldn't afford fake blood and a theatrical make up artist?

I hated it when she woke up and she wasn't concerned about anyone else. Her kids for example?! If it was me I'd want to see my kids instantly, I'd need to see they were okay and hug them, I wouldn't care about anything else. She didn't question her own health either. And had she really just had surgery?! My god that's laughable! She wasn't even groggy - she acted like she just woke up after passing out drunk. In fact, no, even drunk she'd be slightly groggy.

... Yeah, I cannot stand the character of Debbie any more! Bring on her maternity leave.

Also - a small one - but Pete and Ross' fight in the hospital. Two security guards right there on their ward, doing nothing, the very split second they started? Not likely.
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Old 07-08-2015, 15:37
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Another question you could ask is, where was everyone else in the village who wasn't there?

It was as if only the people who attended that wedding were present throughout everything. Where were the usual extras we see in the pub or cafe?

Where was Megan, Ashley, Jai, Layla, Sam, Rachel, Paddy, Edna, Carly, Pearl, Jimmy, Priya, Rishi, Harriet and Tracy?. Realistically if these people were in the village and not invited, they would of heard the crash and came out to help

Sam is related to Debbie so why didn't he go, and if he had gone, his son and rachel would of gone as well.
I have been thinking about exactly the same things all week! Undoubtedly, absolutely thrilling episodes this week, however, all of them infuriatingly baffling and terribly disjointed! The Plane Crash episodes of 1993 were far better and considerably more understated in terms of the actual event occurring, we barely saw anything and there was no CGI whatsoever!

I set my hopes and expectations way too high and they plummeted quicker than the doomed helicopter. It's an awful shame as both the script and performances were dynamite, sadly let down with lazy production which is unheard of for Emmerdale.
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Old 07-08-2015, 15:39
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Another question you could ask is, where was everyone else in the village who wasn't there?

It was as if only the people who attended that wedding were present throughout everything. Where were the usual extras we see in the pub or cafe?

Where was Megan, Ashley, Jai, Layla, Sam, Rachel, Paddy, Edna, Carly, Pearl, Jimmy, Priya, Rishi, Harriet and Tracy?. Realistically if these people were in the village and not invited, they would of heard the crash and came out to help

Sam is related to Debbie so why didn't he go, and if he had gone, his son and rachel would of gone as well.
I questioned this too at the time. Noah & Sam not being there was really, really weird as well. Were they really not invited?!
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Old 07-08-2015, 15:43
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I have been thinking about exactly the same things all week! Undoubtedly, absolutely thrilling episodes this week, however, all of them infuriatingly baffling and terribly disjointed! The Plane Crash episodes of 1993 were far better and considerably more understated in terms of the actual event occurring, we barely saw anything and there was no CGI whatsoever!

I set my hopes and expectations way too high and they plummeted quicker than the doomed helicopter. It's an awful shame as both the script and performances were dynamite, sadly let down with lazy production which is unheard of for Emmerdale
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Oh wow, someone feels the exact same way I do! I thought it was embarrassingly bad. I cringed. And I don't slate Emmerdale lightly. I found the wedding episode really boring too. The siege episodes had so much tension and build up and were fantastic. This just seemed random, rushed, disjointed and full of cliché.

The only thing that could possibly make it up to me, is if Pete goes back to the woods and Ross' body has disappeared... which I think will definitely happen since there is no "Goodbye Ross" & MP interview stuff coming out of the official ITV Emmerdale page.
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Old 07-08-2015, 15:47
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The hospital security guys just happening to be there annoyed me. They could easily have shown them being called in one of the fighting bits and then showing up in the next or something. Wouldn't even need to use any screen time on dialogue, a doctor/nurse could look perturbed and run for the phone in the background.
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Old 07-08-2015, 15:59
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I hated it when she woke up and she wasn't concerned about anyone else. Her kids for example?!
Now that you mention it, wasn't Sarah supposed to be in the building during the crash? If I remember right Debbie said something about Sarah wanting to see the dance and the helicopter crashed shortly after so how come Sarah was at the house with Belle?
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Old 07-08-2015, 16:31
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Something else occured to me. How did Pete's car get to the hospital? Rhona took Pete and Debbie there, and then presumably drove off, as she wasn't at the hospital later (IIRC?).
Where did Pete get the car to dispose of Ross' body?
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Old 07-08-2015, 16:31
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Why didn't David go and get Eric instead of trying to ring him. Also the emergency services telling Cain to get out and leave a child I couldn't understand that bit to be honest but was go glad when Cain decided to stay and protect the wee thing
Because he didn't know where he was which is why he rung him
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Old 07-08-2015, 16:42
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Oh wow, someone feels the exact same way I do! I thought it was embarrassingly bad. I cringed. And I don't slate Emmerdale lightly. I found the wedding episode really boring too. The siege episodes had so much tension and build up and were fantastic. This just seemed random, rushed, disjointed and full of cliché.

The only thing that could possibly make it up to me, is if Pete goes back to the woods and Ross' body has disappeared... which I think will definitely happen since there is no "Goodbye Ross" & MP interview stuff coming out of the official ITV Emmerdale page.
Yes, it's very strange and I'm not entirely convinced that KO is prepared to lose such a huge character to make paint-drying Pete seem even remotely interesting and transform him into Debbie's second apprentice killer husband!

I was looking forward to seeing the whole community unite in the face of adversity which this show clearly excels at, however, it seems that half the cast were on set during filming of the disaster and the other half were shopping in Harrogate or having a cup of tea in the green room!

Where were Bob and Brenda to serve the tea and cakes to those shaken and in terrible shock? Are they even aware that they are permanently a member of staff down?!
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