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CollieWobbles
07-08-2015
Originally Posted by All Of Me:
“The day Emmerdale jumped the shark. There would be threads galore on here if Blackburn did this calling for his head, he must be sitting back and thinking "What the hell has Kate Oates done to Emmerdale."”

BIU - No it's not.

BII - Only because he'd balls it up completely and it would be dreadful like everything else he does. Nobody minded it when Corrie did it with Jack and Vera.

BIB - Fixed it after he ruined it.

Originally Posted by BBKINGREALITY:
“I agree that ED is consistent & has great humor but there's far too many stories that are far-fetched. Tragedies happen at break neck speed; Paddy suffocates, gets shot, ross dives into a 50ft river-survives-gets accidentally killed by his brother.

Then we have an explosion which shoots a canister into a conveniently passin helicopter which crashes into a wedding. Thats just the tip of the iceberg from the last 2 years.”

It wasn't a conveniently passing random helicopter, it had been specifically booked by Pete for the wedding.
rubberduck3y6
07-08-2015
Emmerdale may be far-fetched sometimes, but it's a lot more enjoyable and engaging to watch than the dirge that Corrie has become.

This week was great with multiple storylines coming together, the stunt and the character driven scenes such as Kerry and Dan comforting Ruby, Cain coaxing Kyle to safety and Robert showing he's not a one-dimensional villain by rescuing Adam, even Pete's reaction to accidentally killing Ross.
Jack_Clinton
07-08-2015
ED has been brilliant this week, with the scrapyard fire, helicopter crash and subsequent explosions, Ross v Pete, and Eric's emotional goodbye to Val tonight.

The disaster has opened stories for various characters:

Chrissie/Robert/Lawrence - Robert and Lawrence can do what they can to stop Chrissie confessing.

Adam/Victoria/Vanessa - With Adam being caught in the scrapyard fire, his near death experience may make him re-think him being a 'father'.

Debbie/Pete - Can their relationship survive?

Cain/Pete - If Ross is found, Cain may be under suspicion.

Dan/Kerry/Ali - Dan can struggle to come to terms with Ruby's death and take out frustrations on Kerry. Ali comes back for the funeral but decides to move to Liverpool permanently.

Eric/David/Diane/Alicia - Can Val's departure lead to Alicias?

Finn - Finn is inconsolable at the loss of Val

Bob - Organises a clean up meeting.

These are all theories as the disaster opens up story potential.
Wyezed
07-08-2015
Originally Posted by All Of Me:
“The day Emmerdale jumped the shark. There would be threads galore on here if Blackburn did this calling for his head, he must be sitting back and thinking "What the hell has Kate Oates done to Emmerdale."”

Murdered it.
MavisConsuela
07-08-2015
Trisha came back as a ghost for a scene with Marlon 11 years ago so this has been done before. Vera came back for Jack in Corrie too. Not to mention Bobbie in the fridge in the mid 90s so I can't help but think it's actually 'that twitter generaton' that are making all the fuss to be honest.
sheila blige
07-08-2015
Originally Posted by Adrian_Ward1:
“No Its brilliant of late.”

No only of late! Its been better than all the others for long time now.
sheila blige
07-08-2015
Originally Posted by MavisConsuela:
“Trisha came back as a ghost for a scene with Marlon 11 years ago so this has been done before. Vera came back for Jack in Corrie too. Not to mention Bobbie in the fridge in the mid 90s so I can't help but think it's actually 'that twitter generaton' that are making all the fuss to be honest.”

As much of a Corrie fan as I am - with regard for ghosts visiting their loved ones/people imagining their loved ones still being there - I thought the Val/Eric scene was far better than the Vera/Jack scene.
Wyezed
07-08-2015
Originally Posted by MavisConsuela:
“Trisha came back as a ghost for a scene with Marlon 11 years ago so this has been done before. Vera came back for Jack in Corrie too. Not to mention Bobbie in the fridge in the mid 90s so I can't help but think it's actually 'that twitter generaton' that are making all the fuss to be honest.”

And Jack at his funeral.
Tindie_Bais
07-08-2015
Originally Posted by MavisConsuela:
“Trisha came back as a ghost for a scene with Marlon 11 years ago so this has been done before. Vera came back for Jack in Corrie too. Not to mention Bobbie in the fridge in the mid 90s so I can't help but think it's actually 'that twitter generaton' that are making all the fuss to be honest.”


Good post

Oh yeah , bobie home away , that's a blast of the past lol
Gnomsie
07-08-2015
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Agreed but I think it's a 2 horse race between Emmerdale and Eastenders this year. Both are very well written and thought out storyline and are character rather than plot driven. Corrie is completely the opposite.

I will say that Emmerdale is probably the most consistent.”

I agree with this. Emmerdale just wins it for me because I'm not a huge fan of the block storytelling in EE, but I still enjoy it and prefer both to Corrie.

I used to love Corrie, but now I only watch it if I happen to have a couple of hours free, and I'll watch the latest few episodes on catchup.
0...0
07-08-2015
Originally Posted by MavisConsuela:
“Trisha came back as a ghost for a scene with Marlon 11 years ago so this has been done before. Vera came back for Jack in Corrie too. Not to mention Bobbie in the fridge in the mid 90s so I can't help but think it's actually 'that twitter generaton' that are making all the fuss to be honest.”

Bobbie!

I would like Carl King to haunt Chas from her toaster.
sheila blige
07-08-2015
Originally Posted by BBKINGREALITY:
“Then we have an explosion which shoots a canister into a conveniently passing helicopter which crashes into a wedding. Thats just the tip of the iceberg from the last 2 years.”

It wasn't conveniently passing though was it - it was on its way to the venue - hired by Pete to whisk him and his bride to their honeymoon. The only thing I could find puzzling is where did he get the money from - farming must be an incredibly financially rewarding business to be in (indeed - in any soap - where the hell do they get the money from for all the outrageous things they buy?)
Littlegreen42
07-08-2015
I think this week has shown up the other soaps.

It had the massive stunt, but the most gripping parts were brought to the screen due to the writing and actors involved.

Incredible week.
Cheekymonkey09
07-08-2015
Originally Posted by Littlegreen42:
“I think this week has shown up the other soaps.

It had the massive stunt, but the most gripping parts were brought to the screen due to the writing and actors involved.

Incredible week.”

Exactly, you can have all the explosions and special effects but if you don't have the best writing, interwoven storylines and acting talent on display, then it all boils down to nothing really.

ED provided the acting and writing as a solid foundation for the extras which was the helicopter and explosions etc.
VM123
07-08-2015
There were some parts that I felt didn't add up but overall I've enjoyed Emmerdale this week. Its been gripping and many of the actors have done really well. Particularly enjoyed vals exit and ruby with Dan and Kerry.
Flukie
07-08-2015
Originally Posted by BBKINGREALITY:
“I agree that ED is consistent & has great humor but there's far too many stories that are far-fetched. Tragedies happen at break neck speed; Paddy suffocates, gets shot, ross dives into a 50ft river-survives-gets accidentally killed by his brother.

Then we have an explosion which shoots a canister into a conveniently passin helicopter which crashes into a wedding. Thats just the tip of the iceberg from the last 2 years.”

The canister hitting the helicopter was hilariously far-fetched. Miles and miles of empty sky and a tiny canister hits a passing helicopter dead on.

And of course, with a whole village to fall on, or even acres and acres of empty fields, it zeroes right in on the one tiny spot a whole group of people are gathered.

How can anyone take it seriously?! That one scene is just classic farce comedy.

This woman isn't related to Bryan Kirkwood is she? They think the same.
ForGodsSake
07-08-2015
Fantastic stuff.
Long may it continue !
Danny_Francis
07-08-2015
It's ironic how Emmerdale continues to be lavishly praised as 'outstanding' lately yes it has been fantastic at times (as per usual) but it has been better in the past and been overlooked. I do think, the show is losing its identity and roots but fortunately it's not too far removed from what it should be about. Sensationalism ED does remarkably well, but it tells compelling everyday stories all year round.
Danny_Francis
07-08-2015
Originally Posted by sheila blige:
“No only of late! Its been better than all the others for long time now.”

Exactly my point
All Of Me
07-08-2015
[quote=CollieWobbles;79202486]BIU - No it's not.

BII - Only because he'd balls it up completely and it would be dreadful like everything else he does. Nobody minded it when Corrie did it with Jack and Vera.

BIB - Fixed it after he ruined it.

I could accept val briefly coming back from the dead. If it was a short scene but no it went on for ages.

Blackburn did wonders with Emmerdale he treated the show with respect he knew what would work and what wouldn't. Kate Oates is only interested in turning Emmerdale into Fair City with non stop crime she's desperate for a BAFTA nomination she will try anything I mean what next Aliens having a drink in the WoolPack?
notdebbiedingle
07-08-2015
I will make only one Corrie comparison since the only ED epidode I watched was the actual stunt night on tuesday & that is if ANY actress on Corrie had put in the performance the woman playing the Chrissie character did that night they would have been mocked, villified & the P*ss taken out of them for the next month!! It was truly horrendous, straight out of the Maisie Wylde school of excrutiating overacting from a few years ago!!
Beyond that I will comment no further since I am not a regular ED watcher!!
square_eyes
07-08-2015
Emmerdale does like it's big epic disasters, but the episodes in between are brilliantly crafted and characters & stories interlinked. They've assembled a great ensemble case, there is always pace with the show and something is always going on.

I think its time to transfer Kate Oates to Corrie. It needs some depth and pace injecting into it, you can go weeks without anything of significance happening.
Glendarroch
07-08-2015
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CollieWobbles
08-08-2015
Originally Posted by Flukie:
“The canister hitting the helicopter was hilariously far-fetched. Miles and miles of empty sky and a tiny canister hits a passing helicopter dead on.

And of course, with a whole village to fall on, or even acres and acres of empty fields, it zeroes right in on the one tiny spot a whole group of people are gathered.

How can anyone take it seriously?! That one scene is just classic farce comedy.

This woman isn't related to Bryan Kirkwood is she? They think the same.”

It could happen, perhaps it's not likely to but it could. How many times do you say something like 'of all the space/ places/ things it had to land/ be there/ that' because something has somehow managed to go somewhere that is the worst and most improbable place it could.

[quote=All Of Me;79203179]
Originally Posted by CollieWobbles:
“BIU - No it's not.

BII - Only because he'd balls it up completely and it would be dreadful like everything else he does. Nobody minded it when Corrie did it with Jack and Vera.

BIB - Fixed it after he ruined it.

I could accept val briefly coming back from the dead. If it was a short scene but no it went on for ages.

Blackburn did wonders with Emmerdale he treated the show with respect he knew what would work and what wouldn't. Kate Oates is only interested in turning Emmerdale into Fair City with non stop crime she's desperate for a BAFTA nomination she will try anything I mean what next Aliens having a drink in the WoolPack?”

Yes he did such wonders and treated it with so much respect he almost ran it into the ground, just like he's doing to Corrie. He most certainly did not know what would and wouldn't work for the show, if he did he wouldn't have removed the rich family from the big house, split all the characters into their own tiny little group with barely any interaction with anyone else so it lost its village community feel, altered characters completely just to make them fit his badly thought out, badly put together, badly made stories, completely ruined the local village vicar, bought in a dreadful family that was more sink estate than yorkshire village, killed off one of the best male characters after completely ruining him just for sensationalism, I could go on...and on. Did wonders for it my arse, ripped it apart at the seams more like. Kate Oates did the wonders, putting it back together again afterwards, which must have been a bloody mammoth task.
CollieWobbles
08-08-2015
Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“Emmerdale does like it's big epic disasters, but the episodes in between are brilliantly crafted and characters & stories interlinked. They've assembled a great ensemble case, there is always pace with the show and something is always going on.

I think its time to transfer Kate Oates to Corrie. It needs some depth and pace injecting into it, you can go weeks without anything of significance happening.”

Why the hell should ED suffer and lose its highly competent producer that is making the show unmissable just to improve Corrie? Bollocks to Corrie, ITV shouldn't have put an incompetent idiot in charge, but they did so tough tits- they can bloody well live with it.
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