ED has gone beyond ridiculous

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Glendarroch

08-08-2015

Originally Posted by ianradioian:
“I agree with other posters regarding the pacing too. It's break-neck speed and needs slowing down. It's been like this since Cain had his headaches/braintumour/operation/recovery/ forgotten all about.....Over about 4 days worth of episodes!”

Cain had an aneurysm which was about to rupture.The operation was done through keyhole surgery. Once its done and the rupture is prevented recovery time is extremely quick.

Originally Posted by sheila blige:
“It wasn't conveniently passing though was it - it was on its way to the venue - hired by Pete to whisk him and his bride to their honeymoon. The only thing I could find puzzling is where did he get the money from - farming must be an incredibly financially rewarding business to be in (indeed - in any soap - where the hell do they get the money from for all the outrageous things they buy?)”

credit card? savings? Same place as people get the money to spend thousands on their kids' prom

He wasn't hiring it for the day, just an hour or so surely. He probably maxed out a credit card (or two)

Originally Posted by Cheekymonkey09:
“Exactly, you can have all the explosions and special effects but if you don't have the best writing, interwoven storylines and acting talent on display, then it all boils down to nothing really.

ED provided the acting and writing as a solid foundation for the extras which was the helicopter and explosions etc.”

exactly

[quote=Flukie;79202965]The canister hitting the helicopter was hilariously far-fetched. Miles and miles of empty sky and a tiny canister hits a passing helicopter

You could use the 'improbability' argument with a lot of stunts surely? What was the chance of a tram derailing and hitting Coronation St? Or a plane hitting Beckindale? In reality what were the chances of a helicopter crashing into a crowded pub? Or the plane hitting the small town of Lockerbie, not the surrounding countryside? That's partly why these incidents are so tragic and shocking - they're highly unlikely to happen. but sometimed they do.

dd68

08-08-2015

I think it's a programme at the top of it's game

All Of Me

08-08-2015

Originally Posted by CollieWobbles:
“
Yes he did such wonders and treated it with so much respect he almost ran it into the ground, just like he's doing to Corrie. He most certainly did not know what would and wouldn't work for the show, if he did he wouldn't have removed the rich family from the big house, split all the characters into their own tiny little group with barely any interaction with anyone else so it lost its village community feel, altered characters completely just to make them fit his badly thought out, badly put together, badly made stories, completely ruined the local village vicar, bought in a dreadful family that was more sink estate than yorkshire village, killed off one of the best male characters after completely ruining him just for sensationalism, I could go on...and on. Did wonders for it my arse, ripped it apart at the seams more like. Kate Oates did the wonders, putting it back together again afterwards, which must have been a bloody mammoth task.”

You're exaggerating most episodes produced by Blackburn were over 7 million and the aftermath of Cameron killing Carl were over 7 million too. None of Kate Oates own storylines have reached the same amount of millions that Blackburn's did she only got the job because Blackburn was offered the Corrie job and took it he was meant to stay for another year Emmerdales loss is Corrie's gain.

eastendersboi

08-08-2015

Originally Posted by BBKINGREALITY:
“Its just 1 contrived disaster after another, I don't even 'feel' anythin anymore for these stories.. Its gone beyond the point of reality, there's no balance. Corrie & EE have their flaws but they feel more grounded than ED. Why is every1 praisin Katie Oates?. ED seriously needs strippin back to the village farm life it once was ..”

Is it so difficult to let the soap enjoy it's moment to shine, most people that watched it this week loved it.

square_eyes

08-08-2015

Originally Posted by All Of Me:
“You're exaggerating most episodes produced by Blackburn were over 7 million and the aftermath of Cameron killing Carl were over 7 million too. None of Kate Oates own storylines have reached the same amount of millions that Blackburn's did she only got the job because Blackburn was offered the Corrie job and took it he was meant to stay for another year Emmerdales loss is Corrie's gain.”

Soap viewing has declined across the board. I'd argue that Corrie's viewing figures in the Blackburn era have declined more quickly than Emmerdale's.

dd68

08-08-2015

Hope you enjoy the new shows you watch

All Of Me

08-08-2015

Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“Soap viewing has declined across the board. I'd argue that Corrie's viewing figures in the Blackburn era have declined more quickly than Emmerdale's.”

You would be wrong then wouldn't you.

JohnMc1

08-08-2015

I do think they have become too disaster heavy to the point where they are relying on it like a crutch. The sad thing is that some of those character moments were so wonderfully done that if Oates and the writers can bother to write character dialogue like that without having to have an outlandish disaster or stunt the show would be so much better than it is.

Deschanel

08-08-2015

Originally Posted by BBKINGREALITY:
“Tragedies happen at break neck speed; Paddy suffocates, gets shot, ross dives into a 50ft river-survives-gets accidentally killed by his brother.

Then we have an explosion which shoots a canister into a conveniently passin helicopter which crashes into a wedding. Thats just the tip of the iceberg from the last 2 years.”

I assume you (and many others) don't know this, but, the stunt was ITV's idea, and one that was put into motion in the last few months. ITV told KO to speed up the storylines by a month, which is why Paddy was in two near-death situations in the space of a week. KO did an interview with GMB where she basically said all of this.

So really, criticism of the pacing should be directed at ITV.

I do think KO has tried to ground the stunt as much as possible. I thought the Diane/Val scenes were awesome, and so were the Eric/Ghost Val scenes, which were all well written and full of emotion. Ruby's death could have been quick, but by making it a slow death, it was able to pack more an emotional punch, and develop Kerry's character, too. They made me care for a character who I had never cared about for the 4 years she was on the show.

There was aspects of the stunt that were cliché and predictable, and the stunt wasn't really necessary, but I blame that on ITV. The mirror maze scenes more than made up for the short comings of the chopper stunt.

People are comparing ED to Hollyoaks, but if this was HO, there would be no aftermath at all; no drawn out emotional scenes; no investment in characters; just a hollow stunt.

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