all excluding HD & +1
Keep It in the Family: 2.34m (15.3%)
The Saturday Night Story: 2.02m (11.8%)
FILM: The Bourne Supremacy (2004): 1.19m (7.1%)

Not as bad for The Saturday Night Story as I had thought.

exc +1
Great Canal Journeys: 0.73m (4.8%)
Walking through History (r): 0.78m (4.6%)
FILM: Red (2010): 1.16m (7.0%)

exc +1
The Nightmare Neighbour Next Door (r): 0.63m (4.1%)
Can't Pay? We'll Take it Away! (r): 0.82m (4.8%)
Football League Tonight: 0.58m (3.3%)
* practically identical rating to last week (0.58m/3.4%)

BBC Three's top show starting between 19:00 and 23:00 was a Top Gear repeat at 20:15 with 0.45m (2.6%). BBC Four's best was a repeat of The Young Montalbano which averaged 0.49m (2.9%) between 21:00 and 22:50. Top of the Pops 1978: Big Hits followed with 0.28m (2.5%).

The 1998 movie Practical Magic claimed 0.36m (2.2%) excluding +1 from 21:00 on ITV2.

Thanks Neil.

S should be about 2.8m for KIITF and 2.4m for TSNS. Compared with how lower their recent 9pm weekday offerings are I would say that is respectable.

Last week for KIITF:

ITV SD: 2.59m (17.4%)
ITV SD+HD: 2.77m (18.6%)
ITV Total inc HD: 2.90m (19.5%)

Only 6.5% (exc +1) watched in HD* last week (well below the average, perhaps due to a downmarket skew). The +1 was 130k. If these are repeated it suggests that last night's will turn out to be 2.5m excluding +1, 2.6m including it. The ITV SD figures are down -10% in volume and -12% in share on last week.

The Cube last week had a 10% HD component and 150k on +1; the Bourne film had 16% HD. If I had to guess I'd say TSNS would be 8% HD, which would imply 2.2m / 2.3m-2.4m (exc/inc +1). Probably 1.4m / 1.5m for Bourne.

Stephen Colbert starts his run as host of The Late Show on Tuesday 8th September on CBS

How do you think he will rate in the long term For them

What did Indiana Jones get last night ? Bet it's still got a good share despite it must of been its 175th showing on BBC1 in the last 15 years

I don't have that rating, but I can tell you it's been shown six times on BBC One since 1 January 2006, and all of those since May 2008. It always tends to rate well, as you say.

Sign of the (ITV) Times that these sub 3mil figures would be seen as respectable. Are they though? Should a commercial channel really be satisfied with shows that are barely watched, just a little less barely watched than their cheap factual output?

You can be sure KIITF isn't a cheap show. I just worry that they'll axe it and replace it with yet more cheap filler.

From Broadcast mag's top 50 non-PSB multichannels overnights chart for week ending 9 August:

1 - Sun 15:30, Sky Sports 1 - Live Ford Super Sunday: 1,252,000 (10.7%)
2 - Sat 17:00, Sky Sports 1 - Live Ford Saturday Night Football: 816,700 (6.5%)
3 - Sat 12:00, BT Sport 1 - Live Manchester United v Tottenham: 611,300 (9.2%)
4 - Fri 13:30, Sky Sports 2 - Live Cricket - The Ashes: 571,100 (6.6%)
9 - Sat 12:00, Sky Sports News HQ - Gillette Soccer Saturday: 351,900 (4.6%)
15 - Fri 13:00, Sky Sports 2 - Shane Warne - Living the Dream: 298,400 (4.6%)
20 - Sun 18:45, BT Sport 2 - Live MotoGP - Indianapolis: 262,400 (1.6%)
26 - Wed 19:30, Sky Sports 1 - Live International Champions Cup: 224,400 (1.1%)
27 - Sat 12:00, Sky Sports 1 - Live Championship: 221,900 (3.3%)
34 - Thu 20:00, Sky Sports 2 - Cricket: The Ashes: 201,100 (1.1%)
46 - Thu 21:00, Sky Sports 2 - The Ashes - Verdict: 180,800 (1.0%)

Bear in mind that multichannels are never tape-checked, and so these are the ratings for the scheduled slots, not taking into account over- or under-runs.

DS report is up. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade averaged a healthy 3.34m (22.5%).

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...plwL1Fz8anbcVP

Very solid for Indiana Jones. Did we ever get a figure for it last week?

The share they've given for Keep it in The Family is wrong. 2.65m with HD suggests a slightly higher HD component than last week and that it was approx 2.8m (18%) with +1. Could certainly be worse. Probably around 2.4/2.5m (14/15%) for The Saturday Night Story.

ITV LE is in a total mess outside of the big three( TXF, which is in decline as well, IAC and BGT). KIITF is yet another sub 3 million flop that joins the disastrous Celebrity Squares revival, Harry Hill's abysmal revival of SITE, YFSF, Flockstars and BBQ Champ. I know BBC LE isn't much better, but it's not as big a deal to them as ITV.
ITV probably now is praying for the autumn and I think this autumn will be very strong for them. I reckon with DA's new series being the last this could jump to 10 million.

But Jeremy Kyle is on all year round including lots of repeats. It's on repeats at the moment. Why could they not launch new shows in that 9.25am slot, one of ITV's best in daytime, which would do better than if launched elsewhere? It's exactly the same argument. And they show far more episodes of Kyle in a week - not just on ITV1, on ITV2 as well - than the Beeb do of Pointless.

As for repeats doing better on the BBC than ITV I don't think there's any evidence to that whatsoever. Repeats of The Chase and Tipping Point do perfectly alright for ITV in daytime. Fake or Fortune is doing alright as repeats but ITV is absolutely bloody awful opposite it. There are umpteen examples of repeats doing poorly on BBC1 and doing OK on ITV, we were talking the other day about Vera repeating well, whereas BBC1's Call the Midwife repeat run the other year did so badly it was abandoned mid-run.


But why do they need to keep Nick Grimshaw happy and not offend him? If he's doing so badly everywhere he goes, why do the BBC want to keep him? You don't hang around on the Radio 1 breakfast show for three years if you're dying on your arse and everyone hates you. You might keep him there for a year to prove a point, but not three.

It's like Mark and Lard on the Radio 1 breakfast show, when they were put there it was really quite important because they were very distinctive and illustrated that Radio 1 was different to all the commerical stations. Matthew Bannister even convinced them to do it by saying it was important for them to illustrate what Radio 1 could be, rather than having to go with "a much straighter show". Politically it was important - they played a lot of new records, it was a regional show, they got a lot of critical acclaim - to keep them on there. And the ratings were so bad they got rid of them after eight months and said they tried them there and the audience didn't want it. It's the same principle here, Grimshaw ticks boxes - he skews young and so on - but they don't persist with these things if it's clear the audience doesn't want it.

And his show is still the second biggest radio show in Britain, it is very, very successful. Yes, he gets a smaller audience than Moyles did but Moyles wasn't generally competing against Radio 2 which under Wogan skewed very old and now under Evans skews younger. Kids listen to Evans, they would never listen to Wogan. And even in the middle of nowhere there are big national brands like Capital and Heart.

Grimshaw doesn't get telly work to promote his radio show, he gets telly work because his radio show is so big. And a panel show on BBC3 and a once a year appearance on Children in Need is hardly ramming him down the public's throat. If the Beeb were desperate to promote him he'd be on primetime television all the time.


They expect exactly what they got. If they don't promote a programme it's because they don't think they're very good and want to get them out quietly, the same reason film companies don't arrange preview screenings of crap films. Clearly the Beeb aren't happy with it but they've made it now so they have to show it, but they don't want to shout about it.


Also as well there will be more viewers who watched the simulcast on Sky Sports 5, which they're doing for all Saturday lunchtime games. So add another half dozen or so onto that.

Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom made #74 in Broadcast mag's top 100 overnights for the week, with 2.49m (17.5%). Probably my favourite of the franchise, but clearly my view is not widely shared.

They have also been shown regularly on BBC3 as well I believe.

Yes, the share should be more like 17.3% inc HD, exc +1. The HD component was up, as you say, from 6.5% to 11.7%. A similar proportion (just over twelve per cent) of The Saturday Night Story's audience watched in HD.

Yes, eleven showings of Temple of Doom on Three since March 2008 (6 on BBC One), plus six of Last Crusade.

In total, 18 screenings of the franchise on One since March 2008; thirty-two on Three.

Interesting that they are still repeating Top Gear. Normally when someone is sacked and especially when they sign for a rival, they become persona non grata and are never spoken of again.

On the other hand considering it is one of BBC Three's highest rating shows and the channel is just counting down the days before it closes down then maybe it isn't so much of a surprise.

17 August 1985
ULTRA QUIZ '85 (ITV, 19:50) 9.33m
FILM : RAISE THE TITANIC (Repeat) (ITV, 21:07) 8.51m
ARE YOU BEING SERVED? (Repeat) (BBC1, 20:40) 8.02m
BOTTLE BOYS (ITV, 19:20) 7.54m
FILM : SOMETHING BIG (Repeat) (BBC1, 18:56) 6.91m
SHOGUN (Repeat) (BBC1, 21:29) 6.17m
EUROPA CUP ATHLETICS (BBC1, 23:10) 5.0m
KELLY'S EYE (Most ITV, 18:35) 4.73m
ANYTHING GOES (BBC1, 18:10) 3.95m
Ratings for news bulletins not known

16 August 1986
SUMMERTIME SPECIAL (ITV, 19:34) 9.96m
ALL STAR SECRETS (ITV, 20:35) 9.52m
WE LOVE TV (ITV, 19:05) 9.37m
FILM : ESCAPE FROM ALCATRAZ (Repeat) (ITV, 21:22) 9.29m
AND THERE'S MORE CRICKET (ITV, 18:37) 8.75m
FILM : THE TRAIN ROBBERS (Repeat) (BBC1, 19:32) 7.99m
THE GRUMBLEWEEDS SHOW (ITV, 18:05 or 17:05) 7.38m
JOHN SILVER'S RETURN TO TREASURE ISLAND (ITV, 17:05 or 17:35) 6.74m
SORRY! (Repeat) (BBC1, 19:01) 6.62m
STANLEY BAXTER'S CHRISTMAS HAMPER (Repeat) (BBC1, 21:21) 5.59m
THE DUKES OF HAZZARD (U.S.) (BBC1, 18:11) 5.07m
Ratings for news bulletins not known

15 August 1987
NEWS (ITV, 21:15) 12.4m
TALES OF THE UNEXPECTED (Repeat) (ITV, 21:30) 10.95m
FILM : CARRY ON CRUISING (Repeat) (BBC1, 18:35) 9.15m
SUMMERTIME SPECIAL (ITV, 20:15) 9.1m
MIAMI VICE (U.S.) (BBC1, 22:05) 7.95m
FAMILY FORTUNES (ITV, 19:45) 7.6m
SEASIDE SPECIAL '87 (BBC1, 20:00) 7.5m
CHAMPION BLOCKBUSTERS (ITV, 17:45) 7.4m
NEWS, SPORT & WEATHER (BBC1, 21:50) 7.3m
THE FUNNY SIDE (ITV, 19:00) 6.4m
FIVE ALIVE (ITV, 18:30) 5.1m
BLUEBELL (Repeat) (BBC1, 20:50) 5.1m
TOM AND JERRY (U.S.) (Repeat) (BBC1, 17:05) 5.0m
FILM : COMING HOME (Repeat) (ITV, 22:00) 4.9m
MONTY PYTHON'S FLYING CIRCUS (Repeat) (BBC1, 22:50) 4.7m
DOUG HENNING'S WORLD OF MAGIC (U.S.) (ITV, 17:05) 4.2m

20 August 1988
FILM : CARRY ON GIRLS (Repeat) (BBC1, 18:40) 11.1m
NEWS (ITV, 21:04) 10.15m
MICHAEL BARRYMORE'S SATURDAY NIGHT OUT (BBC1, 20:10) 9.7m
TV FILM : QUINCY - WHO'S WHO IN NEVERLAND? (U.S.) (Repeat) (ITV, 21:20) 9.55m
CHAMPION BLOCKBUSTERS (ITV, 18:10) 8.1m
CAGNEY AND LACEY (U.S.) (BBC1, 21:00) 7.3m
SUMMERTIME SPECIAL (ITV, 20:00) 7.3m
THE FLYING DOCTORS (Australia) (BBC1, 17:55) 6.9m
NEWS, SPORT & WEATHER (BBC1, 21:50) 6.5m
TARBY'S FRAME GAME (ITV, 19:30) 6.3m
CUE GARY! (ITV, 17:40) 6.1m
THE KATE ROBBINS SHOW (ITV, 19:00) 5.9m
FIRST CLASS (BBC1, 17:30) 5.4m
CALL ME MISTER (Repeat) (BBC1, 22:05) 5.0m
MATCH OF THE DAY : F.A. CHARITY SHIELD (BBC1, 23:00) 4.2m

19 August 1989
NEWS, SPORT & WEATHER (BBC1, 21:05) 10.54m
CASUALTY (Repeat) (BBC1, 21:20) 9.33m
MICHAEL BARRYMORE'S SATURDAY NIGHT OUT (BBC1, 19:05) 8.67m
TV FILM : COLUMBO - BLUEPRINT FOR MURDER (U.S.) (Repeat) (BBC1, 19:50) 8.53m
THE BEST OF CARROTT CONFIDENTIAL (BBC1, 22:10) 7.47m
THAT'S SHOWBUSINESS (BBC1, 18:35) 7.04m
MACGYVER (U.S.) (BBC1, 17:45) 7.02m
ROLF HARRIS CARTOON TIME (BBC1, 17:20) 6.0m
TV FILM : QUINCY - HOT ICE, COLD HEARTS (U.S.) (Repeat) (Most ITV, 19:40) 5.69m
MURDER WEEKEND (ITV, 21:00) 5.65m
CHAMPION BLOCKBUSTERS (ITV, 18:20) 5.4m
BEADLE'S BOX OF TRICKS (ITV, 19:10) 5.3m
THE TROUBLE WITH MICHAEL CAINE (Repeat) (ITV, 22:20) 3.7m
FILM : RUN, CHRISSIE, RUN! (Australia) (Repeat) (BBC2, 21:05) 3.7m
NEWS (ITV, 21:30) 3.4m
THE INCREDIBLE HULK (U.S.) (Repeat) (ITV, 17:25) 3.3m

Ray Tings is really providing some excellent ratings and is like a breath of fresh air on here. It's interesting what is generally regarded as the worst sitcom of all time( Bottle Boys) was achieving 7 million viewers, respectable for a summer's night in the eighties, and was actually on its second series in 1985.

Thanks. Interesting that one did worse than the other two, in share as well as total audience (although the share still isn't that bad). I think it probably is considered the weakest of the original three.

I would say they are respectable as compared to the other commercial channels.The figures are 4 or 5 times what the other two are getting,which is what is important to ITV.

Agreed, ITV have been getting figures like this on Saturday's in the Summer for years now.

Not a lot of difference between now and 2010: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=2972