Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“It was head-to-head with Emmerdale.”
“It was head-to-head with Emmerdale.”
Ah ok thanks.
The Ratings Thread (Part 65)
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Awful rating for for Deal or No Deal, but it was a repeat. You'd think they could have made some new celebrity editions. They'd probably do better than Celebrity Fifteen To One, yet they keep making those.
Pretty poor for EastEnders. These clashes do seem to hit it hard. Not sure Emmerdale will have done well either though given it was out of slot.
Pretty poor for EastEnders. These clashes do seem to hit it hard. Not sure Emmerdale will have done well either though given it was out of slot.
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Good start for Strictly, great for Gogglebox too, obviously surged quite a fair amount from the last week against the opening rugby match.
Eastenders.... was there a clash? That looks painfully low.”
“Good start for Strictly, great for Gogglebox too, obviously surged quite a fair amount from the last week against the opening rugby match.
Eastenders.... was there a clash? That looks painfully low.”
It went Emmerdale, Corrie, Emmerdale, Corrie last night with Eastenders facing Emmerdale in a Corrie sandwich.
Originally Posted by Score:
“Awful rating for for Deal or No Deal, but it was a repeat. You'd think they could have made some new celebrity editions. They'd probably do better than Celebrity Fifteen To One, yet they keep making those.
Pretty poor for EastEnders. These clashes do seem to hit it hard. Not sure Emmerdale will have done well either though given it was out of slot.”
“Awful rating for for Deal or No Deal, but it was a repeat. You'd think they could have made some new celebrity editions. They'd probably do better than Celebrity Fifteen To One, yet they keep making those.
Pretty poor for EastEnders. These clashes do seem to hit it hard. Not sure Emmerdale will have done well either though given it was out of slot.”
What in between 2 Corrie eps.?
I found Eastenders awful last night. The Lucy storyline has just dragged and dragged and became draining to watch along with Ronnie's many problems. A bit of normality (a bit) in corrie comes as a somewhat relief come 8:30..
Originally Posted by Straker:
“Are the two Youtube clips shows back to back between 7 and 9 on C5 evidence of Viacom's new broom? Rip-off Rude Tube if you must but two consecutive shows on prime time Saturday night just speaks to a gigantic poverty of imagination. Unoriginal telly, badly scheduled and no doubt put together on a shoe-string. Another triumph from 5.”
“Are the two Youtube clips shows back to back between 7 and 9 on C5 evidence of Viacom's new broom? Rip-off Rude Tube if you must but two consecutive shows on prime time Saturday night just speaks to a gigantic poverty of imagination. Unoriginal telly, badly scheduled and no doubt put together on a shoe-string. Another triumph from 5.”
They're not going to schedule something epic up against Strictly on BBC One and England v Wales rugby on ITV. I get the feeling you'd be unhappy with whatever they put in that slot, simply because it's C5.
Good start for Strictly. Up comfortably on last year's clash-hit rating and in line with previous years. Tonight will be interesting as it shifts earlier to avoid the rugby. It'll probably still manage 8m, but it does mean Doctor Who has been thrown to the wolves.
It's interesting to me how hard EastEnders gets hit in these clashes. The talent show clashes get a lot of attention but generally they tend to hold up much better in clashes than EastEnders. Surely it must be of some concern that whenever ITV offer up something of substance against EastEnders its audience crumbles to such a mediocre level? It seems to happen with Emmerdale, football etc. I get it with BGT week as that show is massive and dominant, but often were talking stuff that gets 6m or so against it, so hardly behemoths, yet EE just seems to wilt.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Another 8pm screening of Emmerdale happened.
*shrugs* You reap what you sow.”
“Another 8pm screening of Emmerdale happened.
*shrugs* You reap what you sow.”
It's interesting to me how hard EastEnders gets hit in these clashes. The talent show clashes get a lot of attention but generally they tend to hold up much better in clashes than EastEnders. Surely it must be of some concern that whenever ITV offer up something of substance against EastEnders its audience crumbles to such a mediocre level? It seems to happen with Emmerdale, football etc. I get it with BGT week as that show is massive and dominant, but often were talking stuff that gets 6m or so against it, so hardly behemoths, yet EE just seems to wilt.
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“What in between 2 Corrie eps.?”
“What in between 2 Corrie eps.?”
That will certainly have helped. It depends how much of an overlap there is between Emmerdale and Corrie I guess. Probably quite a lot in fairness. But EE was in its regular slot and Emmerdale was not, which does stir the pot a bit.
It just surprises me as I'm not sure how much of an overlap there is between EastEnders and Emmerdale. Certainly the age demographics are quite different for the two.
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“It was head-to-head with Emmerdale.”
“It was head-to-head with Emmerdale.”
Its unfortunate that Eastenders is simply not strong enough these days to hold its audience against these frequent Emmerdale clashes in what was yet another soapfest on ITV last night-which is just going to make ITV look out for them all the more- any damage to ED is an acceptable outcome. Not sure what the Beeb can do other than moving EE each time which potentially disrupts other shows such as Holby on Tuesdays.
Originally Posted by Score:
“Good start for Strictly. Up comfortably on last year's clash-hit rating and in line with previous years. Tonight will be interesting as it shifts earlier to avoid the rugby. It'll probably still manage 8m, but it does mean Doctor Who has been thrown to the wolves.
It's interesting to me how hard EastEnders gets hit in these clashes. The talent show clashes get a lot of attention but generally they tend to hold up much better in clashes than EastEnders. Surely it must be of some concern that whenever ITV offer up something of substance against EastEnders its audience crumbles to such a mediocre level? It seems to happen with Emmerdale, football etc. I get it with BGT week as that show is massive and dominant, but often were talking stuff that gets 6m or so against it, so hardly behemoths, yet EE just seems to wilt.”
“Good start for Strictly. Up comfortably on last year's clash-hit rating and in line with previous years. Tonight will be interesting as it shifts earlier to avoid the rugby. It'll probably still manage 8m, but it does mean Doctor Who has been thrown to the wolves.
It's interesting to me how hard EastEnders gets hit in these clashes. The talent show clashes get a lot of attention but generally they tend to hold up much better in clashes than EastEnders. Surely it must be of some concern that whenever ITV offer up something of substance against EastEnders its audience crumbles to such a mediocre level? It seems to happen with Emmerdale, football etc. I get it with BGT week as that show is massive and dominant, but often were talking stuff that gets 6m or so against it, so hardly behemoths, yet EE just seems to wilt.”
The EE viewers use catch up and BBC3
I would however reacted to ITVs stupid soap clash by having SCD at 8 pm and EE after it.
soap ratings here
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s3...ppnHhGfqle66ZW
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s3...ppnHhGfqle66ZW
Emmerdale
5.61m (33.1%) at 7pm and 140k (0.7%) on +1
5.12m (25.5%) at 8pm and 318k (1.5%) on +1
Corrie
6.91m (36.8%) at 7.30pm and 227k (1.1%) on +1
6.63m (32.9%) at 8.30pm and 271k (1.3%) on +1
5.61m (33.1%) at 7pm and 140k (0.7%) on +1
5.12m (25.5%) at 8pm and 318k (1.5%) on +1
Corrie
6.91m (36.8%) at 7.30pm and 227k (1.1%) on +1
6.63m (32.9%) at 8.30pm and 271k (1.3%) on +1
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Its unfortunate that Eastenders is simply not strong enough these days to hold its audience against these frequent Emmerdale clashes in what was yet another soapfest on ITV last night-hich is just going to make ITV look out for them all the more- any damage to ED is an acceptable outcome. Not sure what the Beeb can do other than moving EE each time which potentially disrupts other shows such as Holby on Tuesdays.”
“Its unfortunate that Eastenders is simply not strong enough these days to hold its audience against these frequent Emmerdale clashes in what was yet another soapfest on ITV last night-hich is just going to make ITV look out for them all the more- any damage to ED is an acceptable outcome. Not sure what the Beeb can do other than moving EE each time which potentially disrupts other shows such as Holby on Tuesdays.”
Considering that Friday night is usually Eastenders weakest of the week, it looks like it held up better than I thought that it would do.
Looking at the soap figures, Corrie doesnt look like it held on to any of its Live episode boost. That is more concerning than Eastenders dropping to its regular 22% clash audience.
Originally Posted by omnidirectional:
“They're not going to schedule something epic up against Strictly on BBC One and England v Wales rugby on ITV. I get the feeling you'd be unhappy with whatever they put in that slot, simply because it's C5.”
“They're not going to schedule something epic up against Strictly on BBC One and England v Wales rugby on ITV. I get the feeling you'd be unhappy with whatever they put in that slot, simply because it's C5.”
Could they not have taken advantage of no X Factor and ran a block of Lip Sync Battle repeats?
Might have done better than what looks like their answer to You've Been Framed!, which isn't really peak time Saturday viewing IMO.
Originally Posted by Score:
“That will certainly have helped. It depends how much of an overlap there is between Emmerdale and Corrie I guess. Probably quite a lot in fairness. But EE was in its regular slot and Emmerdale was not, which does stir the pot a bit.
It just surprises me as I'm not sure how much of an overlap there is between EastEnders and Emmerdale. Certainly the age demographics are quite different for the two.”
“That will certainly have helped. It depends how much of an overlap there is between Emmerdale and Corrie I guess. Probably quite a lot in fairness. But EE was in its regular slot and Emmerdale was not, which does stir the pot a bit.
It just surprises me as I'm not sure how much of an overlap there is between EastEnders and Emmerdale. Certainly the age demographics are quite different for the two.”
There is always an overlap between soaps in clashes. We've seen EastEnders take a tumble for several years in soap clashes. EastEnders isn't strong enough to gold up to them. But it's not very must see at the moment.
5.44m for the second Emmerdale. Didn't take much of a hit really, when comparing it to the regular episode at 7pm.
Wonder how low Life Stories was? Up against Strictly and with an unpopular guest anyway I'm thinking below 2m.
Wonder how low Life Stories was? Up against Strictly and with an unpopular guest anyway I'm thinking below 2m.
ITV's tactic to decimate EE's as well as DTC's ridiculous block storylines have contributed to its demise.
Originally Posted by Score:
“Good start for Strictly. Up comfortably on last year's clash-hit rating and in line with previous years. Tonight will be interesting as it shifts earlier to avoid the rugby. It'll probably still manage 8m, but it does mean Doctor Who has been thrown to the wolves.
It's interesting to me how hard EastEnders gets hit in these clashes. The talent show clashes get a lot of attention but generally they tend to hold up much better in clashes than EastEnders. Surely it must be of some concern that whenever ITV offer up something of substance against EastEnders its audience crumbles to such a mediocre level? It seems to happen with Emmerdale, football etc. I get it with BGT week as that show is massive and dominant, but often were talking stuff that gets 6m or so against it, so hardly behemoths, yet EE just seems to wilt.”
“Good start for Strictly. Up comfortably on last year's clash-hit rating and in line with previous years. Tonight will be interesting as it shifts earlier to avoid the rugby. It'll probably still manage 8m, but it does mean Doctor Who has been thrown to the wolves.
It's interesting to me how hard EastEnders gets hit in these clashes. The talent show clashes get a lot of attention but generally they tend to hold up much better in clashes than EastEnders. Surely it must be of some concern that whenever ITV offer up something of substance against EastEnders its audience crumbles to such a mediocre level? It seems to happen with Emmerdale, football etc. I get it with BGT week as that show is massive and dominant, but often were talking stuff that gets 6m or so against it, so hardly behemoths, yet EE just seems to wilt.”
Its a war of attrition, the soap audience(much reduced over time anyway) is split and EE loses out because the viewers have decided that they will either catch up with EE or they cant be bothered and will pick it up the following episode. Its a clear policy though to use Emmerdale in this way and its a very different world to when EE was regularly 5 or 6 million ahead back in the 90's. Though it must also be said that shows like Masterchef and odd stronger filler shows have a marginal effect on CS and Strictly beats it well on those rare Sunday meets. All in all soaps are brittle-its just that Coronation Street has the smoothest path.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Another 8pm screening of Emmerdale happened.
*shrugs* You reap what you sow.”
“Another 8pm screening of Emmerdale happened.
*shrugs* You reap what you sow.”
These soap clashes have been going on for years though. BBC1 aren't very savvy with scheduling when it comes to them. I say it all goes back to Live Week. The perfect time to try and build it up again. It was all killer then after that it was all filler.
Are they still high fiving themselves about keeping Kathy's return secret?
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Its unfortunate that Eastenders is simply not strong enough these days to hold its audience against these frequent Emmerdale clashes in what was yet another soapfest on ITV last night-which is just going to make ITV look out for them all the more- any damage to ED is an acceptable outcome. Not sure what the Beeb can do other than moving EE each time which potentially disrupts other shows such as Holby on Tuesdays.”
“Its unfortunate that Eastenders is simply not strong enough these days to hold its audience against these frequent Emmerdale clashes in what was yet another soapfest on ITV last night-which is just going to make ITV look out for them all the more- any damage to ED is an acceptable outcome. Not sure what the Beeb can do other than moving EE each time which potentially disrupts other shows such as Holby on Tuesdays.”
Or maybe that ed usually starts earlier so has a lead in or in the case of last night there was 2hrs of soaps on itv
It does fine on non clash nights much to many people's annoyance ok it's behind corrie but always ahead of ed with non clashes.
And people like to forget ee has the biggest catch up audience
Originally Posted by Rob1985:
“Emmerdale
5.61m (33.1%) at 7pm and 140k (0.7%) on +1
5.12m (25.5%) at 8pm and 318k (1.5%) on +1
Corrie
6.91m (36.8%) at 7.30pm and 227k (1.1%) on +1
6.63m (32.9%) at 8.30pm and 271k (1.3%) on +1”
“Emmerdale
5.61m (33.1%) at 7pm and 140k (0.7%) on +1
5.12m (25.5%) at 8pm and 318k (1.5%) on +1
Corrie
6.91m (36.8%) at 7.30pm and 227k (1.1%) on +1
6.63m (32.9%) at 8.30pm and 271k (1.3%) on +1”
Very good +1 rating for the second Emmerdale
Not a bad start for SCD.Not sure about tonight. It's on way too early with very good weather today. Understandable as the rugby is going to be huge. 10 million for that reckon and will win the night.
Originally Posted by Jokanovic:
“Not a bad start for SCD.Not sure about tonight. It's on way too early with very good weather today. Understandable as the rugby is going to be huge. 10 million for that reckon and will win the night.”
“Not a bad start for SCD.Not sure about tonight. It's on way too early with very good weather today. Understandable as the rugby is going to be huge. 10 million for that reckon and will win the night.”
Will the weather really be a problem for Strictly? It's dark at 7pm now.
Originally Posted by simonk243:
“Or maybe that ed usually starts earlier so has a lead in or in the case of last night there was 2hrs of soaps on itv
It does fine on non clash nights much to many people's annoyance ok it's behind corrie but always ahead of ed with non clashes.
And people like to forget ee has the biggest catch up audience”
“Or maybe that ed usually starts earlier so has a lead in or in the case of last night there was 2hrs of soaps on itv
It does fine on non clash nights much to many people's annoyance ok it's behind corrie but always ahead of ed with non clashes.
And people like to forget ee has the biggest catch up audience”
Does it? I thought CS did in the region of 1 million
Originally Posted by Markynotts:
“Considering that Friday night is usually Eastenders weakest of the week, it looks like it held up better than I thought that it would do.
Looking at the soap figures, Corrie doesnt look like it held on to any of its Live episode boost. That is more concerning than Eastenders dropping to its regular 22% clash audience.”
“Considering that Friday night is usually Eastenders weakest of the week, it looks like it held up better than I thought that it would do.
Looking at the soap figures, Corrie doesnt look like it held on to any of its Live episode boost. That is more concerning than Eastenders dropping to its regular 22% clash audience.”
Well we will see what next Monday brings, but on the face of it, having gone down the live gimmick route it hasn't provided much of a spike or indeed much of a surrounding surge in interest.
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