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The Ratings Thread (Part 65)
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Markynotts
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“Borrowed/Stolen from Guestofseth on Gallifrey Base

Doctor Foster's second episode got 9.19m in the 28 day ratings, exact same rating as the first, adding an extra 1.67m to its 7 day figure and is up 3.52m from its overnight.

Doctor Who's first ep in comparison only went up by 300k to 6.84m”

That is a monster time shift for Doctor Foster up from 3.52 million to over 9 million.

Whilst only a small increase of 300k on the 7 day total for Doctor Who, 6.84 million is still a good figure for the show. Not as dead as some would like.
yorkie100
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by Markynotts:
“Could the current ghostly programmes be due to Remember Me from last year which did really well.”

There have been a lot of ghost story shows prior to that though. I think its strange that there are a lot of successful ghost/horror films but not many really successful tv shows.
Life on Mars/Ashes to Ashes probably the last big show of this type or am I forgetting some.
cylon6
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by Markynotts:
“That is a monster time shift for Doctor Foster up from 3.52 million to over 9 million.

Whilst only a small increase of 300k on the 7 day total for Doctor Who, 6.84 million is still a good figure for the show. Not as dead as some would like.”

So no jump for Doctor Who in 28 day data with lower overnights. Some dramas have been adding over 400k after 28 days this year.
kwynne42
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“So no jump for Doctor Who in 28 day data with lower overnights. Some dramas have been adding over 400k after 28 days this year.”

Not to mention that Dr Fosters 8-28 day timeshift is about the same as Doctor Who's 4th ep entire 7 day timeshift heh
Markynotts
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“There have been a lot of ghost story shows prior to that though. I think its strange that there are a lot of successful ghost/horror films but not many really successful tv shows.
Life on Mars/Ashes to Ashes probably the last big show of this type or am I forgetting some.”

American Horror Story is quite successful, but admittedly not British.

Would a horror anthology series work now. Maybe a return for Tales of the Unexpected or something along those lines.
NeilVW
21-10-2015
A new low of 1.5m (7.1%) for Eternal Glory with everything included, according to Broadcast. Came close to being 5th in the slot, just edging C5's Yorkshire Vet (1.4m/7.0%). Three more episodes of Eternal Damnation to go.
yorkie100
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“A new low of 1.5m (7.1%) for Eternal Glory with everything included, according to Broadcast. Came close to being 5th in the slot, just edging C5's Yorkshire Vet. Three more episodes of Eternal Damnation to go.”

Well while its not something I would watch is it really that bad?
NeilVW
21-10-2015
Peak for Building Cars Live of 2.7m (14.0%) in the final minute (8.58pm).

The 90-minute broadcast beat the slot average by 0.2m and one share point.

Just over 60% of viewers were male, and 40% were over 65. (Source: Broadcast)

Concludes tonight.
Jaycee Dove
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“It also shows how much more variety there was then and with less soap episodes. Now extra soaps are put on to fill gaps rather than having a variety of shows that can get the ratings.

The lack of popular sitcom now is depressing. Miranda is gone and Mrs Brown's Boys is just down to specials.

The lack of variety can drive viewers away.”

It is also telling how so many of the few recent sitcom hits are basically revivals. From Open all hours to Birds of a Feather via Red Dwarf and the rumoured Some Mothers Do Ave Them - along with the less successful Yes Minister and even the coming Dad's Army movie - which if it works is bound to tempt the BBC into at least a Christmas special with this cast for 2016.

Drama to a degree is doing this too, with Poldark, maybe Cold Feet and in recent past less successfully Minder and Upstairs, Downstairs. And I gather the BBC have tried unsuccessfully to persuade John Nettles into a Bergerac remake with him in a Charlie Hungerford role and his daughter in the lead.

You do have to ask why these shows were successfully created and nurtured in past decades but these days the ability to do so is lost in but rare occasions.

Is it the writing, or the dramatic comedy acting talent, or the multiple channels fighting for a dwindling live audience stifling the time to give a show the chance to develop.

Probably all of this.
spursboy68
21-10-2015
I'm reminded of Back To The Future today and its network tv premiere in 1988. Does anybody know if tv premieres still rate significantly in the multichannel era? Thanks.
Jaycee Dove
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by Markynotts:
“That is a monster time shift for Doctor Foster up from 3.52 million to over 9 million.

Whilst only a small increase of 300k on the 7 day total for Doctor Who, 6.84 million is still a good figure for the show. Not as dead as some would like.”

I don't think it is about wanting DW to be dead. It is about recognising that it has lost some of its appeal to a broader audience who used to boost the numbers alongside the long term fans.

I have watched since the first episode 52 years ago so am not going to stop just like that - but DW is relying more and more on this kind of audience - and even I probably would not record it these days if I did not happen to be in to watch it live after watching Strictly.

Anyone who cannot see that this might not be an immediate problem but is a problem in the making is not reading the signs in the viewing figures which are there.

I doubt anyone wants the show cancelled and no way is that happening as it would be snapped up by someone like Sky or Netflix if the BBC ever wanted rid as this is a very different world to 1989 where even a loyal minority audience is of big value to someone.

What I see is people wanting those in charge to take the year off to thoroughly reassess the state of the show and see what might be done to bring back the wider audience. Because the year off gives them a chance to in essence do a relaunch in 2017 and that opportunity will decide the future of the show and must not be wasted via complacency.
Jaycee Dove
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by spursboy68:
“I'm reminded of Back To The Future today and its network tv premiere in 1988. Does anybody know if tv premieres still rate significantly in the multichannel era? Thanks.”

ITV have certainly gone to town with it being THE date today that they travelled to in the movie series. They had a Back to the Future theme on This Morning yesterday with Keith Lemon promoting his documentary which reshoots scenes from the movie (with Gino DiCampo as Doc Brown!!!) Apparently doing this because ITV did not expect to get clips to show in their docu-comedy so it was cheaper to refilm them as a comedy.

Indeed Keith Lemon seems to believe he has invented a new TV genre by doing this.

That programme is on ITV 2 today with all three movies around it back to back from tea time today.

So I don't know about movie premieres but these figures will be interesting.

BBC news also have a feature on assessing what the movie got right and wrong about the world of 21 October 2015.

Oh, and Keith and Philip Schofield seemed to let slip that they are doing a similar show with Keith Lemon on Star Wars next!
JordyD
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove:
“ITV have certainly gone to town with it being THE date today that they travelled to in the movie series. They had a Back to the Future theme on This Morning yesterday with Keith Lemon promoting his documentary which reshoots scenes from the movie (with Gino DiCampo as Doc Brown!!!) Apparently doing this because ITV did not expect to get clips to show in their docu-comedy so it was cheaper to refilm them as a comedy.

Indeed Keith Lemon seems to believe he has invented a new TV genre by doing this.

That programme is on ITV 2 today with all three movies around it back to back from tea time today.

So I don't know about movie premieres but these figures will be interesting.

BBC news also have a feature on assessing what the movie got right and wrong about the world of 21 October 2015.

Oh, and Keith and Philip Schofield seemed to let slip that they are doing a similar show with Keith Lemon on Star Wars next!”

It's not just ITV. There was loads of it on BBC Breakfast this morning, too.

I was unfortunate to watch bits of both BBC Breakfast and GMB this morning, and I won't be doing so again.
Dancc
21-10-2015
I thought every other Saturday was Back to the Future day on ITV2 ?
Jaycee Dove
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“I thought every other Saturday was Back to the Future day on ITV2 ? ”

Today it must be back to back to back to back back to the future day for them, then!
JordyD
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove:
“Today it must be back to back to back to back back to the future day for them, then! ”

They have to have something to gush over, as they've lost Harry Potter and Star Wars.

It must surely be time for another Bond season?
Dancc
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove:
“Today it must be back to back to back to back back to the future day for them, then! ”

spursboy68
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by JordyD:
“They have to have something to gush over, as they've lost Harry Potter and Star Wars.

It must surely be time for another Bond season?”

If I never see Bond or HP on ITV ever again, I'd be extremely happy.
dullagj2
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by Minute Mart 1:
“Many moons ago that is what actually happened. You only used to get an episode of your soap if Christmas day fell on the day it aired and then it was only half an hour.

It would be great if the BBC were brave enough next Christmas not to air EastEnders on Christmas day as it will fall at the weekend. ”

Why would they move EastEnders when it's one of their highest rated shows over the festive period? It was very nearly most watched show on Christmas Day last year and it was comfortably the most watched on New Year's Day ahead of Mrs. Brown's Boys.

2014
1. Mrs. Brown's Boys: 7.61m
2. EastEnders: 7.55m
3. Strictly: 7m
4. Call The Midwife: 6.83m
5. Miranda: 6.67m


Should Doctor Who be on the big day this year? It can't hit 5m in the overnights. I think they should move it to Christmas Eve. It can't do worse than last year's pitiful offerings.
NeilVW
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by dullagj2:
“Why would they move EastEnders when it's one of their highest rated shows over the festive period? It was very nearly most watched show on Christmas Day last year and it was comfortably the most watched on New Year's Day ahead of Mrs. Brown's Boys.

2014
1. Mrs. Brown's Boys: 7.61m
2. EastEnders: 7.55m
3. Strictly: 7m
4. Call The Midwife: 6.83m
5. Miranda: 6.67m


Should Doctor Who be on the big day this year? It can't hit 5m in the overnights. I think they should move it to Christmas Eve. It can't do worse than last year's pitiful offerings.



The Press Office doesn't show an extra Corrie. Is there a schedule change Friday 6th?”

Possibly to make up for a missed episode on Friday 13th (Spain v England friendly).
burbe
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by dullagj2:
“Why would they move EastEnders when it's one of their highest rated shows over the festive period? It was very nearly most watched show on Christmas Day last year and it was comfortably the most watched on New Year's Day ahead of Mrs. Brown's Boys.

2014
1. Mrs. Brown's Boys: 7.61m
2. EastEnders: 7.55m
3. Strictly: 7m
4. Call The Midwife: 6.83m
5. Miranda: 6.67m


Should Doctor Who be on the big day this year? It can't hit 5m in the overnights. I think they should move it to Christmas Eve. It can't do worse than last year's pitiful offerings.

The Press Office doesn't show an extra Corrie. Is there a schedule change Friday 6th?”

I'm a fan of Doctor Who, but I agree it would probably make sense to move it from Christmas Day to Christmas Eve. It would free up space for Sherlock too because it would be too much having both on the same night, as well as strengthening Christmas Eve, which has been fairly weak the last two years.

No schedule change on Friday. They've just added a bonus Corrie episode on Thursday.
H of De Vil
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove:
“ITV have certainly gone to town with it being THE date today that they travelled to in the movie series. They had a Back to the Future theme on This Morning yesterday with Keith Lemon promoting his documentary which reshoots scenes from the movie (with Gino DiCampo as Doc Brown!!!) Apparently doing this because ITV did not expect to get clips to show in their docu-comedy so it was cheaper to refilm them as a comedy.

Indeed Keith Lemon seems to believe he has invented a new TV genre by doing this.

That programme is on ITV 2 today with all three movies around it back to back from tea time today.

So I don't know about movie premieres but these figures will be interesting.

BBC news also have a feature on assessing what the movie got right and wrong about the world of 21 October 2015.

Oh, and Keith and Philip Schofield seemed to let slip that they are doing a similar show with Keith Lemon on Star Wars next!”

I think its a neat idea. This type of re-make of films for laughs could be something ITV2 adopt to do for Christmas. I'm sure it would certainly be better than thngs like Glitchy which is now close to droppig below 100k at 10pm, leading ino The Job Lot.
Bushmills
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by grondagronda:
“510K for Pick Me! I'm amazed it's even getting that many, to be honest.

Dead show walking.”

And it's on every day for FIVE weeks!

This show is genuinely, jaw-droppingly terrible. Right down there with Don't Scare The Hare.
spursboy68
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by burbe:
“I'm a fan of Doctor Who, but I agree it would probably make sense to move it from Christmas Day to Christmas Eve. It would free up space for Sherlock too because it would be too much having both on the same night, as well as strengthening Christmas Eve, which has been fairly weak the last two years.

No schedule change on Friday. They've just added a bonus Corrie episode on Thursday.”

Sherlock on Xmas Day? Can't see it.
BadSignal
21-10-2015
Fingers crossed for another leap in Strictly viewing figures this Saturday although i think they will be even bigger again for their Halloween show.
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