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The Ratings Thread (Part 65)
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Roscoe Barnes
23-10-2015
Solid for Emmerdale last night with the rewind episode. Would have been nice to have the rewind episode a touch higher but both episodes rated pretty much identically and both beat EE oddly despite no clash.

Superb return for TBBT.
H of De Vil
23-10-2015
Originally Posted by James J:
“Doesn't mean the concept of unified advertising for a night if the shows are "good" is a poor one?”

No not at all, I wasn't suggesting that. All I meant was that ITV's Super Saturday was only partly super because the audiece deserted ITV after 9.20pm.

I think something like this would be good for Sunday, particuarly because its proper event TV all in a row.
Minute Mart 1
23-10-2015
Originally Posted by Roscoe Barnes:
“Solid for Emmerdale last night with the rewind episode. Would have been nice to have the rewind episode a touch higher but both episodes rated pretty much identically and both beat EE oddly despite no clash.

Superb return for TBBT.”

You have to remember two soaps have had a big week of story lines for their birthdays and the ratings for both soaps have been at best respectable, which is a shame with all the hard work they have put in. We are in late October well into Autumn.
Dan R
23-10-2015
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“ITV did Super Saturday's earlier this year. Featuring hits like Ninja Warrior UK, BGT and flops like Play To The Whistle.”

The Ninja + BGT combo worked excellently. They should definitely continue with that and its unified advertising in 2016.
Minute Mart 1
23-10-2015
Originally Posted by JordyD:
“Yeah I suppose, was just thinking it would be a way to let viewers know that they could stay with ITV the whole night (far fetched I know! Lol).

There isn't even any season promotions anymore. Everything is so bland.”


No that went out of the window many moons ago, instead you will have the equivalent like the BBC promoting drama right up to Christmas and New Year including Sherlock and itv does something similar. It would seem odd to have season trailers now.
yorkie100
23-10-2015
Originally Posted by JordyD:
“Yeah I suppose, was just thinking it would be a way to let viewers know that they could stay with ITV the whole night (far fetched I know! Lol).

There isn't even any season promotions anymore. Everything is so bland.”

Yes I miss the times when we had proper seasons especially autumn season - maybe thats because both sides seemed to be trying whereas now we seem to be stuck in an ever decreasing circle.
H of De Vil
24-10-2015
At least with both sides seemigly making an effort it does make scheduling Christmas TV that much more interesting this year, than where ITV will put All Star Mr & Mrs, or their festive YBF rpt.

And what films will be on offer this year.

Ch5 have got Peter Pan this weekend I see. Would have been perfect for Christmas Eve.
NeilVW
24-10-2015
Originally Posted by Minute Mart 1:
“No that went out of the window many moons ago, instead you will have the equivalent like the BBC promoting drama right up to Christmas and New Year including Sherlock and itv does something similar. It would seem odd to have season trailers now.”

Speaking of the BBC One autumn/winter trailer ......http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p033jq9s

.... Tracey Ullman - I wonder when that's on? I used to love her shows.

Maybe it's because stuff is more spread out throughout the year rather than concentrated in one season (autumn).

BBC One's Love 2014 and (especially) Love 2013 trailers were good.
JCR
24-10-2015
Originally Posted by Roscoe Barnes:
“Superb return for TBBT.”

Interesting to see if it can keep it up, given it's as formulaic and well-worn as mid 90's Last Of The Summer Wine at this point.
Dancc
24-10-2015
TFI Friday continued with a reduced audience of 1.48m (7.3%).

Gogglebox posted 3.50m (17.3%) and Chatty Man managed 1.21m (7.8%).
Dancc
24-10-2015
Channel 5 meanwhile suffered a disappointing evening as NCIS: New Orleans (0.58m/2.9%) and NCIS (0.62m/3.9%) hit series lows after showing some promise last week.
Dancc
24-10-2015
For BBC One, Eastenders attracted 5.71m (28.4%) and HIGNFY climbed to 3.99m (19.1%).

BBC Two's most watched show was Gardeners' World (2.27m/11.0%).
Markynotts
24-10-2015
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“TFI Friday continued with a reduced audience of 1.48m (7.3%).

Gogglebox posted 3.50m (17.3%) and Chatty Man managed 1.21m (7.8%).”

No spin twisted tweet about TFI this week then - not that saying that you did that Dance btw

I think as a one off revisit it was nice, but there are reasons why it failed as a weekly series and ended. Perhaps they should have kept it to specials throughout the year like TFI - Christmas and TFI New Year
welshfoxy
24-10-2015
I thought the TFI one off was a borefest personally. Turns out people who thought they enjoyed the actual show were probably more caught up in pure nostalgia in their heads. Definitely a show 'of its time'. Can you imagine the disaster had 'hip and happening' Nick Grimshaw got the series?
cylon6
24-10-2015
Thanks Dancc.

Does the TFI Friday rating include +1?
Dancc
24-10-2015
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Thanks Dancc.

Does the TFI Friday rating include +1?”

No problem.

No, none of it does.
rzt
24-10-2015
Simon Cowell talking about X Factor ratings:
Quote:
“Cowell is speaking in the French countryside at the Château de Moh, a 90 minute drive from Nantes, where he is judging his Overs section at the Judges’ Houses stage. Lighting up a second cigarette, Cowell is also keen to stress the X Factor is far from dying in the UK. One of the show's executive producers Richard Holloway suggested the show may need to be “rested” soon to avoid burning out and being axed if ratings fall. But Cowell is defiant that the show remains in rude health and has plenty of life yet, even after a decade on screen battling with Strictly Come Dancing.

“I think he was talking about himself being rested,” Cowell says of Holloway's comments, clearly unimpressed.

“If you said to any broadcaster now, would you like to rest a show that is doing nine-and-a-half, ten, eleven million every week, that is bringing in the group of advertisers you want the most, they would say ‘you are out of your mind’. They would never allow that to happen. If we were sitting here ten years ago and you said ‘how many years have you got’ I would have said if we can get to five we have done well. We are now at ten and I think that is the fact that they do make a really good show.”

The current contract is up for renewal at the end of the series, but Cowell is confident ITV will re-sign for several more years.

“I wouldn’t worry about the future of X Factor. We are going to be fine,” he says smiling.

“If we are sitting here in ten years time then we will have a very large celebration. I think, not for me, but it is a little bit tough on the producers that they don’t get the recognition they deserve because it is a big big difficult show to make and they put a lot of time and passion into it. You meet the team and they are a big team and they are knackered and I get a little but frustrated that it is not recognised for what it has done, rather than chip away and say it is a disaster when it is almost the opposite of that. So I get quite defensive of the team for obvious reasons. This would not be a difficult show to put anywhere now. It brings in a very passionate and loyal audience. The advertisers love it, the sponsors love it.

"There are some people out there who have almost got an obsession with it failing. I have never felt anything like it in my life. But it is only a TV talent show. It is only there to entertain people and it is a fun show to watch and it creates stars. But there are people out there going ‘it must fail’. I guess maybe that is partly to do with me. Think more good has come out of it than bad. I don’t see it being a bad thing, it has been good for British TV. It spurred Strictly on, they spurred us on. TV on a Saturday night without these two show on would be pretty bland I think.”

The only time Simon sounds remotely annoyed during our chat is when ratings are brought up. Overnights are currently decided by Barb who use a sample of 5,000 people across the UK to determine how many million people were tuning in as a whole. But with more people now watching shows online and with catch up TV, Cowell thinks people should take more notice of consolidated ratings which come out after seven days.

“If you look at everything at the moment you are seeing a pattern here. Strictly is in the sevens, we are in the sevens, our peak was higher than theirs. There is no question of a doubt, this applies to all shows at the moment, people are definitely changing their viewing habits. We are adding two or three million on the week’s figures which is taking us up to nine-and-a-half then which in this day and age is a miracle. I can make a very quick calculation now, when they come in on Sunday morning, in my mind we have done ten million, because I know what the catch up number is going to be. Ten years on to be getting ten million in this day and age, it is a miracle.

“That first week I felt it, It was like ‘christ almighty’ is this going to work or is it a really bad sign. We had to hold our nerve and then over the three weeks it has started to build and you see the catch up numbers and they are real.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/s...estion-6693961”

cylon6
24-10-2015
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“No problem.

No, none of it does.”

Thanks for that.

With TFI Friday it looks like the nostalgia halo is wearing off. Chris Evans with all of his media mates in the bar can only go so far probably.
jlp95bwfc
24-10-2015
Soap Ratings:
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s3...ps1vtF38ysIUt0

Corrie top but once again the 8:30 episode sees a drop, ED remains ahead of EE.
Jay Lee
24-10-2015
EastEnders was rather good last night. A shame it's not reflected in that figure. Still, at least it means the majority of people on this thread will be kept happy.
Dan R
24-10-2015
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Simon Cowell talking about X Factor ratings:”

So much common sense and truth in that.
Score
24-10-2015
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Simon Cowell talking about X Factor ratings:”

Some interesting stuff there. He makes a fair point about the consolidated numbers. I think in those the show is down about 6% year on year so far as it has timeshifted a bit more this year than last year. Obviously that isn't idea but it isn't a horrendous result either given that some of the early episodes last year were possibly inflated by Cowell/Cole's initial return. I know he's bigging up his numbers a bit which you'd expect as a producer but he seems to be fully aware of where the overnights are.i think the reference to Strictly being in the sevens is because the interview was held a couple of weeks ago (when he filmed judges houses).

The 2 hour Sunday shows have worked well. 7.8m last week was a decent result with a 45 min Strictly overlap. It averaged 8.6m in the 8pm hour which was actually the same as the year ago episode got (a 1 hour results show).

Interesting to see an acknowledgement that he first week's numbers didn't go down well. I think the Saturday rating was one thing but I think what will have really spooked them was that 6.5m for the first Sunday show. The Sunday ratings have gone up since then though. They've gone: 6.5m, 7.1m, 7.3m, 7.3m, 7.2m, 7.5m, 7.6m, 7.8m. So a good trajectory, particularly given that the last three weeks have had the Strictly overlap. It's all about what they can hold going into the live shows though

What that means in terms of a contract renewal I don't know. There's been a lot of talk about them ending the show next year which given how the numbers have dropped may not be wide of the mark. Equally though, I suspect ITV may have been burnt by the struggles they've had in Q1 since they axed Dancing on Ice and may be reluctant to axe TXF quite as hastily. Particularly as TXF could drop quite a bit lower than DOI and still be sustainable as it gets much better demos.

At this point (obviously this could change based on how the live shows and the early part of next year's run goes) I can see them renewing it. Maybe not on another 3 year deal but I think it'll be back in some form. I think they should probably cut the number of hours it airs for and maybe even cut back to one night but I think it'll still be on air. They should probably push for a better deal but the leverage Syco have is BGT which is obviously still massive. If BGT posts another good run next year then I think ITV's position probably weakens. Equally though if ITV make noises about potentially ending TXF Syco might give it to them cheaper as part of a BGT deal. It's tricky but at this point I don't see them just ending TXF straight away.

Having said that I think tonight could be rough. The first Saturday show in weeks, it's judges houses and it's really long. I don't see it going well. Quite possibly below 7m (inc +1), as much as anything else people might not realise it's even on tonight. Next week with it being Halloween could be really tough as well. These next 2 weeks will probably be the most testing of the rest of this series.
Chris1964
24-10-2015
I don't see any end to X Factor in the medium term. Its performance is still good enough and given its attachment to BGT I would have thought another contract is virtually signed and sealed. Cowell himself might have made a decision to stop it but clearly that isn't the case. There may have been a case regarding the unknown element of The Voice. Obviously still up in the air with that but if it did come to ITV(that story has gone to ground at the moment) they could have rested XF and run TVUK instead. However why on earth wouldn't you run both and fill three quarters of the year up with big brands! Seems a no brainer to me.
Minute Mart 1
24-10-2015
Originally Posted by Jay Lee:
“EastEnders was rather good last night. A shame it's not reflected in that figure. Still, at least it means the majority of people on this thread will be kept happy.”

Indeed they will.

Back to ratings and Emmerdale saw a slight rise, which was to be expected after the reveal on Thursday and I did think it would be ahead of EastEnders. Taking nothing away from Emmerdale it was very good.

I agree with Jay, EastEnders had a good episode last night. EastEnders does have its problems and this does seem to be reflected in the ratings. However many viewers who left under Kirkwood and Newman have not returned.

The BBC last night started trailers for EastEnders for Halloween and to be fair to them, it is a rather good promo. Lets hope it lives up to the hype.

Corrie rated well for a Friday which is quite amusing for those of us who watched the double bill, as it was the worst of the big 3. However Corrie is an institution and viewers are loyal and watch whether good or bad. You could have an episode with Norris on the lav and it would still rate well.

Hollyoaks did well for a Friday, slightly up which is good for them and a nice rise for Doctors after Thursday's special episode. Doctors, the Jewel in BBC One's daytime crown. Doctors is the fourth soap, to the annoyance of some Hollyoaks fans.
jlp95bwfc
24-10-2015
I agree Corrie was dreadful last night. Really boring. The Platts are the only good thing about the show right now.
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