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Old 26-08-2015, 16:15
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I'm starting to think it's becoming a childish tit-for-tat between BBC One and ITV with the soaps and the light entertainment shows. One does it one way so the other does it back. The viewers lose out as do the networks.
Exacty this. Danny Cohen has just told reporters at Edinburgh TV Fest that he cannot guarantee Strictly wont now clash with X Factor in the same way as ITV wont guarantee that Emmerdale wont clash with Eastenders.
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Old 26-08-2015, 16:19
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Who Doing The Dishes? is now the next flop to split up The Chase and Tipping Point once Hello Campers finishes.
EDIT: ITV have seen sense and moved it to 3pm. Makes so much more sense. Why mess with a strong schedule?
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Old 26-08-2015, 16:21
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The Strictly launch show is confirmed for a 7.15pm start on Saturday 5th September.
Such an odd time for SCD to start. Its not even like they can justify a 7.15pm start, other than to dent TXF.
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Old 26-08-2015, 16:21
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Exacty this. Danny Cohen has just told reporters at Edinburgh TV Fest that he cannot guarantee Strictly wont now clash with X Factor in the same way as ITV wont guarantee that Emmerdale wont clash with Eastenders.
In the long run though the BBC are the only ones who will loose out with this strategy,given John Whittingdales current scrutiny.
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Old 26-08-2015, 16:26
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In the long run though the BBC are the only ones who will loose out with this strategy,given John Whittingdales current scrutiny.
Why should they? This whole "oh the BBC can't chase ratings" is a load of rubbish by sole ITV supporters who want the BBC to not be able to defend itself, which is what it is doing. Both channels should be able to do what they think is best and let the public decide
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Old 26-08-2015, 16:27
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Exacty this. Danny Cohen has just told reporters at Edinburgh TV Fest that he cannot guarantee Strictly wont now clash with X Factor in the same way as ITV wont guarantee that Emmerdale wont clash with Eastenders.
BBC chief Danny Cohen defends entertainment shows on the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34050953
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Old 26-08-2015, 16:31
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Why should they? This whole "oh the BBC can't chase ratings" is a load of rubbish by sole ITV supporters who want the BBC to not be able to defend itself, which is what it is doing. Both channels should be able to do what they think is best and let the public decide
Yes but other commercial channels dont get given 4 billion from the Government do they.That is the difference.
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Old 26-08-2015, 16:33
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Mark Jefferies (@mirrorjeffers) tweeted at 4:10 pm on Wed, Aug 26, 2015:
BBC boss Danny Cohen says he can't guarantee #Strictly and #XFactor won't clash in same way ITV won't guarantee no Emmerdale and EE clash.

https://twitter.com/mirrorjeffers/st...878858240?s=09
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Old 26-08-2015, 16:37
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Yes but other commercial channels dont get given 4 billion from the Government do they.That is the difference.
Other channels don't have radio stations and educational services to run
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Old 26-08-2015, 16:38
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Yes but other commercial channels dont get given 4 billion from the Government do they.That is the difference.
ITV used to make a load of money and aggressively schedule against the BBC for years. Saturday night has been a battleground for years. That's one night where I think battles are allowed.

The audience rises on Saturday from 7pm. Strictly has generally rated better since the 6.30ish starts from 2011.
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Old 26-08-2015, 16:42
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Exacty this. Danny Cohen has just told reporters at Edinburgh TV Fest that he cannot guarantee Strictly wont now clash with X Factor in the same way as ITV wont guarantee that Emmerdale wont clash with Eastenders.
How petty. The BBC should know better. They are providing a service which we all pay for, and should be thinking of the viewers.

Equally, the BBC have given ITV a way out. If they stop the ED/EE clashes then the BBC will equally cooperate I'm sure.
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Old 26-08-2015, 16:46
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Other channels don't have radio stations and educational services to run
Whats that got to do with it.
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Old 26-08-2015, 17:01
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How petty. The BBC should know better. They are providing a service which we all pay for, and should be thinking of the viewers.

Equally, the BBC have given ITV a way out. If they stop the ED/EE clashes then the BBC will equally cooperate I'm sure.
Hold on a min, I thought Strictly viewers wern't also X Factor viewers, because the general things on here, is that Strictly is the OAP and happier show, while the XF is more younger skewing and more trashy/ vile, so why would it matter greatly if these two different shows clashed anyway?

Surely any clash, just shows up which show is more popular.

The BBC has nothing to apoligise for, neither has ITV.
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Old 26-08-2015, 17:05
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Whats that got to do with it.
The "4 billion" they get goes on other things then TV???? Will they be told they can't chase radio listeners soon?
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Old 26-08-2015, 17:14
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Emmerdale 5.34m/28.1%

Joint lowest overnight rating of the month (so far), which is lowest since July 17th.
Lowest share of the month (so far).
Lowest share since July 3rd.

What is the point of one-hour episodes when they drag the averages down?
What is the point of one-hour episodes when they are followed by programmes like Bargain Fever Britain, which are followed by programmes like School Swap, causing viewers to defect to other channels and allowing BBC1 to win the rest of the evening?

Now that ITV has lost the football, wouldn't it make sense to try to strengthen Tuesday from 8pm? Why haven't they tried double bills of Emmerdale on Tuesday, followed by the extra episodes of Coronation Street at 8.30pm? Why is ITV nervous of challenging Holby City? Is it (as I suspect) because ITV don't have total confidence that their soaps are able to attract people back at 8pm when BBC1 is showing Holby, which has occupied that slot (displaced temporarily in 2007 for Holby Blue) since October 2001?
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Old 26-08-2015, 17:15
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How petty. The BBC should know better. They are providing a service which we all pay for, and should be thinking of the viewers.

Equally, the BBC have given ITV a way out. If they stop the ED/EE clashes then the BBC will equally cooperate I'm sure.
Just like itv should know better by not putting Emmerdale against Eastenders which is almost a weekly acourance now
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Old 26-08-2015, 17:18
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Not with my croaky voice today haha.

I caught an episode over on Challenge a few months back and the fashion, the hair, the glasses. Just what were they thinking.

It was a great idea, but using a helicopter now would be too expensive. Chasing someone around on the ground with a jeep and a drone however, would work - if anyone is reading this
Ratings for ITV's Interceptor

Wednesday 19th July 1989 (8pm) 7.31m [BBC1 : Paradise 5.0m]
Wednesday 26th July 1989 (8pm) 6.68m [BBC1 : Paradise 6.2m]
Wednesday 2nd August 1989 (8pm) 6.88m [BBC1 : Paradise 6.86m]
Wednesday 9th August 1989 (8pm) 7.17m [BBC1 : Paradise 7.68m]
Wednesday 16th August 1989 (8pm) 6.64m [BBC1 : Athletics 6.4m]
Wednesday 23rd August 1989 (8pm) 7.27m [BBC1 : Paradise 6.5m]
Wednesday 30th August 1989 (8pm) 8.11m [BBC1 : Paradise 6.6m]

Monday 1st January 1990 (10.30am) Below 4.3m
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Old 26-08-2015, 17:18
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Surely any clash, just shows up which show is more popular.
I don't think that's necessarily true in the case of the soaps as EastEnders is usually ahead of Emmerdale in non-clash weeks.
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Old 26-08-2015, 17:20
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Just like itv should know better by not putting Emmerdale against Eastenders which is almost a weekly acourance now
It's ridiculous but logic rarely applies to anything ITV does nowadays.

In an era where the soaps are becoming less and less popular, the broadcasters shouldn't be trying to speed up that decline especially ITV who rely on them far more than the BBC.
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Old 26-08-2015, 17:20
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BBC 1
13:45: Doctors - 1.31m (16.4%)
17:15: Pointless - 3.45m (27.0%)
18:00: BBC News at Six - 4.91m (31.0%)
18:30: BBC Regional News - 5.63m (33.0%)
19:00: The One Show - 3.63m (20.0%)
19:30: EastEnders - 4.45m (22.2%)
20:00: Holby City - 4.04m (20.6%)
21:00: New Tricks - 4.97m (24.3%)
22:00: BBC News at Ten - 4.15m (25.0%)

BBC 2
20:00: Natural World - 1.97m (10.0%)
21:00: The World’s Busiest Railway 2015 - 2.13m (10.5%)
22:00: Goodness Gracious Me: India Special 2015 - 1.24m (7.4%)

ITV
18:00: ITV Regional News - 2.81m (18.0%)
19:00: Emmerdale - 5.34m (28.1%), +1 - 320k (1.6%)
* 5.17m (25.9%) during 30 minute clash
20:00: Bargain Fever Britain - 2.21m (11.2%), +1 - 76k (0.4%)
21:00: School Swap: The Class Divide - 1.17m (5.7%), +1 - 121k (0.8%)

Channel 4
18:30: Hollyoaks - 883k (5.2%), +1 - 58k (0.3%)
20:00: The Three Day Nanny - 1.05m (5.3%), +1 - 118k (0.6%)
21:00: Educating Cardiff - 1.58m (7.8%), +1 - 219k (1.5%)

Channel 5
13:15: Home and Away - 268k (3.4%)
13:45: Neighbours - 692k (8.7%)
17:30: Neighbours - 662k (5.1%)
18:00: Home and Away - 561k (3.6%)
20:00: The Dog Rescuers with Alan Davies - 932k (4.8%), +1 - 126k (0.6%)
21:00: My Big Fat Benefits Wedding Live - 955k (4.7%), +1 - 41k (0.3%)
22:00: 12 Years Old and on Benefits - 623k (4.1%), +1 - 42k (0.5%)

BBC 3
22:00: EastEnders - 697k (4.2%)
23:00: Family Guy - 554k (5.7%)
23:25: Family Guy - 579k (7.3%)

ITV 3
20:00: Midsomer Murders - 885k (4.0%)

E4
18:30: The Big Bang Theory - 478k (2.8%)
19:00: Hollyoaks - 576k (3.2%), +1 - 137k (0.7%)
20:00: The Big Bang Theory - 475k (2.5%)
20:30: The Big Bang Theory - 470k (2.3%)
21:00: Rude Tube - 520k (2.6%)
22:00: Bad Robots - 449k (2.7%)

5*
18:30: Home and Away - 357k (2.1%)

Sources - DS, ITV Media
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Old 26-08-2015, 17:49
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I don't think that's necessarily true in the case of the soaps as EastEnders is usually ahead of Emmerdale in non-clash weeks.
Thats true. But were on the DS Ratings thread here.

Strictly will always be DS Forum's sweetheart show (just like EE). The BBC tag has nothing to do with it! lol.
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Old 26-08-2015, 17:59
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Ratings for ITV's Interceptor

Wednesday 19th July 1989 (8pm) 7.31m [BBC1 : Paradise 5.0m]
Wednesday 26th July 1989 (8pm) 6.68m [BBC1 : Paradise 6.2m]
Wednesday 2nd August 1989 (8pm) 6.88m [BBC1 : Paradise 6.86m]
Wednesday 9th August 1989 (8pm) 7.17m [BBC1 : Paradise 7.68m]
Wednesday 16th August 1989 (8pm) 6.64m [BBC1 : Athletics 6.4m]
Wednesday 23rd August 1989 (8pm) 7.27m [BBC1 : Paradise 6.5m]
Wednesday 30th August 1989 (8pm) 8.11m [BBC1 : Paradise 6.6m]

Monday 1st January 1990 (10.30am) Below 4.3m
Thank you for those numbers. I guess those rose tinted glasses didn't really show how badly the programme was doing. These days those figures look great, and it did beat what the BBC was showing especially as it was the height of summer.
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Old 26-08-2015, 18:09
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Exacty this. Danny Cohen has just told reporters at Edinburgh TV Fest that he cannot guarantee Strictly wont now clash with X Factor in the same way as ITV wont guarantee that Emmerdale wont clash with Eastenders.
I didn't expect to be proven correct so quickly.

Shame they both can't grow up. Cohen must have been challenged about it; therefore I hope Fincham is also pushed in his interview regarding it.
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Old 26-08-2015, 18:15
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Charlotte Moore revealed programmes for BBC1 at the Edinburgh TV Festival.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...oore-edinburgh
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Old 26-08-2015, 18:40
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Charlotte Moore revealed programmes for BBC1 at the Edinburgh TV Festival.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...oore-edinburgh
Some very interesting things lined up there away from the usual programming that we get.
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