And where is Jekyll & Hyde going to squeeze into all this? Surely Saturday is the best day for it, what with Downton on Sunday and Doc Martin in Monday.
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Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“And where is Jekyll & Hyde going to squeeze into all this? Surely Saturday is the best day for it, what with Downton on Sunday and Doc Martin in Monday.”
“And where is Jekyll & Hyde going to squeeze into all this? Surely Saturday is the best day for it, what with Downton on Sunday and Doc Martin in Monday.”
If it's going on a Saturday then I would think 24th October would be the launch date, with a Schedule that looks something like:
16:00: World Cup Semi Final
18:30: X Factor Live
20:30: Jekyll and Hyde
21:30: Jonathan Ross?
Interestingly, if does end up there it follows the 2007 Steven Moffat BBC reboot which also aired on a Saturday but it depends on the tone of the new jekyll in how late its going (could also be swapped with XF if its family friendly enough, the Rugby could help it more than it'd help XF tbh) It would have to have a double episode or the finale on Boxing Day for this one to work however
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“PEDANTRY ALERT: Plaza Patrol was actually on Mondays, the appalling ITV sitcom on Fridays at seven in the summer of 1991 was actually Very Big Very Soon, starring Paul Shane as a crap talent agent. It was very strange to see those Little and Large repeats in that summer, though, as you say (although they did in previous years sometimes stick a few repeats at the end of a series to fill a gap).”
“PEDANTRY ALERT: Plaza Patrol was actually on Mondays, the appalling ITV sitcom on Fridays at seven in the summer of 1991 was actually Very Big Very Soon, starring Paul Shane as a crap talent agent. It was very strange to see those Little and Large repeats in that summer, though, as you say (although they did in previous years sometimes stick a few repeats at the end of a series to fill a gap).”
Ah, I'd forgotten about the Paul Shane sitcom, too. You can tell I didn't watch a lot of ITV. I'm not sure what the thinking was behind the Little and Large and Paul Daniels Magic Show repeats in 1991. Maybe it was just a way of filling Friday nights without resorting to American shows or films.
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“I've said this before but I remember reading in Fast Forward in 1990 that Little and Large had been axed, and then a few weeks later they reported it had been reprieved. I was eleven when the last series went out but even at that age I could tell they'd had a massive budget cut, I remember it didn't have any opening titles and the set was tiny. It was a bit of a bonfire of variety acts in 1991 because Russ Abbot and Les Dennis also had their last series that year. Russ was the first act I knew was going down the dumper because his final series was moved from Saturday to Friday which in those days was a massive demotion. And then there was another big cull in 1994 when they axed Jim'll Fix It, The Paul Daniels Magic Show and That's Life.”
“I've said this before but I remember reading in Fast Forward in 1990 that Little and Large had been axed, and then a few weeks later they reported it had been reprieved. I was eleven when the last series went out but even at that age I could tell they'd had a massive budget cut, I remember it didn't have any opening titles and the set was tiny. It was a bit of a bonfire of variety acts in 1991 because Russ Abbot and Les Dennis also had their last series that year. Russ was the first act I knew was going down the dumper because his final series was moved from Saturday to Friday which in those days was a massive demotion. And then there was another big cull in 1994 when they axed Jim'll Fix It, The Paul Daniels Magic Show and That's Life.”
Yes, Russ's final series was much weaker than the previous runs had been. Wasn't it also the longest, with 12 programmes?
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“There were two series of Haggard, of course, but the second was presumably on the shelf for ages because it wasn't shown until the summer of 1992, two and a half years after the first one, very early on Saturday teatimes and then by the end of the run it was at the mercy of the individual regions, many of whom shoved the last episode or two out on Sunday afternoons.”
“There were two series of Haggard, of course, but the second was presumably on the shelf for ages because it wasn't shown until the summer of 1992, two and a half years after the first one, very early on Saturday teatimes and then by the end of the run it was at the mercy of the individual regions, many of whom shoved the last episode or two out on Sunday afternoons.”
They did a lot of that. I started watching Shelley in summer 1992, and those new episodes had 1990 on the end credits.
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Dave's new US sitcom Last Man on Earth launched to 0.17m (0.9%) at 9pm, climbing to 0.21m (1.1%) at 9:30pm. The latter was the channel's most watched programme in peak.
No sign of Suits in the top 3. I wonder what happened to that show? I'm pretty sure it was a hit for them when it first launched, but seems to have gone the wrong way with less than 0.15m tuning in for the Series 5 opener at 10pm.
No sign of Suits in the top 3. I wonder what happened to that show? I'm pretty sure it was a hit for them when it first launched, but seems to have gone the wrong way with less than 0.15m tuning in for the Series 5 opener at 10pm.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Dave's new US sitcom Last Man on Earth launched to 0.17m (0.9%) at 9pm, climbing to 0.21m (1.1%) at 9:30pm. The latter was the channel's most watched programme in peak.
No sign of Suits in the top 3. I wonder what happened to that show? I'm pretty sure it was a hit for them when it first launched, but seems to have gone the wrong way with less than 0.15m tuning in for the Series 5 opener at 10pm.”
“Dave's new US sitcom Last Man on Earth launched to 0.17m (0.9%) at 9pm, climbing to 0.21m (1.1%) at 9:30pm. The latter was the channel's most watched programme in peak.
No sign of Suits in the top 3. I wonder what happened to that show? I'm pretty sure it was a hit for them when it first launched, but seems to have gone the wrong way with less than 0.15m tuning in for the Series 5 opener at 10pm.”
The Last Man show unfortunately runs out of steam and jokes as it progresses. It felt like a film idea that was stretched too far.
Soap Ratings
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s3...pl2I6UAESZpqgb
Corrie on top with 7 Million - decent share for Emmerdale too
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s3...pl2I6UAESZpqgb
Corrie on top with 7 Million - decent share for Emmerdale too
[quote=Markynotts;79229846]Soap Ratings
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s3...pl2I6UAESZpqgb
Corrie on top with 7 Million - decent share for Emmerdale too[/QUOTE
Never seen the first corries share that high in a while neither
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s3...pl2I6UAESZpqgb
Corrie on top with 7 Million - decent share for Emmerdale too[/QUOTE
Never seen the first corries share that high in a while neither
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Dave's new US sitcom Last Man on Earth launched to 0.17m (0.9%) at 9pm, climbing to 0.21m (1.1%) at 9:30pm. The latter was the channel's most watched programme in peak.
No sign of Suits in the top 3. I wonder what happened to that show? I'm pretty sure it was a hit for them when it first launched, but seems to have gone the wrong way with less than 0.15m tuning in for the Series 5 opener at 10pm.”
“Dave's new US sitcom Last Man on Earth launched to 0.17m (0.9%) at 9pm, climbing to 0.21m (1.1%) at 9:30pm. The latter was the channel's most watched programme in peak.
No sign of Suits in the top 3. I wonder what happened to that show? I'm pretty sure it was a hit for them when it first launched, but seems to have gone the wrong way with less than 0.15m tuning in for the Series 5 opener at 10pm.”
If I'd known it was on I would have watched... But they've been inconsistent with when they air it with respect to the US so it's easy to miss
Originally Posted by Markynotts:
“The Last Man show unfortunately runs out of steam and jokes as it progresses. It felt like a film idea that was stretched too far.”
“The Last Man show unfortunately runs out of steam and jokes as it progresses. It felt like a film idea that was stretched too far.”
That may be so, but it was nice to see Dave mixing things up a bit on Monday nights - the criminally underrated P&R at 8pm, LMOE at 9 and Suits at 10. Far more interesting to me than panel show repeat followed by panel show repeat followed by panel show repeat.
Unfortunately, they haven't been rewarded in the ratings. Back to panel show repeats before long no doubt.
What has made ITV swap rpt's of Vera for Foyle's War on Wednesday? The latter rates about half of the former with under 2m viewers.
And another scheduling cock-up. ITV have scheduled their new 2 part school series - School Swap - The Class Divide opposite BBC2 series 'Are out KIds Tough Enough? Chinese School' at 9pm on Tuesday. Another case of poor planning. With all the slots filled with rpt's and its ends up directly next to another school set series.
And another scheduling cock-up. ITV have scheduled their new 2 part school series - School Swap - The Class Divide opposite BBC2 series 'Are out KIds Tough Enough? Chinese School' at 9pm on Tuesday. Another case of poor planning. With all the slots filled with rpt's and its ends up directly next to another school set series.
Originally Posted by Markynotts:
“Soap Ratings
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s3...pl2I6UAESZpqgb
Corrie on top with 7 Million - decent share for Emmerdale too”
“Soap Ratings
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s3...pl2I6UAESZpqgb
Corrie on top with 7 Million - decent share for Emmerdale too”
BLACKBURN OUT!!!
A good rating for Emmerdale. And a poor rating for EastEnders, should be doing better than that that on a Monday.
Again Emmerdale deserves to be top soap, its beaten EastEnders, Corrie is going to be more difficult.
I imagine Travel Guides on ITV is another sub 2m rating to add to their week. Their making a real collection now.
I imagine Travel Guides on ITV is another sub 2m rating to add to their week. Their making a real collection now.
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“What has made ITV swap rpt's of Vera for Foyle's War on Wednesday? The latter rates about half of the former with under 2m viewers.
And another scheduling cock-up. ITV have scheduled their new 2 part school series - School Swap - The Class Divide opposite BBC2 series 'Are out KIds Tough Enough? Chinese School' at 9pm on Tuesday. Another case of poor planning. With all the slots filled with rpt's and its ends up directly next to another school set series.”
“What has made ITV swap rpt's of Vera for Foyle's War on Wednesday? The latter rates about half of the former with under 2m viewers.
And another scheduling cock-up. ITV have scheduled their new 2 part school series - School Swap - The Class Divide opposite BBC2 series 'Are out KIds Tough Enough? Chinese School' at 9pm on Tuesday. Another case of poor planning. With all the slots filled with rpt's and its ends up directly next to another school set series.”
I can't see people switching from Bake Off to watch drama repeats no matter what programme it is. Looks like the Foyle's War repeats now are from the final series. Maybe that's why Vera is taking over?
The school documentary scheduling I can't work out.
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Again Emmerdale deserves to be top soap, its beaten EastEnders, Corrie is going to be more difficult.
I imagine Travel Guides on ITV is another sub 2m rating to add to their week. Their making a real collection now.”
“Again Emmerdale deserves to be top soap, its beaten EastEnders, Corrie is going to be more difficult.
I imagine Travel Guides on ITV is another sub 2m rating to add to their week. Their making a real collection now.”
Travel Guides got 2.6m inc +1
Monday's primetime ratings in full, via Digital Spy:
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...with-375k.html
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...with-375k.html
Mel & Sue has been axed
Source: Broadcast
Another daytime failure - I imagine Hello Campers, Guess This House and Freeze Out will follow suite.
Its good they are trying out many different daytime series, but its scheduling that has let them down. Mel & Sue could have worked, but 3pm would have been a better slot. But it seems they really are not that popular.
Source: Broadcast
Another daytime failure - I imagine Hello Campers, Guess This House and Freeze Out will follow suite.
Its good they are trying out many different daytime series, but its scheduling that has let them down. Mel & Sue could have worked, but 3pm would have been a better slot. But it seems they really are not that popular.
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“I think Partners in Crime is dropping because really, it isn't anything special, its not that good really is it? Well that's my opinion anyway. Its like ITV's Black Work - a bit meh.
4.6m still watching a rpt of Fake of Fortune? I'm sure if ITV gave BBC's line up a bit more competition it wouldn't be so easy to pull in the floating viewers.
Nice to see Nature Nuts rise despite a still poor figure. Bad scheduling has given ITV another sub 2m figure. What a collection they have made this year. They've had more sub 2m figures than any other year. Its just been flop, after flop, after flop. If it wasn't for the soaps , Ch4 would surely be challenging them on weekly shares. Can the bosses at ITV not see how much of a mess 2015 has been, even worse that 2014.”
“I think Partners in Crime is dropping because really, it isn't anything special, its not that good really is it? Well that's my opinion anyway. Its like ITV's Black Work - a bit meh.
4.6m still watching a rpt of Fake of Fortune? I'm sure if ITV gave BBC's line up a bit more competition it wouldn't be so easy to pull in the floating viewers.
Nice to see Nature Nuts rise despite a still poor figure. Bad scheduling has given ITV another sub 2m figure. What a collection they have made this year. They've had more sub 2m figures than any other year. Its just been flop, after flop, after flop. If it wasn't for the soaps , Ch4 would surely be challenging them on weekly shares. Can the bosses at ITV not see how much of a mess 2015 has been, even worse that 2014.”
Rather late here but aren't the repeats of Fake or Fortune higher in ratings than the first showings of those particular episodes
I have news to shake you to your core H Of De VI according to the new Radio Times the BBC are doing a sequal to The White Queen called the White Princess
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Mel & Sue has been axed
Source: Broadcast
Another daytime failure - I imagine Hello Campers, Guess This House and Freeze Out will follow suite.”
“Mel & Sue has been axed
Source: Broadcast
Another daytime failure - I imagine Hello Campers, Guess This House and Freeze Out will follow suite.”
Least surprising broadcasting news of the month so far.
It would be hard to imagine a presenter less suited to ITV daytime than Mel & Sue. The terrible ratings reflected that The only surprising part was that someone at ITV commissioned it in the first place and thought it could work.
Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“Travel Guides got 2.6m inc +1”
“Travel Guides got 2.6m inc +1”
Not much lower than last week. Still pretty poor though.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Least surprising broadcasting news of the month so far.
It would be hard to imagine a presenter less suited to ITV daytime than Mel & Sue. The terrible ratings reflected that The only surprising part was that someone at ITV commissioned it in the first place and thought it could work.”
“Least surprising broadcasting news of the month so far.
It would be hard to imagine a presenter less suited to ITV daytime than Mel & Sue. The terrible ratings reflected that The only surprising part was that someone at ITV commissioned it in the first place and thought it could work.”
Hardly surprising at all. They present Bake Off which gets massive ratings. They are popular with the public. How could this have been predicted?
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Least surprising broadcasting news of the month so far.
It would be hard to imagine a presenter less suited to ITV daytime than Mel & Sue. The terrible ratings reflected that The only surprising part was that someone at ITV commissioned it in the first place and thought it could work.”
“Least surprising broadcasting news of the month so far.
It would be hard to imagine a presenter less suited to ITV daytime than Mel & Sue. The terrible ratings reflected that The only surprising part was that someone at ITV commissioned it in the first place and thought it could work.”
It didn't work the last time they were given a similar show, but I guess ITV thought that they were one of the reasons that Bake Off worked - which it obviously isn't. Bake Off works because all the parts fit together.
The soaps seem stable again with decent ratings, although Eastenders does seem to drop to a similar level for it's Monday and Friday showings. Perhaps 8pm just isn't a fit for the show. A reduction in the number of episodes would work wonders for the quality but it would be seen as an admission that the show isn't working - which it is. We know how the reaction would be viewed. It would be interesting to see two hour long editions of Eastenders on Tuesdays and Thursdays with something different in the Monday and Friday 8pm slots.
BBC 1
13:45: Doctors - 1.61m (21.4%)
* Highest rating since March
17:15: Pointless - 3.35m (28.0%)
18:00: BBC News at Six - 4.98m (33.0%)
18:30: BBC Regional News - 5.28m (32.0%)
19:00: The One Show - 3.52m (19.9%)
19:30: Fake Britain - 2.98m (15.5%)
20:00: EastEnders - 6.15m (29.7%)
20:30: Sherlock - 2.70m (13.2%)
22:00: BBC News at Ten - 4.04m (24.0%)
BBC 2
19:30: Great British Menu - 1.30m (6.8%)
20:00: University Challenge - 2.79m (13.5%)
20:30: Only Connect - 2.04m (9.6%)
21:00: Life in Squares - 760k (3.8%)
ITV
19:00: Emmerdale - 6.33m (35.7%), +1 - 177k (0.9%)
19:30: Coronation Street - 7.02m (36.5%), +1 - 172k (0.8%)
20:00: Vet School - 2.31m (11.1%), +1 - 193k (1.0%)
20:30: Coronation Street - 6.81m (32.1%), +1 - 215k (1.1%)
21:00: Travel Guides - 2.35m (11.8%), +1 - 134k (0.9%)
Channel 4
18:30: Hollyoaks - 852k (5.2%), +1 - 51k (0.3%)
20:00: Flying to the Ends of the Earth - 1.02m (4.9%), +1 - 123k (0.6%)
21:00: 24 Hours in Police Custody - 1.58m (7.9%), +1 - 156k (1.0%)
22:00: Brits Behind Bars - 1.11m (7.5%), +1 - 152k (1.9%)
Channel 5
13:15: Home and Away - 248k (3.2%)
13:45: Neighbours - 686k (9.1%)
17:30: Neighbours - 750k (6.0%)
18:00: Home and Away - 527k (3.5%)
20:00: Stop! Roadworks Ahead - 806k (3.8%), +1 - 81k (0.4%)
21:00: Ben Fogle: New Lives in the Wild - 1.48m (7.4%), +1 - 92k (0.6%)
22:00: Under the Dome - 419k (2.8%), +1 - 78k (1.0%)
BBC 3
22:00: EastEnders - 342k (1.9%)
23:00: Family Guy - 565k (5.8%)
23:25: Family Guy - 645k (8.7%)
23:45: American Dad! - 533k (9.3%)
BBC 4
21:00: Britain’s Nuclear Secrets: Inside Sellafield - 681k (3.4%)
E4
18:30: The Big Bang Theory - 467k (2.9%)
19:00: Hollyoaks - 597k (3.4%), +1 - 95k (0.5%)
21:00: Made in Chelsea: LA - 375k (1.9%), +1 - 157k (0.8%)
More 4
21:00: The Supervet - 479k (2.4%)
Film 4
21:00: Film: Knight and Day - 501k (3.0%)
5*
18:30: Home and Away - 348k (2.1%)
Sky Sports 1
19:00: Live Ford Monday Night Football - 631k (3.4%)
Sky Atlantic
21:00: True Detective - 85k (0.8%)
Dave
21:00: Last Man on Earth - 170k (0.9%)
21:30: Last Man on Earth - 210k (1.1%)
Sources - DS, ITV Media, Dancc
13:45: Doctors - 1.61m (21.4%)
* Highest rating since March
17:15: Pointless - 3.35m (28.0%)
18:00: BBC News at Six - 4.98m (33.0%)
18:30: BBC Regional News - 5.28m (32.0%)
19:00: The One Show - 3.52m (19.9%)
19:30: Fake Britain - 2.98m (15.5%)
20:00: EastEnders - 6.15m (29.7%)
20:30: Sherlock - 2.70m (13.2%)
22:00: BBC News at Ten - 4.04m (24.0%)
BBC 2
19:30: Great British Menu - 1.30m (6.8%)
20:00: University Challenge - 2.79m (13.5%)
20:30: Only Connect - 2.04m (9.6%)
21:00: Life in Squares - 760k (3.8%)
ITV
19:00: Emmerdale - 6.33m (35.7%), +1 - 177k (0.9%)
19:30: Coronation Street - 7.02m (36.5%), +1 - 172k (0.8%)
20:00: Vet School - 2.31m (11.1%), +1 - 193k (1.0%)
20:30: Coronation Street - 6.81m (32.1%), +1 - 215k (1.1%)
21:00: Travel Guides - 2.35m (11.8%), +1 - 134k (0.9%)
Channel 4
18:30: Hollyoaks - 852k (5.2%), +1 - 51k (0.3%)
20:00: Flying to the Ends of the Earth - 1.02m (4.9%), +1 - 123k (0.6%)
21:00: 24 Hours in Police Custody - 1.58m (7.9%), +1 - 156k (1.0%)
22:00: Brits Behind Bars - 1.11m (7.5%), +1 - 152k (1.9%)
Channel 5
13:15: Home and Away - 248k (3.2%)
13:45: Neighbours - 686k (9.1%)
17:30: Neighbours - 750k (6.0%)
18:00: Home and Away - 527k (3.5%)
20:00: Stop! Roadworks Ahead - 806k (3.8%), +1 - 81k (0.4%)
21:00: Ben Fogle: New Lives in the Wild - 1.48m (7.4%), +1 - 92k (0.6%)
22:00: Under the Dome - 419k (2.8%), +1 - 78k (1.0%)
BBC 3
22:00: EastEnders - 342k (1.9%)
23:00: Family Guy - 565k (5.8%)
23:25: Family Guy - 645k (8.7%)
23:45: American Dad! - 533k (9.3%)
BBC 4
21:00: Britain’s Nuclear Secrets: Inside Sellafield - 681k (3.4%)
E4
18:30: The Big Bang Theory - 467k (2.9%)
19:00: Hollyoaks - 597k (3.4%), +1 - 95k (0.5%)
21:00: Made in Chelsea: LA - 375k (1.9%), +1 - 157k (0.8%)
More 4
21:00: The Supervet - 479k (2.4%)
Film 4
21:00: Film: Knight and Day - 501k (3.0%)
5*
18:30: Home and Away - 348k (2.1%)
Sky Sports 1
19:00: Live Ford Monday Night Football - 631k (3.4%)
Sky Atlantic
21:00: True Detective - 85k (0.8%)
Dave
21:00: Last Man on Earth - 170k (0.9%)
21:30: Last Man on Earth - 210k (1.1%)
Sources - DS, ITV Media, Dancc
Well Freeze Out is only a 10 episode pilot series, so if it doesn't get picked up for a full series I'm not sure it's strictly true to say it's been "axed" - the tabloids will though.
There's probably a half decent quiz show in there somewhere if it was tweaked but viewers don't give anything a second chance these days so there is little point tweaking it, in fact I expect most didn't even give it a first chance and just watched Pointless instead.
Doing something to generate a number of points which a question is then worth, is no different to many other quiz shows. Wheel of Fortune, Bullseye etc.
There's probably a half decent quiz show in there somewhere if it was tweaked but viewers don't give anything a second chance these days so there is little point tweaking it, in fact I expect most didn't even give it a first chance and just watched Pointless instead.
Doing something to generate a number of points which a question is then worth, is no different to many other quiz shows. Wheel of Fortune, Bullseye etc.
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