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I'd rather watch both SCD and XF in the comfort of my own home!
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No. I'm still hopeful that it will be at 9pm. I think it could do really well in that slot with lots of promotion.
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Yeah,it's too short notice to get regular Sunday episodes out there. Corrie especially is very busy with their live episode at the moment (one that has been forced upon them) and if they're asked to also throw in an extra episode every week up to Christmas they would be very justified in telling ITV to go swivel.
The earliest they could get regular Sunday episodes ready for is Mid-October, if they absolutely demanded them. One decent hour doesn't help the whole night if what follows doesn't work. ITV relied so much on soaps that if they moved the episodes to Sunday it would free up the week for BBC1. It is also ITV admitting defeat and meaning more talk of them relying on soaps. It's not all doom and gloom with Doc Martin, Downton and I'm A Celebrity to come plus more drama next year. |
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Doesn't get them watching though. That's the problem.
However, sometimes this can get worrying as when Channel 4 cancelled BB, some idiot sent death threats to the Channel 4 offices. Actually Channel 4 don't seem to miss BB at all and their creative renewal which saw BB and other worn out shows like Shipwrecked and Supernanny cancelled has slowly worked. Hits like Benefit St, My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding( big as Eastenders on some weeks) and Gogglebox have seen the channel revive after some lean years after BB. |
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I wonder when BARB start counting mobile and tablet viewing will the numbers rise?[/quote]
This Thursday. |
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Both X Factor and BB have some scary hardcore fans. There are regular discussions on the BB forums about events that happened in series that took place 10 or more years ago.
However these people are not enough to make a show a big hit again. I must say though that the XF figures are shocking. I thought it would probably stay pretty flat this year - instead it is still in the freefall it has been in since 2012. |
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I wonder when BARB start counting mobile and tablet viewing will the numbers rise?
There are a lit of people who do not watch TV live currently to avoid paying the LF, A thing the government has promised to correct. It maybe why viewing figures have fallen of. |
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[quote=cylon6;79441491]Oh God not soaps on Sunday again!
One decent hour doesn't help the whole night if what follows doesn't work. ITV relied so much on soaps that if they moved the episodes to Sunday it would free up the week for BBC1. It is also ITV admitting defeat and meaning more talk of them relying on soaps. It's not all doom and gloom with Doc Martin, Downton and I'm A Celebrity to come plus more drama next year.[/QUOTE Don't forget the RUWC and three England football qualifiers. Next summer ITV have the Euros to chivvy them up. |
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This Thursday.
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There are a lit of people who do not watch TV live currently to avoid paying the LF, A thing the government has promised to correct. It maybe why viewing figures have fallen of.
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I wonder when BARB start counting mobile and tablet viewing will the numbers rise?
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This Thursday.
Will be fascinating to see these figures - I am not sure what to expect.
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No, no, no. no. Soaps should not be moved back to Sunday because ITV are struggling. They need to find hit, not clogg up another day with the tired Corrie under The Hat.
If ITV move the soaps back to Sunday, ITV will be even less creative. They need better schedulers and commissioners. One thing ITV do need to do is make sure IAC doesn't fall this year. Its going to have a much lower lead, so they need to get some bigger names and not loose the audience for this as well. |
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Will be fascinating to see these figures - I am not sure what to expect.
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Don't forget the RUWC and three England football qualifiers. Next summer ITV have the Euros to chivvy them up.
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I was thinking more back in the 60s - the first two series of Dad's Army only ran to six episodes each although series three ran to 14 and series four to 13, no mean achievement for only two writers.
I believe Steptoe and Till Death were six episodes in each series. The Liver Birds managed 12 in its second series, and 13 for 3 and 4 (when Carla Lane was sole writer). |
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Like BB, TXF has developed an online fan base who follow it like some people follow a football team. BB is a case in point, it's vastly down on its peak ten years ago, but has a hardened fanbase who spend a lot of time on the BB forum.
However, sometimes this can get worrying as when Channel 4 cancelled BB, some idiot sent death threats to the Channel 4 offices. Actually Channel 4 don't seem to miss BB at all and their creative renewal which saw BB and other worn out shows like Shipwrecked and Supernanny cancelled has slowly worked. Hits like Benefit St, My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding( big as Eastenders on some weeks) and Gogglebox have seen the channel revive after some lean years after BB. |
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Will be fascinating to see these figures - I am not sure what to expect.
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A disappointing weekend for X Factor. I actually enjoyed the first two shows and didn't think they were that bad - I like the new judging panel, and Olly and Caroline work well together. But it appears people just aren't as interested anymore. I agree with Score, maybe they should look to reduce the number of hours the show does next year. In the context of ITV, it's still doing well - on the same level as the ITV soaps now, rather than being way out in front.
But it's not the phenomenon it once was and they need to be careful not to alienate the remaining viewers by overexposing it. So I think a reduced episode order next year is the way to go. Celebrity Big Brother also not doing too well. I can't really see it picking up. If you've missed the launch and first few episodes, will you bother catching up? I think it will increase a bit tonight, but I think it'll be stuck in the low 1s for the remainder of the series which is disappointing for the celebrity version. I've just been catching up with Pound Shop Wars on BBC iplayer - it's a really entertaining programme, with some great characters that the cameras follow round. I can see why it's doing well opposite Corrie. |
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This Thursday.
As far as I can tell, they're using the same 5,100 homes, who I expect have a TV licence. They need to get a panel of non-payers, But I expect many of those watch live as well as on demand. |
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I remember reading it on here but cant see anything that confirms it anywhere.
It might end up being like the Last of the Summer Wine situation, where the BBC Press Office didn't mention it for seven years. |
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X factor still has an influence on the music charts! The song performanced at the end of last nights episode is currently storming the iTunes Charts. It was a fantastic episode, even if the ratings don't reflect it.
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Both X Factor and BB have some scary hardcore fans. There are regular discussions on the BB forums about events that happened in series that took place 10 or more years ago.
However these people are not enough to make a show a big hit again. I must say though that the XF figures are shocking. I thought it would probably stay pretty flat this year - instead it is still in the freefall it has been in since 2012. |
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That's great for Syco, does sod all for ITV if the ratings are down.
They'll make it for as long as ITV wants it. Only they know how long that is but I suspect this talk of Cowell pulling the plug if ratings drop below a certain level is nonsense. As I've said already, rather than ending it completely looking at reducing the 45-50 hour order to 25-30 hours would be a less risky way of cutting X Factor's presence and launching some new stuff without ditching the show completely. |
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Like BB, TXF has developed an online fan base who follow it like some people follow a football team. BB is a case in point, it's vastly down on its peak ten years ago, but has a hardened fanbase who spend a lot of time on the BB forum.
However, sometimes this can get worrying as when Channel 4 cancelled BB, some idiot sent death threats to the Channel 4 offices. Actually Channel 4 don't seem to miss BB at all and their creative renewal which saw BB and other worn out shows like Shipwrecked and Supernanny cancelled has slowly worked. Hits like Benefit St, My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding( big as Eastenders on some weeks) and Gogglebox have seen the channel revive after some lean years after BB. |
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Oh God not soaps on Sunday again!
One decent hour doesn't help the whole night if what follows doesn't work. ITV relied so much on soaps that if they moved the episodes to Sunday it would free up the week for BBC1. It is also ITV admitting defeat and meaning more talk of them relying on soaps. It's not all doom and gloom with Doc Martin, Downton and I'm A Celebrity to come plus more drama next year. |
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