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Making booze from Vegemite?
Odd story at the Bbc.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-33839742 Quote:
Australia's government says some communities should consider limiting the sale of the popular Vegemite spread because it is being used to make alcohol.. So Vegemite is the upside down and inferior version of Marmite (sorry antipodeans). Both made by-..He said it was being bought in bulk to make moonshine. Brewer's yeast is a key ingredient in the spread and is used in the production of beer and ale. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autolysis_%28biology%29 In the food industry, autolysis involves killing the yeast and encouraging breakdown of its cells by various enzymes. It is used to give different flavors. For yeast extract, when this process is triggered by the addition of salt, it is known as plasmolysis. So any yeast is long dead, and the high salt content in Vegemite (and Marmite) would kill any yeast in booze it's added to. So is someone just winding up the Bbc? |
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No idea but I do wonder why anyone would use this delicious delicacy like that, far superior to Marmite which is the food of the devil.
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Vegemite is lovely and thick. Marmite has gone all runny and very messy.
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Well, even if the yeast in vegemite is still viable, you don't need to buy vast quantities of it. One jar would kick off a brew and when thats finished simply harvest the yeast from the sediment off the bottom of that brew for your next. Either the BBC is being wound up or the Aussie authorities are, mind you never underestimate the need for "The Man" to be seen to be doing something, even if that something is totally OTT and pointless.
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Vegemite is delicious!, Marmite is way too runny.
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That's what I don't get. Unless you were making VegeVodka, it'd be easier to stick with fruit or fruit juice and it's not exactly difficult to find yeast.
Oh, and Marmite > Vegemite! (Then again, not had Vegemite in years. Personally I found it a bit sweeter than Marmite) |
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Surely it's the other way round. You use yeast to make your brew and then get yeast extract from the resulting sludge?
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Maybe the Vegemite is for flavour rather than a source of yeast? By the time it's diluted, I doubt the salt content would be enough to kill the fresh yeast. It's probably easier to use a spoon of that than boil up hops. And the smell wouldn't attract passing cops.
You can also produce booze from supermarket potatoes. Perhaps they should licence them rather than sell spuds freely? |
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No idea what it's doing to the moonshine, but half a teaspoon of Marmite/Vegemite adds a nice kick to gravy.
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No idea but I do wonder why anyone would use this delicious delicacy like that, far superior to Marmite which is the food of the devil.
If abroad and they only had Marmite I'd buy one but over here I always go for Vegemite. As some of you have said it's probably a tad sweet & less runny. ( sorry haven't mastered multi quoting on here yet.) 😳 |
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And there's more! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-33843910 Quote:
The minister added that in some cases, children were failing to turn up to school because they were too hung-over, and that Vegemite was an increasingly common factor in domestic violence cases.
Whereas Marmite makes me mellow. And alliterate
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I prefer Vegemite to marmite too! It's more rounded in flavour - what is it? I mean to look up ingredients but forget.
If abroad and they only had Marmite I'd buy one but over here I always go for Vegemite. As some of you have said it's probably a tad sweet & less runny. ( sorry haven't mastered multi quoting on here yet.) 😳 |
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Maybe the Vegemite is for flavour rather than a source of yeast? By the time it's diluted, I doubt the salt content would be enough to kill the fresh yeast. It's probably easier to use a spoon of that than boil up hops. And the smell wouldn't attract passing cops.
You can also produce booze from supermarket potatoes. Perhaps they should licence them rather than sell spuds freely? |
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why would you brew with vegemite?
is it just for a yeast starter? can they not get a bottle of guiness in Australia. You can start a brew with that. You used to be able to anyway. A few beers used to contain live yeast. Worthington white shield is a good one, I think. it's a lovely beer. I can't remember seeing it on the shelves in Asda though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worthi...s_White_Shield mind you, maybe not so easy http://byo.com/hops/item/1333-round-...t-from-bottles |
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Gemma- the areas where this is alledged to happen are supposed to be 'dry', so no, beer wouldn't be easily available. Though I'dve still thought other sources of yeast would be more useful than vegemite by the truckload.
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Gemma- the areas where this is alledged to happen are supposed to be 'dry', so no, beer wouldn't be easily available. Though I'dve still thought other sources of yeast would be more useful than vegemite by the truckload.
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Though I'dve still thought other sources of yeast would be more useful than vegemite by the truckload.
But this has prompted me to look into home distallation now that's legal. Not sure I'll be making Marmite Vodka any time soon, much as I love Marmite |
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There's something a bit odd about this. Why can't they just go into a shop and buy sachets of brewers' yeast, which is cheaper than Vegemite? Failing that, baking yeast would do a better job than Vegemite, (which I don't think would work at all anyway). Then there are brewers' yeast tablets, widely sold as Vitamin B supplements – I don't know if they would work, but assuming that Vegemite does actually work, they would also. You don't actually need prepared yeast to make hooch anyway. You can make a potent cider, simply by mashing up a load of apples and sealing them in a barrel for a year. The natural yeasts that will have settled on them are all that's required.
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A lot of traditional wines simply use the natural yeast on the grapes - that sort of whitish bloom you see on darker grapes is yeast.
Some beers also use natural yeasts, but its all a bit hit 'n miss so a starter of known yeast would normally be used. With regard to the original story - it may all be internet bull anyway: No Vegemite watch It does give just a hint though that treatment of indigenous people in "the lucky country" may not be all it could be... |
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I tried Vegemite once and couldn't stand it. I always liked Marmite on toast (especially with peanut butter), but the extremely high salt content is very bad for your blood pressure.
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I tried Vegemite once and couldn't stand it. I always liked Marmite on toast (especially with peanut butter), but the extremely high salt content is very bad for your blood pressure.
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