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Old 10-08-2015, 19:29
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Is there anyway they can haver her realistically avoid a lengthy prison sentence for involuntary manslaughter now she's confessed
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Old 10-08-2015, 19:40
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Maybe the fact that she couldn't be expected to foresee the danger to those in the village hall/mirror maze even though her act was dangerous and unlawful.

It's quite a chain of events which led to Val's death in particular.
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Old 10-08-2015, 19:59
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That's pretty much what involuntary manslaughter is though, and there would be 3 charges of it
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Old 10-08-2015, 20:02
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That's pretty much what involuntary manslaughter is though, and there would be 3 charges of it
Yes but the fact that she couldn't foresee the fire causing damage to a passing helicopter, that helicopter crashing into another building some distance away which happened to be full of people, and that building exploding and causing damage to another building will surely benefit her case. Yes technically she should have foreseen some danger but it's hardly a straight forward case.
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Old 10-08-2015, 20:03
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Irrespective of the legal side, common sense would show that it was ultimately an accident caused by her stupid but not planned actions. I doubt she'd get a prison sentence at all.
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Old 10-08-2015, 20:08
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A factory owner in my local area just got 10 years because a machine caught an apprentice overalls and crashed him to death, manslaughter is when an accident causes death when someone is at fault. Of course she could not have forsaken what would happen but that is the difference between murder and manslaughter.

There are different degrees of manslaughter and this would count as involuntary, but with three counts of it, you would still be looking at a lengthy sentence.
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Old 10-08-2015, 20:21
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Is there anyway they can haver her realistically avoid a lengthy prison sentence for involuntary manslaughter now she's confessed
Maybe they will pull a Tracey Barlow and have her get off on a technicality
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Old 10-08-2015, 20:26
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I hope she's not going!!! Louise Marwood might not exactly be oscar worthy bit she's improved dramatically of late, and I love Chrissie. This boards perfect time to bring in her little sister as a support, and expand the Whites, there need to be more of them to pad out Home Farm
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Old 10-08-2015, 20:30
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I hope she's not going!!! Louise Marwood might not exactly be oscar worthy bit she's improved dramatically of late, and I love Chrissie. This boards perfect time to bring in her little sister as a support, and expand the Whites, there need to be more of them to pad out Home Farm
bib: Yes, I think she will appear at some point.

I think Chrissie might get a suspended sentence, and endure dirty looks from the villagers for quite a while yet.

Rakesh is bound to be involved in any trial.
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Old 10-08-2015, 20:35
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I really hope not. Love the Whites.
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Old 10-08-2015, 20:47
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A factory owner in my local area just got 10 years because a machine caught an apprentice overalls and crashed him to death, manslaughter is when an accident causes death when someone is at fault. Of course she could not have forsaken what would happen but that is the difference between murder and manslaughter.

There are different degrees of manslaughter and this would count as involuntary, but with three counts of it, you would still be looking at a lengthy sentence.
thats a bit different, he is the employer so has to ensure that his staff are working in a safe environment, did he get done for corporate manslaughter?

As for chrissie, she didnt really have any intent to kill nor could she have possibly known that the helicopter would be overhead or that the gas canisters were there. Its nothing more than a freak accident but this day in age someone has to be culpable

edit not sure I agree with your definition, the difference between murder and manslaughter is intent.
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Old 10-08-2015, 20:52
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I hope she doesn't get sent down. She was not to know what was going to happen. It was clearly an accident, its not like others in the village haven't be a cause of an accident!

If anybody is to blame, it Robert for without his affair she wouldn't have set fire to his car!!
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Old 10-08-2015, 20:55
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bib: Yes, I think she will appear at some point.

I think Chrissie might get a suspended sentence, and endure dirty looks from the villagers for quite a while yet.
this is what I think will happen, but I don't like it. It's a cop out and unrealstick to get a suspend sentence for something that causes 3 deaths ( I'm aware it was an accident that she could not have forsaken happening but if you google involuntary manslaughter that's pretty much the definition )

Chrissie is one of my favourite characters and I really like Louise but if they didn't want to write her out even for a few years they should have A had a different charcther responsible or B had them cover it up. I just think it's a complete cop out when they rely on "soap logic" to cover implausibility.

Soaps get annoyed when they are not taken seriously but i don't think it's the acting that's the problem,often the acting is very capable it's the regularity in which they require us to use our suspension of disbelief that turns people away.

If you have talented writers you don't always need big story's you can be entertained by the interaction between interesting characters, look at the royal family the whole success of the show was based on this and they only had 2 writers, surely when you have a full team of writers that are ever changing you can rely on something more than asking the audience to suspend disbelief so often.

Apologies for long or if I offended anyone, I just think they should aspire to more than saying it's only a soap it doesn't need to be realistic because I think they need to have a level of realis.
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Old 10-08-2015, 20:57
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thats a bit different, he is the employer so has to ensure that his staff are working in a safe environment, did he get done for corporate manslaughter?

As for chrissie, she didnt really have any intent to kill nor could she have possibly known that the helicopter would be overhead or that the gas canisters were there. Its nothing more than a freak accident but this day in age someone has to be culpable

edit not sure I agree with your definition, the difference between murder and manslaughter is intent.
But involuntary manslaughter does not require intent, it's if the action is illegal and dangerous, which setting fire to a car is both.
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Old 10-08-2015, 21:00
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If anybody is to blame, it Robert for without his affair she wouldn't have set fire to his car!!
Robert didn't tell her go pull a "Waiting to Exhale", Chrissy is a grown ass woman with a mind of her own and is responsible for her own actions.
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Old 10-08-2015, 21:07
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Robert didn't tell her go pull a "Waiting to Exhale", Chrissy is a grown ass woman with a mind of her own and is responsible for her own actions.
At least she's taken responsibility and admitted her guilt, she clearly feels totally responsible and fully intends to accept her punishment.

I'm glad there was no long drawn out cover up, and that Chrissie showed that she has a moral compass. She's a good person who made a tragic mistake, she has to live with the blood on her hands of those victims for the rest of her life, and for someone as highly strung as Chrissie, that's punishment enough if you ask me.
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Old 10-08-2015, 21:11
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At least she's taken responsibility and admitted her guilt, she clearly feels totally responsible and fully intends to accept her punishment.

I'm glad there was no long drawn out cover up, and that Chrissie showed that she has a moral compass. She's a good person who made a tragic mistake, she has to live with the blood on her hands of those victims for the rest of her life, and for someone as highly strung as Chrissie, that's punishment enough if you ask me.
She only feels guilty because innocent people died. I bet if Robert died and no one else did she would feel no guilt
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Old 10-08-2015, 21:14
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bib: Yes, I think she will appear at some point.

I think Chrissie might get a suspended sentence, and endure dirty looks from the villagers for quite a while yet.

Rakesh is bound to be involved in any trial.
Yes he'll be in the witness nox for sure
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Old 10-08-2015, 22:17
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thats a bit different, he is the employer so has to ensure that his staff are working in a safe environment, did he get done for corporate manslaughter?

As for chrissie, she didnt really have any intent to kill nor could she have possibly known that the helicopter would be overhead or that the gas canisters were there. Its nothing more than a freak accident but this day in age someone has to be culpable

edit not sure I agree with your definition, the difference between murder and manslaughter is intent.
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They were bright red and sat just a couple of feet away from where she was standing, Stevie Wonder could have seen them.

We aren't talking about someone accidentally knocking a candle off a table into a pile of newspapers and starting a fire here. It was a "freak accident" caused by a deliberate and dangerous act of vandalism which was motivated by revenge.
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Old 10-08-2015, 22:24
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Is there anyway they can haver her realistically avoid a lengthy prison sentence for involuntary manslaughter now she's confessed
She set fire to a family car. End of
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Old 10-08-2015, 22:27
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She set fire to a family car. End of
Which caused an explosion resulting in three people dying.end of.
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Old 10-08-2015, 22:39
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We could go on all night wrangling with the legalities of her actions but I'd say she's fairly safe. The character is rather popular and part of one the shows most important (if not tiny) families.

She'll get off on a technicality. I'd be surprised if she were actually sent down.
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Old 10-08-2015, 22:39
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Car + Petrol + lighter + gas canisters = explosion

explosion + nearby family homes + nearby road + nearby people (Chrissie, Robert) = bad, very bad


what in the name of Christ did she think would happen if she set a car alight?

I find it hard to believe that she wouldn't get a prison sentence, Adam did and that was a fire with no fatalities. But soap law decrees all prison sentences will be short, unless the character is leaving and I don't see Chrissie going just yet.
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Old 10-08-2015, 22:45
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Which caused an explosion resulting in three people dying.end of.
I think it's somewhat debatable as to whether setting fire to the car was a direct cause of the deaths. Should the helicopter pilot have been flying directly above a fire so low to the ground? Also Robert thought he'd put out the fire which is also a crucial event as it shows that the fire wasn't deliberately left burning but it was an accident.
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Old 10-08-2015, 22:50
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But then she may be responsible for Ruby and the pilot getting killed but for Vals death surely Doug, Rodney and Eric are also all equally to be blamed for it?!
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