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Old 10-08-2015, 22:29
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Maybe I'm going a bit Hollywood here, but could EE be bluffing with Bobby being the killer?

Now, I may have lost bits of the plotline here, but is it feasible for Bobby to have just knocked her out with the jewellery box, at this point, Bobby has ran off upstairs, to hide, or just get out of the way of his mental sister..... then she's come too, gone off and had a row with Max, who himself accidently killed her, before dumping her body back at her house?

Bobbys come downstairs, seen Lucy on the floor, and still assumed she's out cold from the flying jewellery box, at which point Janes walked in, assume its Bobby (as he himself has too) and covered for him...

This is more unbelievable than what we are being led to believe as things go, maybe I'm going a bit overboard,.. But just thought id throw it out?

This way, Max would still go down (explaining the actors year break) ... What happens after that is obviously up to DTC 😂
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Old 10-08-2015, 22:43
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Why would Max dump her body back at her house??

Sure if he had killed her, he wouldn't have put her body back in her living room! He would have dumped it somewhere else

Bobby def dealt the fatal blow
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Old 10-08-2015, 22:44
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Absolutely.

Bobby didn't kill her, she died of a culmination of head injuries and probably passed out at the jewellery box lob point, having had a small brain haemorrhage leaking for hours

Jane is much much more ghastly, dragging poor Lucy's body to leave it on the common in the cold.

Also why would a post mortem not show that her various head injuries were caused by different surfaces....crap coroner
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Old 10-08-2015, 22:48
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[quote=chloeb;79227479]Absolutely.

Bobby didn't kill her, she died of a culmination of head injuries and probably passed out at the jewellery box lob point, having had a small brain haemorrhage leaking for hours

Jane is much much more ghastly, dragging poor Lucy's body to leave it on the common in the cold.[/QUOTE

this is the same theory I believe in, I posted a thread on it a few weeks ago. It is the same as when someone is beat up by a gang of people, no one gang member is responsible, it is the cumulative blows.
I also agree on Jane.
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Old 10-08-2015, 23:04
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If Bobby gets found out then maybe everyone should admit their physical encounters with Lucy. Max, Jake, Denise, Abi. Then they could possibly work out that there was not just one bang to Lucy's head but a few. That could get Bobby off the hook.
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Old 10-08-2015, 23:10
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Oh my goodness, could you imagine....

Remember we never actually saw Bobby killing Lucy.......And Lucys "oh it's you" line .......we never saw who she said that too. Jane has obviously never discussed things with Bobby. She could have been protecting somebody else this whole time
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Old 10-08-2015, 23:18
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On the day she died Max pushed her over causing her to bang her head, Jake punched her in the face whilst drunk, Abi beat her up off-screen and she had a physical fight with Denise. Surely her death was caused by a combination of all of these head traumas. Bobby hitting her (not very hard) with a soft jewellery box may have been what finished her off but I don't believe for one second it was the sole cause of her death. Max, Jake, Abi and Denise all played a part in her death though none of them know it due to Jane dumping her on the common they will all assume she was murdered out there by someone else and possibly never know their own guilt.
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Old 10-08-2015, 23:32
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On the day she died Max pushed her over causing her to bang her head, Jake punched her in the face whilst drunk, Abi beat her up off-screen and she had a physical fight with Denise. Surely her death was caused by a combination of all of these head traumas. Bobby hitting her (not very hard) with a soft jewellery box may have been what finished her off but I don't believe for one second it was the sole cause of her death. Max, Jake, Abi and Denise all played a part her death though none of them know it due to Jane dumping her on the common thigey will all assume she was murdered out there by someone else and possibly never know their own guilt.
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I agree with the outline to this, despite other posters mocking me, I have previously suggested similar to this, Jayne assumed Bobby killed Lucy because of what he said to her, We do not know the timeline between hitting her then phoning Jayne, it has always been assumed that he phoned as soon as he hit her but he could have went back up the stairs then came down some time later and found her lying there. we do not know if she fell when he hit her, If you recall there was a scene with Max outside the Beales house and we never saw where he went,.
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Old 11-08-2015, 00:04
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If it's not I would be really pleased! And shocked! I'd prefer the killer to be Abi. Abi has the potential to be a murderer, and a psychopathic one at that.
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Old 11-08-2015, 02:21
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This would actually be a great twist and fits in with DTCs comments about the killer not knowing they did it
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Old 11-08-2015, 02:34
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I love the logic in this thread & agree. But its like with Lisa covering up for Bell in ED all theyve done is make him look guilty.

But the kid needs help with his temper or someone else will suffer
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Old 11-08-2015, 02:49
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This would actually be a great twist and fits in with DTCs comments about the killer not knowing they did it
Bobby doesn't know he did it. Jane told him Lucy was fine afterwards, went out and was killed by someone else on that night.

And OP, I don't get why you called Lucy mental? In the live reveal episode, Jane referred to Lucy as a nightmare, I don't get it. Ok, she took drugs, but it's not like she became violent or out of control on them like we saw Peter did on his 21st birthday. She had a secret addiction and a fling with her best friend's father but to everyone else's eyes, she was trying to sort her life out after losing her job at Janine's place and finding out Danny was leading Johnny on behind her back. She started her own business with Lauren and had the intention of really making a go of it, if I remember rightly, it was Ian who was making things awkward for everyone. He was steamrolling over everyone, upsetting people left, right and center while Jane had to smooth things over and fix everything.
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Old 11-08-2015, 07:31
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Yes, it was.

Also max, abi, jake, denise contributed.
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Old 11-08-2015, 08:00
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Final blow by Bobby. The other blows are just to make more of the story so that others have s valid reason for believing it could be them as she was found on the Common.
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Old 11-08-2015, 09:20
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This would actually be a great twist and fits in with DTCs comments about the killer not knowing they did it
Bobby doesnt know he did it
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Old 11-08-2015, 09:28
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It's definitely Bobby, no doubt about that. Bobby delivered the fatal blow.
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Old 11-08-2015, 11:01
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Bobby doesn't know he did it. Jane told him Lucy was fine afterwards, went out and was killed by someone else on that night.

And OP, I don't get why you called Lucy mental? In the live reveal episode, Jane referred to Lucy as a nightmare, I don't get it. Ok, she took drugs, but it's not like she became violent or out of control on them like we saw Peter did on his 21st birthday. She had a secret addiction and a fling with her best friend's father but to everyone else's eyes, she was trying to sort her life out after losing her job at Janine's place and finding out Danny was leading Johnny on behind her back. She started her own business with Lauren and had the intention of really making a go of it, if I remember rightly, it was Ian who was making things awkward for everyone. He was steamrolling over everyone, upsetting people left, right and center while Jane had to smooth things over and fix everything.
Where did I say he does know what he did. I said new twist would keep to those comments too
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Old 11-08-2015, 11:03
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Bobby doesnt know he did it
I never said her did know (hand on face moment). I said the new twist if it was true would still fit in with his comments.

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Old 11-08-2015, 11:40
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It's like Murder on The Orient Express, they all did it!
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Old 11-08-2015, 13:18
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Absolutely.

Bobby didn't kill her, she died of a culmination of head injuries and probably passed out at the jewellery box lob point, having had a small brain haemorrhage leaking for hours

Jane is much much more ghastly, dragging poor Lucy's body to leave it on the common in the cold.

Also why would a post mortem not show that her various head injuries were caused by different surfaces....crap coroner
I have been saying this since the flashback episode, hit by Jake, 'battered' by Abi and Denise also had a fight which left her with a bloody lip. I am probably forgetting something as well.

The Jewelerry Box was just the straw that broke the camels back IMO.
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Old 11-08-2015, 13:38
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I tend to agree with the theory that they all contributed to Lucy's death but I am still not 100% convinced that Bobby dealt the final blow. In the flashback episode Max was last seen walking towards the Beale's back door and we never saw what came next if I am not mistaken. Plus I always thought it was odd that the front door was ajar when Jane arrived after Bobby's call. They were all at home so why have the door open? I doubt that Bobby had the presence of mind to open it for Jane in the state he was in. So someone (possibly Max) could have come in the back door, seen her slumped on the floor, dealt the final blow and escaped out the front door while Bobby was talking to Jane on the phone.

All that aside, whoever did the autopsy must have been having a seriously bad day to miss all the different blows to the head that Lucy sustained that day.......
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Old 11-08-2015, 13:43
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it's sooooo obvious it's not going to be the kid. i don't watch soaps faithfully so possibly shouldn't comment, but unless (as i said in another post) you saw an uninterrupted scene during the live episode of the kid whacking her, her falling, being discovered by (Jane?) with no one else entering/leaving the house then i'd hedge my bets it ain't been the kid.

tbh thought that all along.
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Old 11-08-2015, 15:31
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I think DTC is becoming to EE what Steven Moffat is to Doctor Who - a spinner of tall tales, half-truths and red herrings!!
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Old 11-08-2015, 15:39
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I tend to agree with the theory that they all contributed to Lucy's death but I am still not 100% convinced that Bobby dealt the final blow. In the flashback episode Max was last seen walking towards the Beale's back door and we never saw what came next if I am not mistaken. Plus I always thought it was odd that the front door was ajar when Jane arrived after Bobby's call. They were all at home so why have the door open? I doubt that Bobby had the presence of mind to open it for Jane in the state he was in. So someone (possibly Max) could have come in the back door, seen her slumped on the floor, dealt the final blow and escaped out the front door while Bobby was talking to Jane on the phone.

All that aside, whoever did the autopsy must have been having a seriously bad day to miss all the different blows to the head that Lucy sustained that day.......
but why would Max kill her? in her own home? risky to say the least!

I really dont think Max killed her

Agree that someone could have come in the door but I dont think it was Max

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Old 11-08-2015, 15:47
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Jane could be the killer. This would explain why she shoved Lucy in the boot and left her on the common.
She wasn't covering for Bobby, she was covering for herself!
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