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Old 11-08-2015, 20:16
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So if Chrissie didn't light the car on fire, she wouldn't have died. But if the other idiots hadn't locked Val and Diane in the house of mirrors, Val wouldn't have died either. They are flinging blame around, but I think the boys are just as likely to blame as Chrissy?
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Old 11-08-2015, 20:20
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Agreed and I have absolutely no idea why Eric, Doug and Rodders are not tearing themselves apart with guilt after locking them in, then leaving them there overnight, with no food, water or anywhere even to pee. Doesn't seem to have occurred to Diane yet either.

For the moment I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they're all still in shock, but I'll be very unhappy if the issue isn't addressed fairly soon.
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Old 11-08-2015, 20:24
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Agreed and I have absolutely no idea why Eric, Doug and Rodders are not tearing themselves apart with guilt after locking them in, then leaving them there overnight, with no food, water or anywhere even to pee. Doesn't seem to have occurred to Diane yet either.

For the moment I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they're all still in shock, but I'll be very unhappy if the issue isn't addressed fairly soon.
Im actually in utter disbelief that no body has copped on to this.
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Old 11-08-2015, 20:26
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Im actually in utter disbelief that no body has copped on to this.
Eric truly is the last person to be like this to Chrissie. At least she didn't purposely kill someone - unlike him in his former days in the village.
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Old 11-08-2015, 20:28
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Eric truly is the last person to be like this to Chrissie. At least she didn't purposely kill someone - unlike him in his former days in the village.
I think its his reaction that has annoyed me the most. I know he has lost his wife, but I don't see one shred of guilt that he was partly responsible.
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Old 11-08-2015, 20:31
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I was SCREAMING at Chrissie to retort with a reference to how he's also partially to blame but no one at all has even mentioned it! It beggars belief.

I wouldn't be having that old duffer call the shots to me when he also had a hand in her death! Even if the copter hadn't crashed, he locked her in there and left her OVERNIGHT!
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Old 11-08-2015, 20:32
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Rodney and Eric need to face up to their actions.

Also how nasty was Ashley tonight. What an advert for Christianity eh
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Old 11-08-2015, 20:34
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Rodney and Eric need to face up to their actions.

Also how nasty was Ashley tonight. What an advert for Christianity eh
Baffling Sorcha. Ashley surprised me the most, he could have at least gone after her and given her some advice or support, instead he just threw her to the wolves and left her for dead!! Poor Chrissie!!
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Old 11-08-2015, 20:35
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It was awful treatment of Chrissie, they would never treat a Dingle like that!

It was a freak accident, it wasn't like she drove her car into the village hall on purpose or torched the hall knowing people were in there! Also, the way they all treated Bob was ridiculous!
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Old 11-08-2015, 20:37
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They are BOTH to blame.

Whilst no-one could have forseen the bizarre chain of events that led to her death - they both undertook reckless acts without giving any thought to the consequences.

Eric stayed away all night - was Val & Diane supposed to be locked in there overnight.
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Old 11-08-2015, 20:40
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I am surprised Diane hasn't kicked off at Eric and Doug yet, she knew they locked her in and left them
Hope it all comes out at the inquest.

Wouldn't the owners of the scrapyard get some blame for not storing the gas canisters safely.
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Old 11-08-2015, 20:43
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I really wanted Eric to hug Chrissie. She must be feeling unreal.

Poor Chrissie. At least Chaz loves you and that's a huge compliment.
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Old 11-08-2015, 20:46
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Its been annoying me since it happened. Nobody, not even themselves, have blamed them for locking Diane and val in there.

Eric/rodney/doug didn't think a helicopter would crash into the building that day.. But similarly, Chrissie (while clearly at fault) wouldn't expect torching a car miles away to lead to that.
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Old 11-08-2015, 20:54
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Its been annoying me since it happened. Nobody, not even themselves, have blamed them for locking Diane and val in there.

Eric/rodney/doug didn't think a helicopter would crash into the building that day.. But similarly, Chrissie (while clearly at fault) wouldn't expect torching a car miles away to lead to that.
This!

Couldn't agree more! At least Chrissie has owned up to what she has done and taking the blame.

Eric, Rodney or Doug have even said they think its their fault as to why they were in the ride in the first place! Obviously I understand that it isn't a legal matter, but I thought it would have played on their conscience!
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Old 11-08-2015, 20:55
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It's Eric's own fault ( and Rodney and Doug for letting him do something so stupid). If he hadn't locked them in, they would have wandered out as soon as the they heard the crash. He wasn't to know a helicopter would crash into the hall, but he did know that he chose to lock two people into a box full of glass and bugger off to the pub in the next village for the whole day. He should apologise to Chrissie.
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Old 11-08-2015, 20:59
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They are BOTH to blame.

Whilst no-one could have forseen the bizarre chain of events that led to her death - they both undertook reckless acts without giving any thought to the consequences.

Eric stayed away all night - was Val & Diane supposed to be locked in there overnight.
I agree with this, Eric and Chrissy both played a role in Val's demise.
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Old 11-08-2015, 21:03
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I genuinely thought Eric had showed up to offer Chrissie some comfort by apportioning himself some of the blame, instead he was simply there to facilitate her temporary exit by banishing her to the lovely Rebecca's!!!
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Old 11-08-2015, 21:03
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They didn't tell anybody what they had done, they were planning on leaving them in there with no food or water, and planned on staying out overnight and ignored their mobiles, so as much as they didn't do as much damage as Chrissie, they are not completely innocent!
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Old 11-08-2015, 21:05
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They didn't tell anybody what they had done, they were planning on leaving them in there with no food or water, and planned on staying out overnight and ignored their mobiles, so as much as they didn't do as much damage as Chrissie, they are not completely innocent!
Exactly but seem devoid of any guilt whatsoever!
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Old 11-08-2015, 21:05
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Proximate Cause.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximate_cause

In the law, a proximate cause is an event sufficiently related to a legally recognizable injury to be held to be the cause of that injury.

Cause-in-fact is determined by the "but for" test: But for the action, the result would not have happened.
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Old 11-08-2015, 21:24
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They didn't tell anybody what they had done, they were planning on leaving them in there with no food or water, and planned on staying out overnight and ignored their mobiles, so as much as they didn't do as much damage as Chrissie, they are not completely innocent!
Not liking Eric and Rodney at all, but wasn't the fair going to be opened that afternoon, therefore Val and Diane would have been discovered?
Or maybe my logic circuits are working too hard.
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Old 11-08-2015, 21:30
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Not liking Eric and Rodney at all, but wasn't the fair going to be opened that afternoon, therefore Val and Diane would have been discovered?
Or maybe my logic circuits are working too hard.
I don't see how it could be opened if they had the keys. It was just a bizarre storyline to be honest.
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Old 11-08-2015, 21:34
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Eric got a call from David when he was in the Malt, he dismissed it saying Val must be the one actually phoning. That's really struck me as odd - if she was locked in the maze how could she ring from David's phone, so potentially there is an excuse he can make where he thought someone was going to open up in time for Val and Diane to go to the wedding. Yet again, he had the key.

(Sorry, VM 123, just seen your comment about the key)
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Old 11-08-2015, 21:38
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I don't see how it could be opened if they had the keys. It was just a bizarre storyline to be honest.
I suppose I thought the fair owner had keys, or they had been returned to him before the blokes went off boozing.
It isn't even bizarre, just flimsy
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Old 11-08-2015, 21:48
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I suppose I thought the fair owner had keys, or they had been returned to him before the blokes went off boozing.
It isn't even bizarre, just flimsy
Yeah that's what I expected at first, until there seemed to be no fair workers around. A number of people also commented on the maze not being open yet. Someone must have opened other rides though so wouldn't they think anything about not having the keys to the maze.
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