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Panasonic DMR-ES10. My thoughts.
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heckbulb
15-06-2005
Originally Posted by jackthom:
“If the digibox is a Freeview box it could be that it's line 23 WSS that's actually working and the scart may still be dodgy but this is clutching at straws really. ”

Reasonable assumption. It is a freeview box. I don't really understand how line 23 works, but I didn't think it would be sent through the scart. Please correct me if I am wrong though.
jackthom
15-06-2005
Originally Posted by heckbulb:
“Reasonable assumption. It is a freeview box. I don't really understand how line 23 works, but I didn't think it would be sent through the scart. Please correct me if I am wrong though.”

If there is a line 23 WSS from the Freeview box it will almost certainly be present on the scart composite video. ( not at all sure whether it will also be on the RGB signal but this may be of no consequence)

I'm far from being an expert but would suggest that you completely eliminate any simple-to-fix problem (by substituting scart leads ) before returning the Panny DVDR.
heckbulb
15-06-2005
Thanks for your suggestions. I might try removing pin 8 on the scart lead (probably not my expensive ones) to see if the digibox will still switch. if so I guess it must be using the line 23 method. I think its pin 8 anyway.
heckbulb
15-06-2005
Originally Posted by heckbulb:
“Thanks for your suggestions. I might try removing pin 8 on the scart lead (probably not my expensive ones) to see if the digibox will still switch. if so I guess it must be using the line 23 method. I think its pin 8 anyway.”

Ok, I took out pin 8 and pluged my digibox back into the telly and there was no widesceen switching.

Therefore there is nothing wrong with my scart leads, TV or Panny settings. So its a faulty ES10.
jackthom
16-06-2005
Originally Posted by heckbulb:
“Ok, I took out pin 8 and pluged my digibox back into the telly and there was no widesceen switching.

Therefore there is nothing wrong with my scart leads, TV or Panny settings. So its a faulty ES10.”

Sorry to hear that. Hope you get a replacement soon.
Graham Russell
17-06-2005
Originally Posted by rickyg:
“I think this is because the DVD-R format only has an overall format flag and can't mark and hence switch the widescreen for individual titles on the disc, as is needed for set top box DVD recording.”


Not quite. You can have different formats for individual titles on a disc but not different formats within a single title (like you can with RAM)

Graham.


(Sorry, just noticed I've repeated myself from an earlier post!)
Last edited by Graham Russell : 17-06-2005 at 21:19
heckbulb
18-06-2005
Originally Posted by jackthom:
“Sorry to hear that. Hope you get a replacement soon. ”

Thanks. I have just bought a replacement from CURRYS. Ok, so it cost me more, but I figured that its a lot easier to go back if there are more problems.

Good news is my new one works perfectly

Ergo, my last two WERE faulty. What were the chances of getting two with the same fault from two diffent online suppliers

Third time lucky
rickyg
19-06-2005
Glad you got it sorted!

It goes to show that, though we're paying much less for these sort of toys, the build quality, even from reputable makers, ain't what it it used to be.

It might be worth writing to Panasonic, who knows they might come forth with a goodwill gesture, for:
The trouble you've had, letting them know of the issue and for staying loyal to their product.

I'm still happy with mine, the only real annoyance being the widescreen flagging (thanks to Graham for correcting me re Disc vs Title format flagging). You wouldn't have thought it was a big deal to have added a menu option to change the flag for title or disc.
Londy
02-11-2005
Originally Posted by womblebt:
“I`ve had my ES10 now for a week, I bought it to archive off my Sky+ box. I must say that I am very pleased, recorded a whole load of my sons "rubbish"!!! and even at 8 hours on the disk the quality is at least as good as vhs and upto 4 hours per disk seems very close to the original Sky image.
All for £174 and multiregion too ”

I notice that you have succesfully used the DMR-ES10 to archive from your Sky+ box. Are you able to archive all material, I am finding that some channels and some recorded material are "prohibited". Do you have a solution to this?
showpink
07-11-2005
I am interested in the ES10 DVD recorder, and wanted to also use it to loop through signal from a PVR, RGB into AV2 then out to TV through component output. If I also use an S-video input to AV3 (I think it is) for archive recordings, can I record an AV3 signal to DVD whilst at the same time also viewing another loop through picture on component output? Or is it a case of if you are recording something, then that is all you can watch?

Thanks for advice.
rickyg
09-11-2005
Originally Posted by showpink:
“...... is it a case of if you are recording something, then that is all you can watch?”

I'm afraid it is. S-video on front panel is AV3 and there's also a rear S-video AV4 input.
There is an RGB - RGB loop through (on standby) AV2 to AV1. And you can of course do your AV2 RGB to component output when it is fully powered on, with AV2 selected.
Emrys Davies
10-11-2005
I intend to buy a HD Ready TV and, depending on the result of some research, I will probably buy the Panny DMRES10.

I was told that because the DVD is not HDMI it would not be a suitable purchase. Any observations would be appreciated.
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