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Did Amber request him? I know she was surprised when she got him
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No a lot of Derek partners went on record by saying that they requested him. It was him or they wouldn't sign on to do the show. All his celebrities except his first one, Joanne and Bindi. ... Mark and Val had a lot of request from their previous partners as well.
It depends on how much clout you have on the show as a pro and how bad tptb want certain celebrities; because they have certainly made exceptions for these 3 pros in particular; especially derek. Celebrities REQUEST pros ( but tptb cave in IF it's these 3) on Dwts ; especially derek. Like I said, in 20 seasons he has done Most of them requested him . Now if it was Artem, Tony, keo.... .....the show would have the last word. It depends on the pro.
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I would've thought it would have to be someone pretty terrible to make him do that as it would surely be career suicide in terms of DWTS (as Henry seems to have found out). Its not like he's got that many other irons in the fire like Maks/Val/Derek. He must've known when he joined DWTS that he would likely be a 'second tier' pro behind the established dancers, especially as he was a swap for Tristan who always got 'duffers', so I don't get why he would suddenly get angry about it
It seems more likely that, as Fridgesoup said, he had to be bumped so Val/Tony could have his partner, but it still seems odd that they haven't given him a spot in the troupe at least. All very strange.I just can't wrap my mind around them bumping Artem for 40-something year old Louis just because Paula asked for him. It may be the case but I can't make myself believe it. They could have shown her a picture of Artem's abs and surely convinced her!
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Nancy Grace said she requested Maks but she didn't get him. So I know they can and do make requests - I just don't believe that's what's going on in the Artem situation. (now that I re-read I see you agree - the show has the last word - at least with Artem, Tony, Keo and/or not-so-big celebrities.) I don't think Paula would be a biggie but what do I know? Maybe her racist scandal makes her a must-have celeb
![]() ![]() . I don't think leaving him out was due to his injury on the summer tour because it seemed like he was doing fine. Judging by his timeline, I think that he expected to be a pro this season but I'm sure that something happened at the very last min on the producers part. This just reminds me of the Sharna situation from a few seasons ago, smh. Thankfully for her, she had a lot of support from dwts fans, they made a lot of noise, were so outraged on her behalf that tptb made her a pro at the very last min after leaving her out with no clear explanations. Artem just doesn't have that impact yet. And the most vocal Dwts fans who usually campaign for stuff like that don't like him anyways .They kind of warmed up to him since last season with Patty but not enough to care about whether dwts drop him or not |
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They've been advertizing Artem as a pro - he was in a rehearsal video ABC showed - they put him and Peta on their main poster (although they've used a poster with Tristan and Kym when neither of them was on the show.)
Anyway, all signs from ABC were that they were having Artem on the show (and not Louis.) That's why the row excuse makes the most sense to me. But of course I don't 'know' that he did that - but if he did, I don't blame him! (said by a very-long-suffering Tristan fan - and Dmitry/Alec before him - DWTS treats pros who aren't golden-boys very very very badly) |
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Unless you're Derek, Val and to a certain extent Mark. ...yeah. ...all I know is that Artem was supposed to be a pro this season; judging by what I've seen and what some of you guys said. Leaving him out was most likely a last min decision. From who ? I don't know.
This extreme favoritism for certain pros and treatment of others as second fiddle is such a turn off as a long time fan ![]() .Thank goodness Strictly isn't like this. |
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Nancy Grace said she requested Maks but she didn't get him. So I know they can and do make requests - I just don't believe that's what's going on in the Artem situation. (now that I re-read I see you agree - the show has the last word - at least with Artem, Tony, Keo and/or not-so-big celebrities.) I don't think Paula would be a biggie but what do I know? Maybe her racist scandal makes her a must-have celeb
![]() The problem this season is they announced 9 pros on GMA before guaranteeing some of the celebs and one of the pros was Artem who has now disappeared from the lineup. |
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Unless you're Derek, Val and to a certain extent Mark. ...yeah. ...all I know is that Artem was supposed to be a pro this season; judging by what I've seen and what some of you guys said. Leaving him out was most likely a last min decision. From who ? I don't know.
This extreme favoritism for certain pros and treatment of others as second fiddle is such a turn off as a long time fan ![]() .Thank goodness Strictly isn't like this. |
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Totally agree and this is what annoys me about DWTS
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Artem posted on Instagram that due to last minute changes he will no longer be competing with a celeb but he will still be dancing in the ballroom
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Artem posted on Instagram that due to last minute changes he will no longer be competing with a celeb but he will still be dancing in the ballroom
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I think they swapped out after a female celebrity dropped out last minute...and Alek Skarlatos came in with Lindsay, see Tom saying 'I heard about this last-minute celebrity just last night...'. I would say Artem had a seventh female celebrity, but it got cut last minute.
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I guess so
![]() And it sounds like Artem is still in their stable, so to speak. But I wonder why Artem is saying he'll be dancing with the pros instead of saying he's in the troupe, which still exists? I'm still suspicious about the whole thing. When the main nine pros were named, the ones left off were Tony, Keo and Emma. The insider said later that it was between Emma and Lindsay as to who'd get that last slot (well, they both did because of Peta's injury.) But how come Artem couldn't have got either Keo's or Tony's celeb and one of them could have sat out, since they weren't in the "main nine" anyway and hadn't been promoted as much? But I'll never find out - so I guess I'll just accept that there was a 7th female for Artem but she didn't sign - or they had the idea of hiring the French terrorist hero guy and went for it (dropping the 7th female idea altogether and being unwilling to have 14 couples - though that would have been easy enough with double eliminations imo) |
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I hear through the grapevine there was definitely meant to be a seventh female celebrity paired with Artem, but she dropped, so Alek came into the fold, and Anna and Lindsay did some swapsies. Haha, probably Sharon-bleedin Osbourne who let them down last minute!
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Does anybody know who the troupe is? I assume Sasha, Artem, Alan, Jenna and one more girl? (to make 9 male pros and 9 female pros) But who's the girl? They fired Brittany but maybe they'll bring her back
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Does anybody know who the troupe is? I assume Sasha, Artem, Alan, Jenna and one more girl? (to make 9 male pros and 9 female pros) But who's the girl? They fired Brittany but maybe they'll bring her back
![]() Don't think it was Sharon as she would have asked for Louis too |
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But who's the second girl in the troupe?
Paired up: 7 female pros, 6 male pros Troupe: 1 female pro, 3 male pros |
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But who's the second girl in the troupe?
Paired up: 7 female pros, 6 male pros Troupe: 1 female pro, 3 male pros |
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Hayley who replaced Brittany even though she is a contemporary dancer
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I hear through the grapevine there was definitely meant to be a seventh female celebrity paired with Artem, but she dropped, so Alek came into the fold, and Anna and Lindsay did some swapsies. Haha, probably Sharon-bleedin Osbourne who let them down last minute!
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I think Val was supposed to partner actress Shay Mitchell but she appears to have ditched them at the very last minute.
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Why are Val fans so obsessed with him getting Shay
. Doing the show would be a step down from her; she doesn't need it. She's doing very well career wise and has an upcoming movie with Jennifer Aniston. ..why would she be doing dwts ![]() I think that it's because Val went on record by saying that she would be his ideal partner. ...lol but that doesn't mean that she will do the show. I don't even think that she really was in consideration of doing it this season. |
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Why are Val fans so obsessed with him getting Shay
. Doing the show would be a step down from her; she doesn't need it. She's doing very well career wise and has an upcoming movie with Jennifer Aniston. ..why would she be doing dwts ![]() I think that it's because Val went on record by saying that she would be his ideal partner. ...lol but that doesn't mean that she will do the show. I don't even think that she really was in consideration of doing it this season.
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Lol at you thinking I'm a Val fan
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Here's the story why Artem was cut last minute -
Val's original partner was Jodie Sweetin and Artem's partner was Tamar Braxton. After Jodie backed out last minute TPTB paired Val with Artem's partner Tamar. Val position on DWTS >>>>>>> Artem. So they need to keep Val on the show anyhow they can, thus they decided to cut Artem this season. They couldn't even pair Paula with Artem, as she specially requested for Louis. |
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It seems more likely that, as Fridgesoup said, he had to be bumped so Val/Tony could have his partner, but it still seems odd that they haven't given him a spot in the troupe at least. All very strange.
and surely convinced her!
