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the whose Had "dance training " Experience thread
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treetree
12-08-2015
Well as the celebs are being revealed it always comes out that certain celebs have had dance lessons/training been to stage school - been in music video's etc and are "Ringers"

lets see how many will have had

so far cant see that Jeremy Vine or Ainsley Harriot have dont know about the Girl from eastenders yet
hippychickxxx
12-08-2015
Originally Posted by treetree:
“Well as the celebs are being revealed it always comes out that certain celebs have had dance lessons/training been to stage school - been in music video's etc and are "Ringers"

lets see how many will have had

so far cant see that Jeremy Vine or Ainsley Harriot have dont know about the Girl from eastenders yet”

BIB someone on another thread said that she went to sylvia young, so chances are that she has had some dance training - that said, it doesn't mean that she can actually dance
curvybabes
12-08-2015
Kellie did go to Sylvie Young, she has took part in the Eastenders special for Children In Need, she was Sandy from Grease. to me yes she has had some basic training when younger but hasn't really done anything more than that.
BuddyBontheNet
13-08-2015
Jeremy must have had training to do his stints on CIN.
Sallyforth
13-08-2015
Best to get this out of the way before we start the series eh

GMF did performing arts at Bury College. It depends which course she did and when as to whether there was any dance content. The current courses are here

http://www.burycollege.ac.uk/cms/cou...1&page=courses
aggs
13-08-2015
Originally Posted by Sallyforth:
“Best to get this out of the way before we start the series eh

GMF did performing arts at Bury College. It depends which course she did and when as to whether there was any dance content. The current courses are here

http://www.burycollege.ac.uk/cms/cou...1&page=courses”

She admitted in her reveal interview that she has had dance training, but that it was more along the lines of hip hop/contemporary (I think) than with a partner or Latin/ballroom.
Sallyforth
13-08-2015
Originally Posted by aggs:
“She admitted in her reveal interview that she has had dance training, but that it was more along the lines of hip hop/contemporary (I think) than with a partner or Latin/ballroom.”

Might've been this course then. I'm guessing she didn't major in dance as it were, and this course covers acting and all sorts of other performing arts stuff.

http://www.burycollege.ac.uk/courses...9_14853336.pdf

I don't suppose it'll stop folk stringing her up for it if she turns out to be good.
SeasideLady
13-08-2015
I'm not bothered in the slightest if they've had any - it usually means that they have some co-ordination and balance, which makes for more watchable performances. As long as they haven't had any serious ballroom and latin training in the past, ( ballet being a different discipline ) that seems to be all that's required by the BBC as far as I know -
dancing.queen
13-08-2015
After DVO, Natalie Gumede and Pixie Lott (and even Jason Donovan to an extent) on in consecutive years, I don't really mind who has dance experience. I'm unlikely to actively support the 'ringer' as I like watching people learn, but they can also provide good and exciting dances so I don't mind having them on.
aggs
13-08-2015
I think they're always going to cast people with slightly more experience - it gives the early weeks a chance of some dances that aren't people rigid with fear. Two hours of people plodding round waiting for their mojo to kick in would not good TV make.

At some point the less experienced catch up - and as we know full well by now, when it gets to the pointy end it takes more than simply good dancing to actually win.
Sallyforth
14-08-2015
I don't mind either. In DWTS I think they have a contemporary week now?

Which I guess is where you would have a bit of an advantage if you'd done that before.
memmh
14-08-2015
Originally Posted by SeasideLady:
“I'm not bothered in the slightest if they've had any - it usually means that they have some co-ordination and balance, which makes for more watchable performances. As long as they haven't had any serious ballroom and latin training in the past, ( ballet being a different discipline ) that seems to be all that's required by the BBC as far as I know -”

I completely agree with every word you said there. I was about to say the exact same thing but you beat me to it
katt
14-08-2015
I dont mind if they have or havent had any dance training

just dont lie about if it you have! (DVO)
BuddyBontheNet
14-08-2015
I'm long past the stage of caring about past dancing experience.

In the beginning it was less common, performing in general too. Now more celebs than not have some relevant experience. If I wanted to carry on enjoying the show, I needed to get over this. It took a while, but I'm there now. It's still up to me who I vote for (if I vote at all) and that's the way I handle past experience now. This way I can enjoy the dancing a heck of a lot more.
edy10
15-08-2015
Hahaha starting early I see
sofakat
16-08-2015
Originally Posted by aggs:
“I think they're always going to cast people with slightly more experience - it gives the early weeks a chance of some dances that aren't people rigid with fear. Two hours of people plodding round waiting for their mojo to kick in would not good TV make.

At some point the less experienced catch up - and as we know full well by now, when it gets to the pointy end it takes more than simply good dancing to actually win.”

All this discussion about stage schools is a bit pointless. Anyone who goes to one of those places gets some 'training' in dance, but it doesn't mean they will be good.

You can teach someone to move better (body awareness) and show them several steps, but if the innate ability isn't there there is only so far you can go. Some will never get it (Judy Murray).

Streetdance teaches you sod all about dancing but a lot about balance and beat. It's not that useful for ballroom.

I've taught people to dance well enough to get through their wedding, but without the raw material even the best teacher in the world can't turn them into 'dancers'.

People like Natalie Gumede had real talent. That makes the difference. And, as you say aggs, some vote for entirely different reasons on SCD and their choice has sod all to do with the best dancer. The GBP are fickle.
treetree
18-08-2015
carol kirkwood revealed today - some how and i maybe wrong but Fiona Philips comes to mind - cant see shes had any training as a youngster "Yet"
Phoebica
18-08-2015
To be honest, if you've had dance experience then you're more likely to want to go on this show. If I was awful at dancing I wouldn't even consider signing up.

It doesn't bother me if someone has had lessons or whatnot. I don't class it as cheating, it just happens to be something they've done in their life. Just like someone who has spent a lot of time camping may be better in I'm A Celeb... kinda, lol.
bornfree
18-08-2015
Dance training or not dance training, I am looking forward to seeing Georgia May Foote on SCD.
edy10
18-08-2015
Being a former trained dancer or having a lot of dancing experience, doesn't necessarily equate to doing extremely well on strictly imo. In fact, recently it has been some sort of " disadvantage " on these contestants, because of " public backlash ".

I didn't like DVO, Natalie, dances for the MOST part in their seasons. However , I liked Jason, Pixie and Alesha. ......
sofakat
18-08-2015
Originally Posted by bornfree:
“Dance training or not dance training, I am looking forward to seeing Georgia May Foote on SCD.”

She's a beautiful girl so she should have a strong male following. It would be good if she had some ability and talent. I'd put her with Aljaz. They'd look amazing together.
sofakat
18-08-2015
Originally Posted by Phoebica:
“To be honest, if you've had dance experience then you're more likely to want to go on this show. If I was awful at dancing I wouldn't even consider signing up.

It doesn't bother me if someone has had lessons or whatnot. I don't class it as cheating, it just happens to be something they've done in their life. Just like someone who has spent a lot of time camping may be better in I'm A Celeb... kinda, lol.”

Makes you wonder why Judy Murray even bothered!

I think most do it for the money, many for increased visibility and to prop up their career if it's, a) not going anywhere, or b) has faded completely.

The people who push it are the publicists and managers, who very often choose what their 'stars' do and then cajole them into agreeing. SCD prods will go to them and ask, 'who have you got' and then the haggling starts.
viva.espana
18-08-2015
Originally Posted by SeasideLady:
“I'm not bothered in the slightest if they've had any - it usually means that they have some co-ordination and balance, which makes for more watchable performances. As long as they haven't had any serious ballroom and latin training in the past, ( ballet being a different discipline ) that seems to be all that's required by the BBC as far as I know -”

I am so with you on that.

The novelty and entertainment value of those who really have two left feet wears thin so quickly. I want to see improvement and joy on the dancefloor and there's nothing more frustrating that someone being kept on that show for 'aw, at least they're amusing' reasons at the expense of people who are actually really improving but getting sidelined and ignored.
primer
18-08-2015
there had better be a few with dance experience /aptitude. i don't really watch for the duffers. they have to be stand out personalities and so few are.
sofakat
19-08-2015
Originally Posted by viva.espana:
“I am so with you on that.

The novelty and entertainment value of those who really have two left feet wears thin so quickly. I want to see improvement and joy on the dancefloor and there's nothing more frustrating that someone being kept on that show for 'aw, at least they're amusing' reasons at the expense of people who are actually really improving but getting sidelined and ignored.”

Totally agree! People are already claiming on another thread that they will vote for their 'favourite' regardless. I find that utterly pointless. It drags the show down.
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