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Old 15-08-2015, 10:18
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Plus any Aaron/Andy stuff could lead to more Aaron stuff generally as that will bring his guilt and stuff back up to the surface and struggling with lying to Andy. Though not sure where they would go with that other than the s/h and whether they would touch that for a 3rd time i don't know and doubt. Though one thing it might lead to as well is Aaron/Robert interaction if Andy is asking questions. Unless it makes Aaron even more determined to ignore him. I don't know if Robert will be too distracted with other things such as The Whites (as ever) to get into it anyway.

I really feel we are on the cusp of some stuff starting again soon and the Aaron (and now Robert) drought will come to an end once this month is through. Then probably start another drought again not long after

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Old 15-08-2015, 11:31
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These teasers are from the

What's Next section in the Metro: doubt they're relevant but here they are....

1. A nice but ultimately insensitive gesture in a budding romance could ruin everything…

2. One soap local is left seething when a secret from his past reaches his shocked son…

3.
Two lovers receive some of the worst news a couple can ever get…
I'm gonna guess number one is Bernice and Lawrence.
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Old 15-08-2015, 11:54
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I'm gonna guess number one is Bernice and Lawrence.
I think I read something about Bernice wanting to find out whether Lawrence is gay. I suspect someone says something to her. With Robert and Chrissie gone I wonder who else knows. Is Lachlan still around? Perhaps he doesn't like her as a potential step gran. Sounds like something he would do.
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Old 15-08-2015, 13:00
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I'm looking forward to (hopefully) Aaron and Andy stuff too as it was definately missing.I would expect they would be very good scenes
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Old 15-08-2015, 13:36
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To all of sudden come back to Andy hating Aaron would be werid since they were fine at the wedding unless something else happens or Andy finds out something to doubt whether Aaron is telling him the truth. If he was angry with Aaron about the affair and letting everyone believe Katie was crazy he'd have spoke about it by now. It must be Katie's death. I don't know what he could find out to make him suspicious? I am guessing he might start asking Aaron questions instead of Robert because he is more likely to tell him.
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Old 15-08-2015, 13:40
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It would be odd as they've been seen on good terms it would seem a bit why only now have issues? unless something else is revealed to trigger tension or something.
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Old 15-08-2015, 14:19
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I can see why Andy is much more angry at Robert and no so much so at Aaron. Robert is the one who was constantly making Katie out to be a liar and goading her. Aaron didn't as far as I can remember except he backed Robert up a few times to cover the lies.
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Old 15-08-2015, 14:57
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I can see why Andy is much more angry at Robert and no so much so at Aaron. Robert is the one who was constantly making Katie out to be a liar and goading her. Aaron didn't as far as I can remember except he backed Robert up a few times to cover the lies.
This is true, I don't think Aaron was even aware of how far Robert went with her with his threats etc until after Katie died.
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Old 15-08-2015, 15:31
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I can see why Andy is much more angry at Robert and no so much so at Aaron. Robert is the one who was constantly making Katie out to be a liar and goading her. Aaron didn't as far as I can remember except he backed Robert up a few times to cover the lies.
I can understand why Andy is more angry with Robert. I just would of thought we'd see a conversation about it with Aaron & Andy or failing that someone to talking to Aaron from his POV. But that is clearly too much to ask!
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Old 15-08-2015, 19:23
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I think the main reason why Andy isn't mad at Aaron is because it's not the affair itself he is bothered about.

It's Robert's betrayal, just when Andy started to let him back into his life. He thought he had changed, that he cared, but really he just felt guilty.
Strictly speaking this has very little to do with Aaron.

It would be nice to see Andy and Aaron talk about Katie and Robert, but then again I feel like I've seen enough of guilty, self loathing Aaron to last a lifetime. And Andy asking questions will inevitably lead to that
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Old 15-08-2015, 20:48
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I think the main reason why Andy isn't mad at Aaron is because it's not the affair itself he is bothered about.

It's Robert's betrayal, just when Andy started to let him back into his life. He thought he had changed, that he cared, but really he just felt guilty.
Strictly speaking this has very little to do with Aaron.

It would be nice to see Andy and Aaron talk about Katie and Robert, but then again I feel like I've seen enough of guilty, self loathing Aaron to last a lifetime. And Andy asking questions will inevitably lead to that
C'mon, there's nothing Danny does better than guilty, self loathing Aaron :P

Though we'll probably won't see any more reactions to the affair for now, unless they start openly dating around the village, which would be brilliant, and is what I'm hoping the next few weeks will bring us: Robert and Aaron defiantly together in front of everyone else in the village.
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Old 15-08-2015, 21:17
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I am wondering if Aaron Will defend Robert when Andy Will know about Katie.

I hope so it was totally an accident.
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Old 16-08-2015, 00:06
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I am wondering if Aaron Will defend Robert when Andy Will know about Katie.

I hope so it was totally an accident.
The Katie incident was definitely an accident. Wileys* was In the middle of being repaired. When Robert pushed Katie he didn't know the floor would cave in.

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Old 16-08-2015, 00:12
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Just saw the pics of how the JP/Lockie affair is revealed in Hollyoaks. JP is hiding in just his boxers in the wardrobe when Lockie's wife catches him. I kinda wish Robron was revealed like this. The scene we got for the reveal was great but I would have loved to see Chrissie catch them in the act. Even if we got a narrow escape scene like this it would have been brilliant.
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Old 16-08-2015, 00:37
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The Katie incident was definitely an accident. Wileys* was In the middle of being repaired. When Robert pushed Katie he didn't know the floor would cave in.

Well it had been surveyed and seemingly the rotting floor wasn't picked up on as I can't imagine any of them would've just been walking around there with no concern.

Just saw the pics of how the JP/Lockie affair is revealed in Hollyoaks. JP is hiding in just his boxers in the wardrobe when Lockie's wife catches him. I kinda wish Robron was revealed like this. The scene we got for the reveal was great but I would have loved to see Chrissie catch them in the act. Even if we got a narrow escape scene like this it would have been brilliant.
I think what we got was better tbh. We got a more original reveal. While it might have been nice seeing Ryan or Danny in boxers, that type of reveal has been done to death.
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Old 16-08-2015, 07:26
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I loved our reveal, I think a close call of them nearly being caught would have been good - not necessarily even with Chrissie, Adam, Diane or ross would have worked well
IMO. But I think our reveal was much better.
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Old 16-08-2015, 08:10
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Our reveal was much better. It needed to happen - Aaron needed to be the one to hurt Robert and took everything away from him after everything Robert did to him and Paddy.
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Old 16-08-2015, 08:18
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I'm having a memory block and the story suddenly not making sense, can anyone help me?

When Katie died and Aaron got there, what did Robert say happened? Simply that she fell and that he wasn't even looking/around?

Cus then we had the big roadside 'confession' didn't we? But what dis he confess to actually? Robert didn't say that he had touched her or actually physically caused her to fall did he as that is what Aaron found out at the lodge.
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Old 16-08-2015, 08:40
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I'm having a memory block and the story suddenly not making sense, can anyone help me?

When Katie died and Aaron got there, what did Robert say happened? Simply that she fell and that he wasn't even looking/around?

Cus then we had the big roadside 'confession' didn't we? But what dis he confess to actually? Robert didn't say that he had touched her or actually physically caused her to fall did he as that is what Aaron found out at the lodge.
He initially told Aaron that they talked and made up, and that Katie deleted the photo herself. I think he said they were standing next to each other when the floor just suddenly gave way.

Then, at the roadside he admitted that they never made up, that Katie wasn't the one who deleted the photo.
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Old 16-08-2015, 08:52
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He admitted everything at the roadside apart from the fact he pushed her. Which is why at the time most of us thought that was the end of it, that Aaron knew everything and that it was implied he was admitting he caused her to fall through the floor. Obviously not. But Aaron's anger at the lodge was mostly about Paddy and Rhona/Leo, I think if Aaron had only found out that Robert pushed her, he wouldn't of reacted the way he did.

Speaking of the Rhona/Leo threat, I'm kind of disappointed they never had Aaron visit Leo after that. Or Rhona. I really do wish they'd get him more involved with them again. I think we've had one scene with Aaron/Rhona since he came back, have we even had that with Leo? For christ sake we've had Robert with Leo more than we've had Aaron
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Old 16-08-2015, 09:09
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He admitted everything at the roadside apart from the fact he pushed her. Which is why at the time most of us thought that was the end of it, that Aaron knew everything and that it was implied he was admitting he caused her to fall through the floor. Obviously not. But Aaron's anger at the lodge was mostly about Paddy and Rhona/Leo, I think if Aaron had only found out that Robert pushed her, he wouldn't of reacted the way he did.

Speaking of the Rhona/Leo threat, I'm kind of disappointed they never had Aaron visit Leo after that. Or Rhona. I really do wish they'd get him more involved with them again. I think we've had one scene with Aaron/Rhona since he came back, have we even had that with Leo? For christ sake we've had Robert with Leo more than we've had Aaron
I dunno, maybe if it was on it's own he might not have bothered him so much, so maybe it was the piling effect but from what i can remember he got a lot more angrier after that confession and starting saying he was a murderer, that Robert nearly ruined his life by not admitting the truth, and also, and that's when he launched at him and tried to beat him up. So it did seem to shock him a lot and that is what confused me when i started thinking about it as i couldn't work out what Robert admitted at the roadside then. I thought he admitted they were arguing and that he was responsible for the accident, left out that he pushed her but i would have thought Aaron would know that something like that happened if Robert was admitting to be responsible.
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Old 16-08-2015, 09:11
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I dunno, maybe if it was on it's own he might not have bothered him so much, so maybe it was the piling effect but from what i can remember he got a lot more angrier after that confession and starting saying he was a murderer, that Robert nearly ruined his life by not admitting the truth, and also, and that's when he launched at him and tried to beat him up. So it did seem to shock him a lot and that is what confused me when i started thinking about it as i couldn't work out what Robert admitted at the roadside then. I thought he admitted they were arguing and that he was responsible for the accident
Oh I definitely expect he would of still reacted angrily, but his attitude to it was like you said, a pile on effect. He'd found out Robert had been lying and hurting people he cared about behind his back again and finding out about Katie in that moment too was the straw that broke the camels back, it just proved he'd been lying to him for even longer than he thought.
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Old 16-08-2015, 09:12
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The Robron reveal was good enough but nothing special (though the actors' performances were flawless).

The reveal, having taken place, was ruined by the lack of reaction in the village. Very lazy storylines that betrayed the fact that the reveal had little to do with the Robron story and far more to do with the timing of the summer disaster (Chrissie setting light to Robert's car on the wedding day).

There is no point in having these major dramatic incidents if there is little or no follow up. A complete joke.

I'm no longer a fan of Eastenders or Hollyoaks but Kate Oates could do with watching how they do their big storyline reveals and the repercussions and consequences that follow.
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Old 16-08-2015, 09:19
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I thought the reveal was excellent. It was a very good scene in my opinion. It would have been far soapier to have them be caught in the act but i liked that it was different and a bit more understated. It was still a shock, nonody knew how it was going to happen, and then when Aaron appeared in the kitchen i did think it was a really good OMG moment and the scene itself was really satisfying. I do think after everything that happened it was fitting that Aaron revealed it and it was Chrissie being told the shocking details with Robert watching on helpless. I thought it was really clever to have Aaron mention all the times they were together and have Chrissie slowly realise that way. Plus i thought Danny was amazing in that scene in particular, even after all the emotional performances from the rest of the week i thought that was a highlight.
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Old 16-08-2015, 10:40
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I think the reveal was so well done Danny's performance was sublime. It was great suspense not knowing how it would come out only that it would. How Aaron had to be so brutal with examples and I liked Robert being brought to justice a bit after what had gone on before. It's the lack of aftermath that was a total anti climax that followed that let everything down. I wish they had't used this to be a catalyst for the disaster it's made the whole storyline suffer and taken away what it could of been.
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