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What, then, is the difference between apple pie and apple tart?
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For me, a pie is something savoury or sweet fully enclosed in non puff pastry.
A dish being cooked and eaten from an individually served bowl or a large one which is served as potions with just a pastry lid I don't think of as a proper pie, that's just an upside down tart/flan. Cornish pasties, made with puff pastry; I consider savoury pastries. IIRC Cornish pasties were originally made with harder pastry, like pies. Legend/Myth (maybe true) was that the pastry joint was held in miners hands, which were dirty and discarded. |
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I hate food pretending to be a pie by dumping the pastry just on top.
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I hate food pretending to be a pie by dumping the pastry just on top.
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I'm not sure I quite understand that, could you give us an example?
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To be a proper pie the pastry on top has to be cooked in situ not cooked separately and plonked on top just before serving.
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Puff Pastry 'pies' that are just stewed meat with a lid on come to mind.
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If the words 'bentos' or 'fray' are at all involved - it most certainly is not a pie. It's just a weirdly shaped tin of vile gravy which has developed a thick rubbery skin on top.
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If the words 'bentos' or 'fray' are at all involved - it most certainly is not a pie. It's just a weirdly shaped tin of vile gravy which has developed a thick rubbery skin on top.
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If the words 'bentos' or 'fray' are at all involved - it most certainly is not a pie. It's just a weirdly shaped tin of vile gravy which has developed a thick rubbery skin on top.
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I used to love Fray Bentos pies when I was a kid so got one a few years back and couldn't believe how disgusting they were.
Princes have more gravy than FB ,alsoPrinces have some Exotic flavours such as Chicken Balti I think Princes used to own Fray Bentos brand ? |
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My favourite pies are Pukka Pies. They get the pastry just right
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To be a proper pie the pastry on top has to be cooked in situ not cooked separately and plonked on top just before serving.
The lady called the waiter over and said "What is this please?". The waiter said "Steak and ale pie". The lady flicked the pastry lid off and said "It's not a pie, it's a bowl of stew with a lid on. Take it back. I'll order something else." And they obliged her.
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My favourite pies are Pukka Pies. They get the pastry just right
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I was in a Wetherspoons once and an elderly couple nearby had ordered pie and chips.
The lady called the waiter over and said "What is this please?". The waiter said "Steak and ale pie". The lady flicked the pastry lid off and said "It's not a pie, it's a bowl of stew with a lid on. Take it back. I'll order something else." And they obliged her. ![]()
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A steak pie doesn't need a side and Base. Just as long as the pastry was baked on the stew and not baked separately on a baking tray then it's acceptable. My mum used to make 'steak pie' this way ... no mother, that's stew and pastry.
Although shepherds/cottage pie? That's just mince n tatties! |
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