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Old 22-09-2015, 18:22
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Does anybody think that the picture quality of Talking Pictures on Freeview is much better than the Sky transmission?
On Astra it's averaging 1.3 Mb/s MPEG2!
On Freeview it's averaging 1.2Mb/s MPEG4

Source: en.digitalbitrate.com
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Old 22-09-2015, 18:24
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On Astra it's averaging 1.3 Mb/s MPEG2!
On Freeview it's averaging 1.2Mb/s MPEG4

Source: en.digitalbitrate.com
And that means ?
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Old 22-09-2015, 18:48
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In a nutshell it means the Freeview transmission is better as it's using MPEG4.
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Old 22-09-2015, 18:50
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Does anyone else have the same problem as me with scheduled recordings disappearing after a re-scan? I have a Humax T2000. The previous Humax 9300T kept the schedule after a re-scan.
The 2000T deletes the scheduled recordings when you re-scan. It has been suggested that this is necessary when channels are moved around, added and removed. It is probably lazy programming by Humax. As you say the 9300T (and hence the 9150T) kept the schedule - as much as possible - after a re-scan.
You can limit the damage by only rescanning the multiplex you know has changed by using a manual scan. Only programmes scheduled from that multiplex will be deleted.
As a precaution, always make a note of your schedule before rescanning. Note that no recorded programmes are deleted.
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Old 22-09-2015, 20:32
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Did a couple of rescans, but seems not to be on Sudbury
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Old 22-09-2015, 20:37
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In a nutshell it means the Freeview transmission is better as it's using MPEG4.
mpeg 2 has better a PQ according this link.


http://www.differencebetween.net/tec...eg2-and-mpeg4/
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Old 22-09-2015, 21:36
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Did a couple of rescans, but seems not to be on Sudbury
You need HD freeview.
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Old 22-09-2015, 21:43
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On Astra it's averaging 1.3 Mb/s MPEG2!
On Freeview it's averaging 1.2Mb/s MPEG4

Source: en.digitalbitrate.com
I wonder how much just over a Meg costs on Freeview com 7 ? Must be reasonable for them to do it.
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Old 22-09-2015, 22:04
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As you say the 9300T (and hence the 9150T) kept the schedule - as much as possible - after a re-scan. .
The later software versions for the 9150T, 9300T and the 9200T deleted all channels at the start of an auto-tune which knocked out all entries from the schedule. Some people use to use this to delete all channels (and not save any found) prior to a manual scan so that they could start with a clean slate.
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Old 23-09-2015, 00:12
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Does anybody think that the picture quality of Talking Pictures on Freeview is much better than the Sky transmission?
In a word, no.
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Old 23-09-2015, 05:19
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Compaing bit rates doesn't really mean much.

A broadcast going through lots of compression and conversion to get to a transmission of stream of say 2mb - can have a worse visual result than something going more or less to broadcast at 1.5mb.

Neither of which are really ideal - but the public want quantity and not quality.

The set-top-boxes on different platforms can produce different results too.

Here - the BT Youview box produces a clearer picture than the Sky box - for Talking Pictures.

And the smart tv tuned on manual satellite mode and freeview mode - also produces a clearer picture for Talking Pictures on Freeview.
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Old 23-09-2015, 05:49
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Had a brief look at a couple of yesterday's films, one in 4 x 3 and one in widescreen, and the picture quality looked perfectly acceptable to me. Wasn't too keen on either of the films, which is why I didn't stay, but it augurs well for when they broadcast something I do want to watch.
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Old 23-09-2015, 16:47
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Had a brief look at a couple of yesterday's films, one in 4 x 3 and one in widescreen, and the picture quality looked perfectly acceptable to me. Wasn't too keen on either of the films, which is why I didn't stay, but it augurs well for when they broadcast something I do want to watch.
Yes, picture is acceptable. The channel reminds me a bit of the original Bravo on Sky (before Sky bought it over) showing old films and series. I notice there are a few more recent (1970s/1980s/1990s!!) films dotted around the schedule. Dependent on your preferences there are several dud B movies in the line up to a mix of so/so to some good/very good films. On the whole I am delighted it has come onto Freeview.
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Old 24-09-2015, 14:28
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I'm less concerned with the picture quality, more concerned with the way this channel hacked to pieces a film I was going to watch. A film called the Clouded Yellow was shown yesterday. I'd seen this film before a few years ago on Channel 4. On Talking Pictures the first scene of the film - missing. Other scenes, missing. A total of 6 minutes cut. (Nothing that was inappropriate for the time of day). I can only think it was done for timing purposes (ie. more ads). If this is the way they treat films I wont be watching. What a disappointment this channel is.
Given that this channel keeps advertising its' film club where you can buy the film you've just watched - is this a shopping channel?
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Old 25-09-2015, 23:12
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Isn't this this a channel from the Electric Sofa people who were promising three channels with one showing 'The Bold and the Beautiful' like five years ago? It certainly feels like what they described as old movies and classic (obscure) TV shows
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Old 26-09-2015, 06:51
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No, it's unrelated to Electric Sofa.

Talking Pictures is owned by Renown Pictures (http://www.renownfilms.co.uk/) who own the rights to many classic British 'B' movies.
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Old 26-09-2015, 08:16
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You need HD freeview.
Sudbury like many of us in the south-east, does not carry COMS 7 and 8, so even if you have HD you won't get many of these new channels. Most people assume forget that some main transmitters and nearly all relays do not have these muxes.
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Old 26-09-2015, 09:39
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It seems there are two versions of the film with one running around 10 minutes less than the original. The shorter version seems to be the one made available on video/dvd.

So it is more likely they showed the version they have for purchase rather than making their own cuts.

A shopping channel would show you bits of the film - not show you the whole film.

I'm less concerned with the picture quality, more concerned with the way this channel hacked to pieces a film I was going to watch. A film called the Clouded Yellow was shown yesterday. I'd seen this film before a few years ago on Channel 4. On Talking Pictures the first scene of the film - missing. Other scenes, missing. A total of 6 minutes cut. (Nothing that was inappropriate for the time of day). I can only think it was done for timing purposes (ie. more ads). If this is the way they treat films I wont be watching. What a disappointment this channel is.
Given that this channel keeps advertising its' film club where you can buy the film you've just watched - is this a shopping channel?
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Old 26-09-2015, 10:03
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Sudbury like many of us in the south-east, does not carry COMS 7 and 8, so even if you have HD you won't get many of these new channels. Most people assume forget that some main transmitters and nearly all relays do not have these muxes.
I assumed it was something along those lines, as usual with this Country, we seem to do things half baked !
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Old 26-09-2015, 12:15
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I assumed it was something along those lines, as usual with this Country, we seem to do things half baked !
The problem is claimed to be a lack of channels available especially with the proximity of the continent. Com 7 and 8 transmitters use recycled units not used after DSO and probably have a limited life. All should change at DSO2 when more space is allocated to mobile companies, etc. and the whole Freeview landscape may have to change!
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Old 26-09-2015, 23:35
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No, it's unrelated to Electric Sofa.

Talking Pictures is owned by Renown Pictures (http://www.renownfilms.co.uk/) who own the rights to many classic British 'B' movies.
Oh, thank you

It is good to know that you can leave a Forum for months on end and then if you happen upon it again - the same people are still there holding forth!!

I don't have the faintest clue as to who you are - but you certainly know your stuff
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Old 27-09-2015, 09:44
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It seems there are two versions of the film with one running around 10 minutes less than the original. The shorter version seems to be the one made available on video/dvd.

So it is more likely they showed the version they have for purchase rather than making their own cuts.

A shopping channel would show you bits of the film - not show you the whole film.
Yes, I see someone has commented about this on Amazon. On Amazon there are two versions listed on DVD, an older version with the scenes missing and the more complete version. Pity TPTV didn't purchase the correct (and more recent) version.

The shopping channel comment was tongue-in-cheek!
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Old 29-09-2015, 11:20
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This channel gets a mention in the latest edition of Radio Times but no progarmme listing (unless I've missed them)!
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Old 29-09-2015, 12:56
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This channel gets a mention in the latest edition of Radio Times but no progarmme listing (unless I've missed them)!
No, you haven't.
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Old 16-10-2015, 07:12
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Programme listings now available on Digiguide.
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