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Old 24-08-2015, 20:14
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WTF. Phil knew for three years and even after Lucy dying with Ian at his lowest point he didn't tell him.
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Old 24-08-2015, 21:00
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Since when does Phil ever think of others'?
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Old 24-08-2015, 21:03
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Yet I'm sure he said he found out from someone in prison when he was banged up for cutting the brakes.
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Old 24-08-2015, 21:05
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Yet I'm sure he said he found out from someone in prison when he was banged up for cutting the brakes.
No Think the thing he heard in prison was just that Kathy was back in the UK
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Old 24-08-2015, 21:06
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I don't get that either, why over complicate the plot by making out his know for three years it just makes it look stupid that he would stay silent that long, him knowing since January would of been sufficient enough.
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Old 24-08-2015, 21:12
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WTF. Phil knew for three years and even after Lucy dying with Ian at his lowest point he didn't tell him.
Sounds like they're just writing this off the top of their heads.
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Old 24-08-2015, 21:32
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So Phil knew for three years and there was never any hint of it? Not buying it. The story just doesn't add up so far. If Phil knew for so long, why did he suddenly become concerned about it in February? And why did he rope Peggy and Billy into it?

Why did Phil tell Ian he had "met someone" if he hadn't actually met Kathy in the flesh until later that night? Had he seen her before in those three years? From the way he reacted in the live ep, we were led to believe this was the first time he'd seen her in years.

Also, Peggy did not "hate" Kathy. So that's more retconning. Feels like they're making this up as they go, to be honest.
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Old 24-08-2015, 21:40
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If Phil knew for so long, why did he suddenly become concerned about it in February? And why did he rope Peggy and Billy into it?
Kathy was threatening to contact Ian and Ben and he wanted to get his side of the story in first? They do need to explain this.

Also, Peggy did not "hate" Kathy. So that's more retconning. Feels like they're making this up as they go, to be honest.
They did fall out after Kathy slept with Grant and Peggy can hold a grudge, just ask Sharon.
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Old 24-08-2015, 21:43
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So Phil knew for three years and there was never any hint of it? Not buying it. The story just doesn't add up so far. If Phil knew for so long, why did he suddenly become concerned about it in February? And why did he rope Peggy and Billy into it?

Why did Phil tell Ian he had "met someone" if he hadn't actually met Kathy in the flesh until later that night? Had he seen her before in those three years? From the way he reacted in the live ep, we were led to believe this was the first time he'd seen her in years.

Also, Peggy did not "hate" Kathy. So that's more retconning. Feels like they're making this up as they go, to be honest.
He met her at the live but got an email 3 years ago.
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Old 24-08-2015, 21:47
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Kathy was threatening to contact Ian and Ben and he wanted to get his side of the story in first? They do need to explain this.

They did fall out after Kathy slept with Grant and Peggy can hold a grudge, just ask Sharon.
Peggy's grudge against Sharon is silly, because they actually parted on good terms in 2006. Then after years of not seeing each other, Peggy suddenly hates Sharon again and refuses to attend Lexi's christening because of her. When Phil married Sharon, Peggy even made the bizarre claim that Sharon "sold the Vic from under her nose" - I have no idea what she was talking about there because Sharon actually sold the Vic back to Peggy in 2005. It was Phil who sold the Vic to Mick Carter in 2013; Sharon had nothing to do with it.

Peggy did call Kathy a 'slut' after she slept with Grant, but I don't think it's correct to say Peggy hated her. In fact, Peggy was always very fond of Kathy, and Tiffany for that matter; it was Sharon that she couldn't stand for many years. Ben even claimed that Kathy had 'always hated Sharon' last year - again, not true. Kathy avoided Sharon like the plague after the Sharongate reveal, but again I don't think it's fair to say she hated her.
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Old 24-08-2015, 21:48
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So Phil knew for three years and there was never any hint of it? Not buying it. The story just doesn't add up so far. If Phil knew for so long, why did he suddenly become concerned about it in February? And why did he rope Peggy and Billy into it?

Why did Phil tell Ian he had "met someone" if he hadn't actually met Kathy in the flesh until later that night? Had he seen her before in those three years? From the way he reacted in the live ep, we were led to believe this was the first time he'd seen her in years.

Also, Peggy did not "hate" Kathy. So that's more retconning. Feels like they're making this up as they go, to be honest.
It's Sharon that Peggy hates , it was Lou Beale that hated Kathy because of her precious son Pete , and what's all this got to with nosey Ronnie
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Old 24-08-2015, 21:49
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Well at least Phil knew 3 years before the scriptwriters eh?
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Old 24-08-2015, 21:52
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WTF. Phil knew for three years and even after Lucy dying with Ian at his lowest point he didn't tell him.
exactly.. none of it makes sense. if she knows ben went to prison she knows Lucy is dead what kind of mother is she leaving her child to grieve like that and not trying to contact him. if she really wanted to come back she would of been straight round Ians gaff as soon as she heard.

hate what they are doing to phil here cos he is going to be the hated one not kathy
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Old 24-08-2015, 21:56
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Sounds like they're just writing this off the top of their heads.
I swear these writer conferences and trips they have often are just an excuse for them to get high on all sorts of drugs and just make up the first thing that comes to mind
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Old 24-08-2015, 21:57
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Well at least Phil knew 3 years before the scriptwriters eh?
haha exactly.
thats the trouble with things like this. he really should of 'found out' in prison.
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Old 24-08-2015, 21:58
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Well at least Phil knew 3 years before the scriptwriters eh?
He told Kathy not to come back til Kirkwood and Newman had left.
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Old 24-08-2015, 22:01
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He told Kathy not to come back til Kirkwood and Newman had left.
Well, can't blame him for that
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Old 24-08-2015, 22:03
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Peggy absolutely adored Kathy throughout the 1990s all through Phil's alcoholism and mistreatment of Kathy Peggy continuously sided with Kathy and was always desperate for Phil to reconcile with her. When Kathy returned in 1999 after 18 months in South Africa Peggy was still desperate for Phil and Kathy to get back together. Peggy did admittedly turn against Kathy when she found out about her fling with Grant but that was very briefly before Kathy departed. For Ronnie to say that Peggy hated Kathy is ridiculous. Sharon was the daughter-in-law Peggy couldn't stand not Kathy.
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Old 24-08-2015, 22:05
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Well, can't blame him for that
And people say he hasn't got a heart!
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Old 24-08-2015, 22:11
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Love the Phil and Ronnie scenes tonight.
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Old 24-08-2015, 22:16
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How did he keep that a secret, for 3 years most of them can't even keep a secret for day!
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Old 24-08-2015, 22:49
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3 years? Maybe she read about Heather's murder and Ben's involvement .
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Old 24-08-2015, 22:53
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How did he keep that a secret, for 3 years most of them can't even keep a secret for day!
Well, Jane managed for 10 months
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Old 24-08-2015, 22:55
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He told Kathy not to come back til Kirkwood and Newman had left.
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Old 24-08-2015, 22:57
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Wasn't Phil a "crackhead" three years ago, or lying in a hospital bed after yet another shooting? The more I think about it the more I'm believe that Phil told Ronnie what she needed to hear. There is an awful lot more to this story than "an insurance scam".
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