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Isle Of Man - Roaming charges
I heard Isle of Man is classed as abroad.
To avoid roaming charges when I go there next week I should turn the "data roaming" off or on on my phone? |
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I heard Isle of Man is classed as abroad.
To avoid roaming charges when I go there next week I should turn the "data roaming" off or on on my phone? You can take a look at their pay as you go offering here: http://www.manxtelecom.com/mobile/tariffs/pay-as-you-go.aspx |
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Oh thanks for that.
I probably wont need data though, just texts probably. So if data roaming is off, I shouldn't get charged extra then? |
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I'm unsure about Android, but with iOS turning data roaming off will NOT stop charges in the Isle of Man. iOS considers it to be local but your provider considers it to be abroad. Turn data off entirely. I was caught out by this a couple of years back.
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Isle of Man is a separate country and it is outside of the EU so will have considerable roaming charges on calls, texts and data.
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I was in the Isle of Man last week. When I landed there my phone told me I was roaming. The IOM is not inside the EU, but I was still able to use the standard EU charges (which on Vodafone is £3 a day if I use any data/calls/texts).
It is a strange set up. I've always felt that the UK, IOM, Jersey and Guernsey should be treated as one area simply for convenience, same as the ROI. |
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Oh thanks for that.
I probably wont need data though, just texts probably. So if data roaming is off, I shouldn't get charged extra then? |
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I heard Isle of Man is classed as abroad.
To avoid roaming charges when I go there next week I should turn the "data roaming" off or on on my phone? If not on EE then turn off Mobile Data on iPhones, as I think only EE blocks data until you choose a roaming data package. |
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depends which UK network you are with. When I went to Guernsey with my EE phone I had all the EU options but when I came home the charges were actually cheaper as the Channel Islands and the IOM are outside the EU so VAT exempt.
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You do pay vat on roaming charges in the IOM courtesy of the law which means the IOM is effectively part of the UK for vat purposes.
I think they have Sure (no longer C&W) and Meteor networks, and O2 on IOM don't they? The O2 is of course not the same as UK. |
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Interesting, I thought they were same as Channel Islands, thanks !
I think they have Sure (no longer C&W) and Meteor networks, and O2 on IOM don't they? The O2 is of course not the same as UK. I believe the Isle of Man is included in EE Extra Plans which isn't to bad as they block roaming data. |
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Yes that's right. It's Sure and Manx Telecom. MT never used the O2 brand.
Back in the analogue days when they were all part of BT, Cellnet had an advantage over Vodafone as they covered the Isle of Man (and the Channel Islands) as this 1987 Cellnet map shows. https://e87fbc5e-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites....attredirects=0 |
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I just have a basic Galaxy Ace, on a sim only rolling Virgin tariff. So I should turn off data completely then?
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Yes that's right. It's Sure and Manx Telecom. MT never used the O2 brand.
Back in the analogue days when they were all part of BT, Cellnet had an advantage over Vodafone as they covered the Isle of Man (and the Channel Islands) as this 1987 Cellnet map shows. Great Cellnet map! The wonders of analogue
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Has anyone managed to get onto a UK network whilst in the IoM? We are often hearing about people in Kent and Sussex accidently roaming onto a French network. Could you apply the same in reverse to save money?
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Has anyone managed to get onto a UK network whilst in the IoM? We are often hearing about people in Kent and Sussex accidently roaming onto a French network. Could you apply the same in reverse to save money?
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I'm unsure about Android, but with iOS turning data roaming off will NOT stop charges in the Isle of Man. iOS considers it to be local but your provider considers it to be abroad. Turn data off entirely. I was caught out by this a couple of years back.
The 'Data Roaming'-Option build into Android normally also turns off National-Roaming. So Android shouldn't be a problem. |
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There were some days on my trip there that I found I was connecting to the Three network, but it wouldn't do anything. It had an effect on the local networks too. I imagine that the atmospherics at times really cause havoc with the signal on the local cells with connections and speeds dropping badly. That was high up overlooking Douglas though, so I imagine inland would be affected less where the signal is shielded from the UK mainland.
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The good thing with the IOM is it's really easy to get a PAYG SIM sent through the post to a UK address. I went with Sure and I believe it was £10 for a PAYG SIM with £10 credit and then while I was there it cost £1 per day from the inclusive credit for unlimited data (500MB full speed), so you just use an old phone as a hotspot and tether your normal UK mobile having switched its data off. 3G speed was nothing amazing, but it worked. You can pay by card by calling a Sure shop and they send you the SIM in the post.
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Yes, you should make sure the 'Data Roaming'-Option also includes turning off National-Roaming as Mobile Phones consider ISM part of the UK.
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The MNC for the IOM is still 234 I think which is for the UK and the IOM so I presume some just go off that and think the country hasn't changed.
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The MNC for the IOM is still 234 I think which is for the UK and the IOM so I presume some just go off that and think the country hasn't changed.
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This is correct. So phones see it as national roaming, rather than international roaming, and not necessarily disable data.
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