Smartphone

xxtimbo · 28-08-2015, 20:09

finally took the plunge and bought myself a smartphone

Sony ... looks like its tied to vodophone but dont
think Ill be signing up any time soon

Just having fun with it on the wi fi internet ... asking google questions by speech and getting audio answers !

Think Ive got text to speech ability in there too, when I
figure out how to highlight text or cut and paste.

Getting f fox browser ... you have to agree to a whole set of demands.... we want access to your photos
we want access to your loction
we want access to your cameras ....

I gave f fox a miss and went on to dolphin browser
only to see a similar list of demands you have to agree to to be able to download the browser !

1984 has arrived !

lightspeed2398 · 28-08-2015, 20:20

It's the modern world, sign away your soul to get faster internet. There's a line in some french song that I heard a while back "for a place in the sun, they'd return to the Bastille", kinda fits in with it.

alan1302 · 28-08-2015, 21:01

If you deny your browser access to everything then it can't do anything.

The one on your PC would have the same access - it just doesn't ask in the same way.

It's not like 1984 at all - you just don't understand why they need access.

finbaar · 28-08-2015, 21:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxtimbo

finally took the plunge and bought myself a smartphone

Sony ... looks like its tied to vodophone but dont
think Ill be signing up any time soon

Just having fun with it on the wi fi internet ... asking google questions by speech and getting audio answers !

Think Ive got text to speech ability in there too, when I
figure out how to highlight text or cut and paste.

Getting f fox browser ... you have to agree to a whole set of demands.... we want access to your photos
we want access to your loction
we want access to your cameras ....

I gave f fox a miss and went on to dolphin browser
only to see a similar list of demands you have to agree to to be able to download the browser !

1984 has arrived !

Why do you not understand? It's 2015 not 1984.

jchamier · 29-08-2015, 11:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxtimbo

only to see a similar list of demands you have to agree to to be able to download the browser !

This is how the Android system works, you get the choice up front, but can't change after. On a Windows, Linux or Mac computer you don't told. Only Apple is different and each app asks at the point it needs something, (and on Apple you can change your mind and block access without deleting the app). Android 6 is going to start doing something similar to Apple.

However most of these things are self explanatory, e.g. pictures access is needed if you want to save a picture from the browser to the gallery etc.

xxtimbo · 29-08-2015, 16:07

I ve put black tape over the camera on the front of the smart phone

(to stop snoopers spying on me )

ba_baracus · 29-08-2015, 18:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxtimbo

I ve put black tape over the camera on the front of the smart phone

(to stop snoopers spying on me )

Jesus wept.

d123 · 29-08-2015, 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxtimbo

I ve put black tape over the camera on the front of the smart phone

(to stop snoopers spying on me )

Don't forget to put a double layer of tinfoil over the top of the phone otherwise they can can still track and listen in to your conversations, even when you aren't on the phone.

alan1302 · 29-08-2015, 23:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxtimbo

I ve put black tape over the camera on the front of the smart phone

(to stop snoopers spying on me )

I call call BS...I sure do hope so!

Gigabit · 29-08-2015, 23:30

I don't see how a smartphone is any more dangerous privacy-wise than a computer...

psionic · 29-08-2015, 23:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxtimbo

I ve put black tape over the camera on the front of the smart phone

(to stop snoopers spying on me )

don't forget to cover up the mic too.

alan1302 · 30-08-2015, 01:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by psionic

don't forget to cover up the mic too.

That's very true...especially after you have taped your camera up as they will be thinking you are up to no good!

Stig · 30-08-2015, 07:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan1302

I call call BS...I sure do hope so!

No, try reading other xxtimbo threads.

finbaar · 30-08-2015, 11:03

I've put my new Galaxy S6 edge plus in a lead lined box and buried it in tha back garden. You can't be to careful.

Mass Corona · 30-08-2015, 11:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by ba_baracus

Jesus wept.

Was it captured on his smartphone?

xxtimbo · 10-09-2015, 18:09

I ve put two lots of a files onto the phone from the desk top comp
put some in podcasts folder some in media folder hoping to listen to
them using the smart phone

Still not been able to locate them on the phone

alan1302 · 10-09-2015, 20:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxtimbo

I ve put two lots of a files onto the phone from the desk top comp
put some in podcasts folder some in media folder hoping to listen to
them using the smart phone

Still not been able to locate them on the phone

They will have been sent to Google for checking - no doubt they will be back soon

tealady · 10-09-2015, 21:58

Were they the correct file types?
You can use a file manager to see them on the phone.

xxtimbo · 11-09-2015, 17:25

they are just simple mp3 audio files

but maybe .... if the phone does nt have the software to play them
maybe they just are nt appearing in the folders ?

Ive transferred about 500 meg of audio files to my phone,
cant see hide nor hare

Stig · 11-09-2015, 18:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxtimbo

they are just simple mp3 audio files

but maybe .... if the phone does nt have the software to play them
maybe they just are nt appearing in the folders ?

Ive transferred about 500 meg of audio files to my phone,
cant see hide nor hare

What model Sony is it?

Are you sure they are MP3 files and not WMA or something? Where did these music files originally come from?

ShaunIOW · 11-09-2015, 18:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxtimbo

they are just simple mp3 audio files

but maybe .... if the phone does nt have the software to play them
maybe they just are nt appearing in the folders ?

Ive transferred about 500 meg of audio files to my phone,
cant see hide nor hare

Being a Sony phone it'll have Walkman software on there for music playback, have yoiu put the files in a folder called Music? It can be on the SD Card then let the walkman software scan for a library. To name and add album covers I use MP3Tag which is free.

As for the permissions in the OP. I jumped ship from Android to Blackberry cause of all the permissions wanted (a lot of them just didn't seem necessary eg. why does an app to analyse my wireless signal strength at home need access to pictures, texts and contacts?) - the Blackberry runs the same android apps but for some reason they still work ok without the persmissions.

xxtimbo · 11-09-2015, 19:15

thinking about it, the files are mainly my own voice
made with audacity ... so maybe they are av ?

but you d think at least I could see them on my phone somewhere.... even if they dont play

Part of the reason I bought the phone was the thought that I could use it to play audio files.
its a more expensive one with 5 gig storage

i put some files in a folder called podcast
and some in a folder called media

Ill have to try putting them in the ... music... folder

d123 · 11-09-2015, 19:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by finbaar

I've put my new Galaxy S6 edge plus in a lead lined box and buried it in tha back garden. You can't be to careful.

So why do a half job?

If you were really serious about security you would have filled the hole with concrete and then built a patio over the top.

Stig · 11-09-2015, 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxtimbo

thinking about it, the files are mainly my own voice
made with audacity ... so maybe they are av ?

but you d think at least I could see them on my phone somewhere.... even if they dont play

Part of the reason I bought the phone was the thought that I could use it to play audio files.
its a more expensive one with 5 gig storage

i put some files in a folder called podcast
and some in a folder called media

Ill have to try putting them in the ... music... folder

If you made them in Audacity, then only you can say what format they are. You can almost certainly convert them to MP3 though.

tealady · 11-09-2015, 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stig

If you made them in Audacity, then only you can say what format they are. You can almost certainly convert them to MP3 though.

They are almost certainly audacity project files which aren't going to play on the phone
I doubt the OP has installed a required mp3 encoder.

28-08-2015, 20:09	#1
xxtimbo Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,683	Smartphone finally took the plunge and bought myself a smartphone Sony ... looks like its tied to vodophone but dont think Ill be signing up any time soon Just having fun with it on the wi fi internet ... asking google questions by speech and getting audio answers ! Think Ive got text to speech ability in there too, when I figure out how to highlight text or cut and paste. Getting f fox browser ... you have to agree to a whole set of demands.... we want access to your photos we want access to your loction we want access to your cameras .... I gave f fox a miss and went on to dolphin browser only to see a similar list of demands you have to agree to to be able to download the browser ! 1984 has arrived !

28-08-2015, 20:20	#2
lightspeed2398 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 1,325	It's the modern world, sign away your soul to get faster internet. There's a line in some french song that I heard a while back "for a place in the sun, they'd return to the Bastille", kinda fits in with it.

28-08-2015, 21:01	#3
alan1302 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West Yorks Posts: 6,180	If you deny your browser access to everything then it can't do anything. The one on your PC would have the same access - it just doesn't ask in the same way. It's not like 1984 at all - you just don't understand why they need access.

28-08-2015, 21:46	#4
finbaar Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,921	Quote: Originally Posted by xxtimbo finally took the plunge and bought myself a smartphone Sony ... looks like its tied to vodophone but dont think Ill be signing up any time soon Just having fun with it on the wi fi internet ... asking google questions by speech and getting audio answers ! Think Ive got text to speech ability in there too, when I figure out how to highlight text or cut and paste. Getting f fox browser ... you have to agree to a whole set of demands.... we want access to your photos we want access to your loction we want access to your cameras .... I gave f fox a miss and went on to dolphin browser only to see a similar list of demands you have to agree to to be able to download the browser ! 1984 has arrived ! Why do you not understand? It's 2015 not 1984.

29-08-2015, 11:17	#5
jchamier Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: This forum Posts: 3,392	Quote: Originally Posted by xxtimbo only to see a similar list of demands you have to agree to to be able to download the browser ! This is how the Android system works, you get the choice up front, but can't change after. On a Windows, Linux or Mac computer you don't told. Only Apple is different and each app asks at the point it needs something, (and on Apple you can change your mind and block access without deleting the app). Android 6 is going to start doing something similar to Apple. However most of these things are self explanatory, e.g. pictures access is needed if you want to save a picture from the browser to the gallery etc.

29-08-2015, 16:07	#6
xxtimbo Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,683	I ve put black tape over the camera on the front of the smart phone (to stop snoopers spying on me )

29-08-2015, 18:43	#7
ba_baracus Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,099	Quote: Originally Posted by xxtimbo I ve put black tape over the camera on the front of the smart phone (to stop snoopers spying on me ) Jesus wept.

29-08-2015, 20:15	#8
d123 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,993	Quote: Originally Posted by xxtimbo I ve put black tape over the camera on the front of the smart phone (to stop snoopers spying on me ) Don't forget to put a double layer of tinfoil over the top of the phone otherwise they can can still track and listen in to your conversations, even when you aren't on the phone.

29-08-2015, 23:02	#9
alan1302 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West Yorks Posts: 6,180	Quote: Originally Posted by xxtimbo I ve put black tape over the camera on the front of the smart phone (to stop snoopers spying on me ) I call call BS...I sure do hope so!

29-08-2015, 23:30	#10
Gigabit Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,887	I don't see how a smartphone is any more dangerous privacy-wise than a computer...

29-08-2015, 23:37	#11
psionic Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Crystal Palace TX Posts: 19,702	Quote: Originally Posted by xxtimbo I ve put black tape over the camera on the front of the smart phone (to stop snoopers spying on me ) don't forget to cover up the mic too.

30-08-2015, 01:00	#12
alan1302 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West Yorks Posts: 6,180	Quote: Originally Posted by psionic don't forget to cover up the mic too. That's very true...especially after you have taped your camera up as they will be thinking you are up to no good!

30-08-2015, 07:40	#13
Stig Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sandy Heath, Beds. UK Posts: 10,383	Quote: Originally Posted by alan1302 I call call BS...I sure do hope so! No, try reading other xxtimbo threads.

30-08-2015, 11:03	#14
finbaar Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,921	I've put my new Galaxy S6 edge plus in a lead lined box and buried it in tha back garden. You can't be to careful.

30-08-2015, 11:12	#15
Mass Corona Inactive Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 713	Quote: Originally Posted by ba_baracus Jesus wept. Was it captured on his smartphone?

10-09-2015, 18:09	#16
xxtimbo Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,683	I ve put two lots of a files onto the phone from the desk top comp put some in podcasts folder some in media folder hoping to listen to them using the smart phone Still not been able to locate them on the phone

10-09-2015, 20:55	#17
alan1302 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West Yorks Posts: 6,180	Quote: Originally Posted by xxtimbo I ve put two lots of a files onto the phone from the desk top comp put some in podcasts folder some in media folder hoping to listen to them using the smart phone Still not been able to locate them on the phone They will have been sent to Google for checking - no doubt they will be back soon

10-09-2015, 21:58	#18
tealady Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: colchester Posts: 15,352	Were they the correct file types? You can use a file manager to see them on the phone.

11-09-2015, 17:25	#19
xxtimbo Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,683	they are just simple mp3 audio files but maybe .... if the phone does nt have the software to play them maybe they just are nt appearing in the folders ? Ive transferred about 500 meg of audio files to my phone, cant see hide nor hare

11-09-2015, 18:18	#20
Stig Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sandy Heath, Beds. UK Posts: 10,383	Quote: Originally Posted by xxtimbo they are just simple mp3 audio files but maybe .... if the phone does nt have the software to play them maybe they just are nt appearing in the folders ? Ive transferred about 500 meg of audio files to my phone, cant see hide nor hare What model Sony is it? Are you sure they are MP3 files and not WMA or something? Where did these music files originally come from?

11-09-2015, 18:36	#21
ShaunIOW Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Isle of Wight Posts: 7,828	Quote: Originally Posted by xxtimbo they are just simple mp3 audio files but maybe .... if the phone does nt have the software to play them maybe they just are nt appearing in the folders ? Ive transferred about 500 meg of audio files to my phone, cant see hide nor hare Being a Sony phone it'll have Walkman software on there for music playback, have yoiu put the files in a folder called Music? It can be on the SD Card then let the walkman software scan for a library. To name and add album covers I use MP3Tag which is free. As for the permissions in the OP. I jumped ship from Android to Blackberry cause of all the permissions wanted (a lot of them just didn't seem necessary eg. why does an app to analyse my wireless signal strength at home need access to pictures, texts and contacts?) - the Blackberry runs the same android apps but for some reason they still work ok without the persmissions.

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11-09-2015, 19:15	#22
xxtimbo Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,683	thinking about it, the files are mainly my own voice made with audacity ... so maybe they are av ? but you d think at least I could see them on my phone somewhere.... even if they dont play Part of the reason I bought the phone was the thought that I could use it to play audio files. its a more expensive one with 5 gig storage i put some files in a folder called podcast and some in a folder called media Ill have to try putting them in the ... music... folder

11-09-2015, 19:38	#23
d123 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,993	Quote: Originally Posted by finbaar I've put my new Galaxy S6 edge plus in a lead lined box and buried it in tha back garden. You can't be to careful. So why do a half job? If you were really serious about security you would have filled the hole with concrete and then built a patio over the top.

11-09-2015, 19:42	#24
Stig Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sandy Heath, Beds. UK Posts: 10,383	Quote: Originally Posted by xxtimbo thinking about it, the files are mainly my own voice made with audacity ... so maybe they are av ? but you d think at least I could see them on my phone somewhere.... even if they dont play Part of the reason I bought the phone was the thought that I could use it to play audio files. its a more expensive one with 5 gig storage i put some files in a folder called podcast and some in a folder called media Ill have to try putting them in the ... music... folder If you made them in Audacity, then only you can say what format they are. You can almost certainly convert them to MP3 though.

11-09-2015, 21:28	#25
tealady Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: colchester Posts: 15,352	Quote: Originally Posted by Stig If you made them in Audacity, then only you can say what format they are. You can almost certainly convert them to MP3 though. They are almost certainly audacity project files which aren't going to play on the phone I doubt the OP has installed a required mp3 encoder.