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Old 29-08-2015, 14:22
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Not relevant to this series of Big Brother, but Big Brother were still wanting Boy George on just after he had beaten up and abused a rent boy, yet Tila wearing a stupid outfit gets her removed?!

Can anyone explain why political correctness is increasingly being thought of as worse than physical crimes now???

Physical is always worse than verbal or political correctness related crimes. Anyone who thinks otherwise has been brainwashed or has a chip on their shoulder.
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Old 29-08-2015, 22:30
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ItS called the moral high ground. To appear to promote good values is more important than having them in a superficial vain shallow society.
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Old 29-08-2015, 22:38
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iirc james hill beat up a guy and bit his ear according to an article i read in the independant.
the pcness is really silly.
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Old 29-08-2015, 22:38
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Michael Barrymore was a far more controversial housemate than Tila. The Lubbock affair ended his showbiz and TV career and he has never recovered.
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Old 29-08-2015, 23:02
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I find it quite tragic that anyone would even compare beating up a man to the holocaust. I am guessing the posters across this forum are under 30 possibly under 25 and what I always feared is happening. My parents lived through the war as children and I have met holocaust survivors. Maybe if you had sat and talked to the people I had you would have a different view. I would urge you to watch "the world at war" episode about the Jewish persecution . It is the only I TV programme to ever be broadcast without an advert break (it's an hour long). There are scenes that just as I type this I am welling up with tears and now sobbing. For a woman to pose outside where this happened in a uniform of the oppressors is unthinkable. I vomited watching what I thought were skeletons of adults and children being bulldozed into mass graves....turns out they were newly dead but were so thin they were skeletons with skin on them. How you are not affected by it I don't understand.....I find it a horrible world we live in now
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Old 30-08-2015, 00:19
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ItS called the moral high ground. To appear to promote good values is more important than having them in a superficial vain shallow society.
You do realise this is Celeb Big Brother? They get people on it for doing things like this in the first place!

BB is renowned for it's trashy reasons for getting people on.
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Old 30-08-2015, 00:29
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You do realise this is Celeb Big Brother? They get people on it for doing things like this in the first place!

BB is renowned for it's trashy reasons for getting people on.

I think JVB 69 has given an extremely good reason.
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Old 30-08-2015, 00:37
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I find it quite tragic that anyone would even compare beating up a man to the holocaust. I am guessing the posters across this forum are under 30 possibly under 25 and what I always feared is happening. My parents lived through the war as children and I have met holocaust survivors. Maybe if you had sat and talked to the people I had you would have a different view. I would urge you to watch "the world at war" episode about the Jewish persecution . It is the only I TV programme to ever be broadcast without an advert break (it's an hour long). There are scenes that just as I type this I am welling up with tears and now sobbing. For a woman to pose outside where this happened in a uniform of the oppressors is unthinkable. I vomited watching what I thought were skeletons of adults and children being bulldozed into mass graves....turns out they were newly dead but were so thin they were skeletons with skin on them. How you are not affected by it I don't understand.....I find it a horrible world we live in now
Are you serious? She had nothing to do with holocaust. She wore a piece of clothing, that's it. Why do people like you try to make out doing a little thing must mean they have huge strong views on something. You know she isn't clever and probably doesn't even know what the war is about. You're making her out to be a nasi follower which arguably is offensive in itself.

Don't try to patronise me, i know exactly what the war was about. You're the exact type of PC person that annoys me.
You must have much hatred for Allo Allo and Dad's Army then? Or do you have double standards.

Everyone knows how terrible the war is but when people use jokes or wear silly outfits, they are not laughing at what happened or anything like that, or making fun of those who lost their lives. They are just trying to be a bit controversial. You have to acknolwedge the fact that those who thought in the war and managed to survive actually found comedians funny who made jokes etc. I have spoken to people who were in the war, so i am totally aware of this.

Just to reiterate, she did not commit any physical crime or influence a physical act to happen, she just wore an outfit without having knowledge on the subject. If you got her to do a quick questionnaire on the war, she would probably fail every question.
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Old 30-08-2015, 00:44
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Are you serious? She had nothing to do with holocaust. She wore a piece of clothing, that's it. Why do people like you try to make out doing a little thing must mean they have huge strong views on something. You know she isn't clever and probably doesn't even know what the war is about. You're making her out to be a nasi follower which arguably is offensive in itself.

Don't try to patronise me, i know exactly what the war was about. You're the exact type of PC person that annoys me.
You must have much hatred for Allo Allo and Dad's Army then? Or do you have double standards.

Everyone knows how terrible the war is but when people use jokes or wear silly outfits, they are not laughing at what happened or anything like that, or making fun of those who lost their lives. They are just trying to be a bit controversial. You have to acknolwedge the fact that those who thought in the war and managed to survive actually found comedians funny who made jokes etc. I have spoken to people who were in the war, so i am totally aware of this.

Just to reiterate, she did not commit any physical crime or influence a physical act to happen, she just wore an outfit without having knowledge on the subject. If you got her to do a quick questionnaire on the war, she would probably fail every question.
To be fair it's wasn't just about the outfit. I believe it's to do with the comments she made on her Facebook page.
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Old 30-08-2015, 00:51
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Michael Barrymore was a far more controversial housemate than Tila. The Lubbock affair ended his showbiz and TV career and he has never recovered.
Indeed.

How he ever got a slot on CBB after such a high profile case, beats me.
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Old 30-08-2015, 00:55
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I find it quite tragic that anyone would even compare beating up a man to the holocaust. I am guessing the posters across this forum are under 30 possibly under 25 and what I always feared is happening. My parents lived through the war as children and I have met holocaust survivors. Maybe if you had sat and talked to the people I had you would have a different view. I would urge you to watch "the world at war" episode about the Jewish persecution . It is the only I TV programme to ever be broadcast without an advert break (it's an hour long). There are scenes that just as I type this I am welling up with tears and now sobbing. For a woman to pose outside where this happened in a uniform of the oppressors is unthinkable. I vomited watching what I thought were skeletons of adults and children being bulldozed into mass graves....turns out they were newly dead but were so thin they were skeletons with skin on them. How you are not affected by it I don't understand.....I find it a horrible world we live in now
By your own standards, this post is quite tragic.

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Old 30-08-2015, 00:56
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Are you serious? She had nothing to do with holocaust. She wore a piece of clothing, that's it. Why do people like you try to make out doing a little thing must mean they have huge strong views on something. You know she isn't clever and probably doesn't even know what the war is about. You're making her out to be a nasi follower which arguably is offensive in itself.

Don't try to patronise me, i know exactly what the war was about. You're the exact type of PC person that annoys me.
You must have much hatred for Allo Allo and Dad's Army then? Or do you have double standards.

Everyone knows how terrible the war is but when people use jokes or wear silly outfits, they are not laughing at what happened or anything like that, or making fun of those who lost their lives. They are just trying to be a bit controversial. You have to acknolwedge the fact that those who thought in the war and managed to survive actually found comedians funny who made jokes etc. I have spoken to people who were in the war, so i am totally aware of this.

Just to reiterate, she did not commit any physical crime or influence a physical act to happen, she just wore an outfit without having knowledge on the subject. If you got her to do a quick questionnaire on the war, she would probably fail every question.
You haven't shown any evidence that it was all comedy on her part, or indeed that she actually believed in her convictions.

I'm not for demonising her at all. But nothing anywhere I've seen, does she say she regrets her actions.

And if indeed she has and there's proof of that online for us all to see, then Ch5 and CBB were wrong to remove her.
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Old 30-08-2015, 00:57
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By your own standards, this post is quite tragic.

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Nevertheless Joe, she's seen as provacative.
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Old 30-08-2015, 01:08
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Nevertheless Joe, she's seen as provacative.
Yes, I get that. I haven't really formulated an opinion on that though, since facts are thin on the ground. I gather that there were some complaints about her being on BB because it was seen as 'condoning Nazism' or some such. Were there complaints to Ofcom? Is that why Channel 5 started their 'investigation'?

I've seen the open letter of apology though, so I understand broadly what it's about. However (and please don't think I'm 'condoning Nazism' either) having extreme views is not a crime in itself, 'stymying Nazism' is not within the remit of Ofcom and Big Brother has always courted controversy, so I'm baffled as to why she was removed.
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Old 30-08-2015, 01:13
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You do realise this is Celeb Big Brother? They get people on it for doing things like this in the first place!

BB is renowned for it's trashy reasons for getting people on.
The 88 in your name, do you know what that is in far-right language?
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Old 30-08-2015, 01:17
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Yes, I get that. I haven't really formulated an opinion on that though, since facts are thin on the ground. I gather that there were some complaints about her being on BB because it was seen as 'condoning Nazism' or some such. Were there complaints to Ofcom? Is that why Channel 5 started their 'investigation'?

I've seen the open letter of apology though, so I understand broadly what it's about. However (and please don't think I'm 'condoning Nazism' either) having extreme views is not a crime in itself, 'stymying Nazism' is not within the remit of Ofcom and Big Brother has always courted controversy, so I'm baffled as to why she was removed.
To make it clear about my view is that I think Ch5 and CBB have pulled a publicity stunt with this and I think they are absolutely despicable.

That's what I think of this fckn rotten show.

They will stoop to whatever to gain notoriety. Even evict Tila in a pre-arranged contract (how could she ever win otherwise)

[They] are fckd up corrupt bstds that will do anything to gain notoriety and headlines.

Even through a effed up young women whom I believe has been corrupted.
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Old 30-08-2015, 01:17
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I would urge you to watch "the world at war" episode about the Jewish persecution
I did watch this when it was first aired (possibly 1970s tv broadcast) And believe me, it haunts me to this day, even though I have no connections with any relative involved in the events. The most distressing thing I have ever watched Oh God, being reminded of that bulldozer scene shakes my being
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Old 30-08-2015, 01:23
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I find it quite tragic that anyone would even compare beating up a man to the holocaust. I am guessing the posters across this forum are under 30 possibly under 25 and what I always feared is happening. My parents lived through the war as children and I have met holocaust survivors. Maybe if you had sat and talked to the people I had you would have a different view. I would urge you to watch "the world at war" episode about the Jewish persecution . It is the only I TV programme to ever be broadcast without an advert break (it's an hour long). There are scenes that just as I type this I am welling up with tears and now sobbing. For a woman to pose outside where this happened in a uniform of the oppressors is unthinkable. I vomited watching what I thought were skeletons of adults and children being bulldozed into mass graves....turns out they were newly dead but were so thin they were skeletons with skin on them. How you are not affected by it I don't understand.....I find it a horrible world we live in now
I said all this yesterday and it fell on deaf ears .....the ignorance on here regarding the holocaust is unbelievable
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Old 30-08-2015, 01:29
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I said all this yesterday and it fell on deaf ears .....the ignorance on here regarding the holocaust is unbelievable
Who's ignorant of the holocaust?
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Old 30-08-2015, 01:36
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I find it quite tragic that anyone would even compare beating up a man to the holocaust. I am guessing the posters across this forum are under 30 possibly under 25 and what I always feared is happening. My parents lived through the war as children and I have met holocaust survivors. Maybe if you had sat and talked to the people I had you would have a different view. I would urge you to watch "the world at war" episode about the Jewish persecution . It is the only I TV programme to ever be broadcast without an advert break (it's an hour long). There are scenes that just as I type this I am welling up with tears and now sobbing. For a woman to pose outside where this happened in a uniform of the oppressors is unthinkable. I vomited watching what I thought were skeletons of adults and children being bulldozed into mass graves....turns out they were newly dead but were so thin they were skeletons with skin on them. How you are not affected by it I don't understand.....I find it a horrible world we live in now
All very well and emotive, but Tila has never killed anyone! People should be allowed to think what they want, however abhorrent - what George did was worse as he actually did something violent and criminal.
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Old 30-08-2015, 01:41
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I said all this yesterday and it fell on deaf ears .....the ignorance on here regarding the holocaust is unbelievable
And it's been explained to you that everybody understands how bad the holocaust was, but what Tila did had absolutely nothing to do with the show, THAT is what people are saying here. You know what, i think she is an idiotic moron who hasn't got a clue what she is talking about when it comes to the war, but she isn't the first person to post disgusting things on a form of social media and she won't be the last, the difference is those people won't be kicked off the show for it.

Katie Hopkins wants Palestines to be murdered, she said it herself on Twitter. They knew about this and all of the other things she has said and she was still allowed on the show and was allowed to stay on the show until the very end.

It's the double standards that is annoying people here. If they were at least consistent then maybe people would understand. The only reason they kicked her out was because of political correctness.
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Old 30-08-2015, 01:46
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And it's been explained to you that everybody understands how bad the holocaust was, but what Tila did had absolutely nothing to do with the show, THAT is what people are saying here. You know what, i think she is an idiotic moron who hasn't got a clue what she is talking about when it comes to the war, but she isn't the first person to post disgusting things on a form of social media and she won't be the last, the difference is those people won't be kicked off the show for it.

Katie Hopkins wants Palestines to be murdered, she said it herself on Twitter. They knew about this and all of the other things she has said and she was still allowed on the show and was allowed to stay on the show until the very end.

It's the double standards that is annoying people here. If they were at least consistent then maybe people would understand. The only reason they kicked her out was because of political correctness.
I get what your saying....but it's not just about her posting on social media....we can all say and do things in the heat of the moment or if we had one too many drinks...what makes this bad is having her pic taken outside a concentration camp in nazi uniform
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Old 30-08-2015, 01:52
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And it's been explained to you that everybody understands how bad the holocaust was, but what Tila did had absolutely nothing to do with the show, THAT is what people are saying here. You know what, i think she is an idiotic moron who hasn't got a clue what she is talking about when it comes to the war, but she isn't the first person to post disgusting things on a form of social media and she won't be the last, the difference is those people won't be kicked off the show for it.

Katie Hopkins wants Palestines to be murdered, she said it herself on Twitter. They knew about this and all of the other things she has said and she was still allowed on the show and was allowed to stay on the show until the very end.

It's the double standards that is annoying people here. If they were at least consistent then maybe people would understand. The only reason they kicked her out was because of political correctness.
I was with you up until the last sentence. We can't say with any certainty that the only reason they kicked her out was because of political correctness. What if they were more or less told to remove her from the house? That would surely exonerate the producers, at least, from having double standards.
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Old 30-08-2015, 01:55
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I was with you up until the last sentence. We can't say with any certainty that the only reason they kicked her out was because of political correctness. What if they were more or less told to remove her from the house? That would surely exonerate the producers, at least, from having double standards.
I still stand by what i said though. Even if they were told that they had to remove her, it's still because of political correctness.
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Old 30-08-2015, 01:57
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I was with you up until the last sentence. We can't say with any certainty that the only reason they kicked her out was because of political correctness. What if they were more or less told to remove her from the house? That would surely exonerate the producers, at least, from having double standards.
In any event, we the viewers have a bloody right to know why.

Neither Emma or Ryan explained shit.

Why shouldn't the public get to know their reasons for ejecting a housemate?
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