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Old 30-08-2015, 02:02
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I still stand by what i said though. Even if they were told that they had to remove her, it's still because of political correctness.
But not double standards. As in, all this talk of "OMG why did the producers not just read her Wikipedia page first?" and questioning the so-called 'psyche tests' would be moot. The backlash could have come from a previously unbeknownst Channel 5 executive, for example. What was legal yesterday may be illegal tomorrow. That isn't double standards.
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Old 30-08-2015, 02:06
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But not double standards. As in, all this talk of "OMG why did the producers not just read her Wikipedia page first?" and questioning the so-called 'psyche tests' would be moot. The backlash could have come from a previously unbeknownst Channel 5 executive, for example. What was legal yesterday may be illegal tomorrow. That isn't double standards.
It's still fckn bullshit.
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Old 30-08-2015, 02:06
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A woman who has since immediately said she was seriously mentally ill and off her head on drugs for years at the time (and despite sobriety is clearly still not with it), and apologised profusely, did something disturbing at that time that disgusts people...are people really that surprised?

To be fair it's wasn't just about the outfit. I believe it's to do with the comments she made on her Facebook page.
I think she's entitled to her views (however mad) as anyone is - the photo was the worst thing for me. But I don't think some folk should get so upset by someone who was on TV for less than a few hours a day for just two, displayed no such convictions that we saw, and will be forgotten within a week. Save that energy for the folk that truly matter, like the politicians still in parliament who supported our genocide in Iraq, and do something more productive about it than posting on an entertainment forum.

I did not see such outrage about Hopkins' ongoing view that Palestinians should be bombed, despite it happening now (with the US and UK's - at least tacit - support).

If we're going back to WW2 try visiting Hiroshima sometime...you will never be the same again. And it was a good thing - right? - because the history books (written by the victors) tell us it ended the war. But (in that case) other more reasoned and researched books (imo) tell us it wasn't necessary at all, the Japanese were on the brink of surrender anyway. **** it though, let's nuke Nagasaki too, just to show who's boss.

Stalin was (again imho) far far worse than Hitler, very many more deaths, and had a direct hand (rather than delegating) in far more of them. Yes good old Stalin, carved up Eastern Europe with Hitler, and Churchill still wanted an alliance with him (and got his wish in the end). But we dealt with him after the war didn't we...oh, whoopsie.

There would be no NASA without the Nazi scientists the US pinched during and after the war. Where's the outrage about, say, any NASA stuff on our TV and in our museums?

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I'm not for demonising her at all. But nothing anywhere I've seen, does she say she regrets her actions.
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So you haven't seen her comprehensive and heartfelt apology and explanation then?

To make it clear about my view is that I think Ch5 and CBB have pulled a publicity stunt with this and I think they are absolutely despicable.

That's what I think of this fckn rotten show.

They will stoop to whatever to gain notoriety. Even evict Tila in a pre-arranged contract (how could she ever win otherwise)

[They] are fckd up corrupt bstds that will do anything to gain notoriety and headlines.

Even through a effed up young women whom I believe has been corrupted.
I agree.

BB must have been aware, otherwise they are guilty of gross negligence imo.

Michael Barrymore was a far more controversial housemate than Tila. The Lubbock affair ended his showbiz and TV career and he has never recovered.
And that was the series that had Jimmy Savile coming into the house for a few days to 'make peoples' dreams come true', with Barrymore looking petrified beyond when he came in, and Galloway grovelling at his feet.

As much as this is an entertainment show, there has almost always been much more to it than meets the eye. But it's not generally talked about on here. And so I'm done with talking about Tila anymore - a storm in a teacup, or to put it another way just yet another who's been chewed up and spat out by BB for their own ends imo, and I will get back to just the entertainment side of it.

Peace to all, always
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Old 30-08-2015, 08:16
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I said all this yesterday and it fell on deaf ears .....the ignorance on here regarding the holocaust is unbelievable
Oh did you, really......

I read your posts yesterday and what I observed, was you bemoaning (incorrectly and condscendingly) that Hitler was forgotten, which I responded to. You also called Tila a Nazi loving b*tch and told one contributor to go read up on history.

I am at a loss as to why you condscendingly and patronizingly accuse posters of being ignorant to the atrocities carried out in WW2.

I wonder if a chat with you would enlighten me to the deeds of Josef Stalin & Mussolini as well......

Please allow me to assure you that nobody with a modicum of education or decency condones or has forgotten Hitler so please, enough with the incorrect assumptions.
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Old 30-08-2015, 08:17
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Why is Cheryl on X Factor after her conviction?
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Old 30-08-2015, 08:42
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I find it quite tragic that anyone would even compare beating up a man to the holocaust. I am guessing the posters across this forum are under 30 possibly under 25 and what I always feared is happening. My parents lived through the war as children and I have met holocaust survivors. Maybe if you had sat and talked to the people I had you would have a different view. I would urge you to watch "the world at war" episode about the Jewish persecution . It is the only I TV programme to ever be broadcast without an advert break (it's an hour long). There are scenes that just as I type this I am welling up with tears and now sobbing. For a woman to pose outside where this happened in a uniform of the oppressors is unthinkable. I vomited watching what I thought were skeletons of adults and children being bulldozed into mass graves....turns out they were newly dead but were so thin they were skeletons with skin on them. How you are not affected by it I don't understand.....I find it a horrible world we live in now
I agree with you.
Whether Tila just did it for publicity or whether they are her actual views remains to be seen but whatever, there is no place in an entertainment programme for anyone like that.
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Old 30-08-2015, 08:46
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Are you serious? She had nothing to do with holocaust. She wore a piece of clothing, that's it. Why do people like you try to make out doing a little thing must mean they have huge strong views on something. You know she isn't clever and probably doesn't even know what the war is about. You're making her out to be a nasi follower which arguably is offensive in itself.

Don't try to patronise me, i know exactly what the war was about. You're the exact type of PC person that annoys me.
You must have much hatred for Allo Allo and Dad's Army then? Or do you have double standards.

Everyone knows how terrible the war is but when people use jokes or wear silly outfits, they are not laughing at what happened or anything like that, or making fun of those who lost their lives. They are just trying to be a bit controversial. You have to acknolwedge the fact that those who thought in the war and managed to survive actually found comedians funny who made jokes etc. I have spoken to people who were in the war, so i am totally aware of this.

Just to reiterate, she did not commit any physical crime or influence a physical act to happen, she just wore an outfit without having knowledge on the subject. If you got her to do a quick questionnaire on the war, she would probably fail every question.
Tila did actually say that she was Adolf Hitlet reincarnated...and that he was a good man ???
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Old 30-08-2015, 08:56
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I find it quite tragic that anyone would even compare beating up a man to the holocaust. I am guessing the posters across this forum are under 30 possibly under 25 and what I always feared is happening. My parents lived through the war as children and I have met holocaust survivors. Maybe if you had sat and talked to the people I had you would have a different view. I would urge you to watch "the world at war" episode about the Jewish persecution . It is the only I TV programme to ever be broadcast without an advert break (it's an hour long). There are scenes that just as I type this I am welling up with tears and now sobbing. For a woman to pose outside where this happened in a uniform of the oppressors is unthinkable. I vomited watching what I thought were skeletons of adults and children being bulldozed into mass graves....turns out they were newly dead but were so thin they were skeletons with skin on them. How you are not affected by it I don't understand.....I find it a horrible world we live in now

People are stupid plain and simple. How many people can say they have never got into a fight or a heated argument with someone. If they banned everyone from BB who did that they would never have anyone on the show?
Tila is a silly attention seeking cow. I don't for a minute buy her silly excuse about being depressed and wanting to take her life etc. for her disgusting, vile actions regarding Hitler.

She got above her stations and wanted to behave in a way to shock people because she knows it was a very controversial act and statement to make.
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Old 30-08-2015, 09:10
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Are you serious? She had nothing to do with holocaust. She wore a piece of clothing, that's it. Why do people like you try to make out doing a little thing must mean they have huge strong views on something. You know she isn't clever and probably doesn't even know what the war is about. You're making her out to be a nasi follower which arguably is offensive in itself.

Don't try to patronise me, i know exactly what the war was about. You're the exact type of PC person that annoys me.
You must have much hatred for Allo Allo and Dad's Army then? Or do you have double standards.

Everyone knows how terrible the war is but when people use jokes or wear silly outfits, they are not laughing at what happened or anything like that, or making fun of those who lost their lives. They are just trying to be a bit controversial. You have to acknolwedge the fact that those who thought in the war and managed to survive actually found comedians funny who made jokes etc. I have spoken to people who were in the war, so i am totally aware of this.

Just to reiterate, she did not commit any physical crime or influence a physical act to happen, she just wore an outfit without having knowledge on the subject. If you got her to do a quick questionnaire on the war, she would probably fail every question.

More reason why she should have kept her thick behaviour to herself then. I do not believe that she knew nothing about the holocaust either.
Making fun of the war is one thing. Dressing up and making a statement is another.
Lets turn this around and closer to home. If someone dressed up as Jihad John and made statements about him not being as bad as people thought or dressed up as the vile killers that killed the off duty soldier in London (I will not name him) would you be as forgiving and say they don't understand what they are doing?
No matter how long ago something happened people were still affected by it or have family that are still alive and have some experience of it.
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Old 30-08-2015, 10:37
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I find it quite tragic that anyone would even compare beating up a man to the holocaust. I am guessing the posters across this forum are under 30 possibly under 25 and what I always feared is happening. My parents lived through the war as children and I have met holocaust survivors. Maybe if you had sat and talked to the people I had you would have a different view. I would urge you to watch "the world at war" episode about the Jewish persecution . It is the only I TV programme to ever be broadcast without an advert break (it's an hour long). There are scenes that just as I type this I am welling up with tears and now sobbing. For a woman to pose outside where this happened in a uniform of the oppressors is unthinkable. I vomited watching what I thought were skeletons of adults and children being bulldozed into mass graves....turns out they were newly dead but were so thin they were skeletons with skin on them. How you are not affected by it I don't understand.....I find it a horrible world we live in now
Younger people seem to have been infected by the disassociation of modern society. It's fascinating. Any moral quibbles are batted away with 'pc gone mad'; but there's a level of anger about the removal of Tila that's telling in itself. These people don't like her; but they see that disassociation being challenged and they're frustrated for reasons they don't fully comprehend.


People are stupid plain and simple. How many people can say they have never got into a fight or a heated argument with someone. If they banned everyone from BB who did that they would never have anyone on the show?
Tila is a silly attention seeking cow. I don't for a minute buy her silly excuse about being depressed and wanting to take her life etc. for her disgusting, vile actions regarding Hitler.

She got above her stations and wanted to behave in a way to shock people because she knows it was a very controversial act and statement to make.
Agreed; that wasn't an apology, it was a woe is me missive diverting attention away from her disgusting actions and the very definition of narcissism, combined with monumental stupidity.
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Old 30-08-2015, 10:48
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More reason why she should have kept her thick behaviour to herself then. I do not believe that she knew nothing about the holocaust either.
Making fun of the war is one thing. Dressing up and making a statement is another.
Lets turn this around and closer to home. If someone dressed up as Jihad John and made statements about him not being as bad as people thought or dressed up as the vile killers that killed the off duty soldier in London (I will not name him) would you be as forgiving and say they don't understand what they are doing?
No matter how long ago something happened people were still affected by it or have family that are still alive and have some experience of it.
Well said. There's enough going on in real life these days without being reminded (daily) of this stupid woman's five personalities.
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Old 30-08-2015, 10:50
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Well said. There's enough going on in real life these days without being reminded (daily) of this stupid woman's five personalities.
Yeah, i'm done talking about Tila. She should never have been selected; she's no loss.

The debate after the fact has been quite eye-opening about a lot of posters' lack of moral compass. You're not allowed one anymore, apparently - it's 'PC gone mad'.
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Old 30-08-2015, 11:02
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Yeah, i'm done talking about Tila. She should never have been selected; she's no loss.

The debate after the fact has been quite eye-opening about a lot of posters' lack of moral compass. You're not allowed one anymore, apparently - it's 'PC gone mad'.
Yeah, me too. She's no loss at all. Good riddance to bad rubbish as far as I'm concerned. There's no excuse for defending people like her.
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Old 30-08-2015, 12:16
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I really can't believe C5's claims of innocence and ignorance, given that the Daily Telegraph - not exactly the organ of the BB watcher - can dig this lot up in no time:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...al-quotes.html
How did she pass the psychological assessments?
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Old 30-08-2015, 14:48
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She wasn't removed because of she wore an outfit. She was apparently removed because of her views on Hitler and the casualties of war.

To be honest she appears to have been fairly vocal about her views which makes me wonder why Channel 5 weren't aware of her views. So I hope some researcher has also been removed.
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Old 30-08-2015, 15:16
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Yeah, i'm done talking about Tila. She should never have been selected; she's no loss.

The debate after the fact has been quite eye-opening about a lot of posters' lack of moral compass. You're not allowed one anymore, apparently - it's 'PC gone mad'.
This 100%. I was surprised she was hired, She's not famous here. But then most of them aren't famous here. She's has a bit of infamy. These reality people are rarely seen again, here. I only watch the big 3 , which CBB has never hired ex contestants of, so they're all new to me. Fact is I only know Janice from her UK reality stuff. Marc Jacobs ex boyfriend ... Talk about scraping the barrel.
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Old 30-08-2015, 16:03
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What? Someone is wondering why that nazi loving anti-semitic tart was thrown out?

Her obnoxious views are disgusting and posing outside Auschwitz in Nazi gear and claiming to be 'Hitler reborn' is just abominable.

Good riddance to her and hope we never see or hear from her again, although I wouldn't have thought anybody has heard of her anyway.
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Old 30-08-2015, 16:10
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What? Someone is wondering why that nazi loving anti-semitic tart was thrown out?

Her obnoxious views are disgusting and posing outside Auschwitz in Nazi gear and claiming to be 'Hitler reborn' is just abominable.

Good riddance to her and hope we never see or hear from her again, although I wouldn't have thought anybody has heard of her anyway.
Jeez the picture was a photo shop
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