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Louisa Johnson
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DamienS
01-09-2015
I already predict that she will struggle with the themes on the lives.
jerefprdterra
01-09-2015
Even at this early stage i can see Louisa finishing in the top 5. Some great material on her You Tube channel.
lewismacf
01-09-2015
I really hope Simon gets her
big bang theory
01-09-2015
Originally Posted by Skyler_Wright:
“Why so many people on here go on about shouting?

They're not shouting they're singing and I like that style, it's confidence.

Louisa audition was good, she will get far, she has the package, she's white, blonde and sings dress like a black girl.”

Pretty white girls struggle more than any other type of act in the competition.

Although attractive girls struggle to win this show full stop, but it says how bad it is for the attractive white girls that when the only white girl that's won the show is Sam Bailey.

And some of us are going on about shouting because we thought that her performance was shouty, in my opinion the best acts are the ones not hitting gimmicky notes or doing gimmicky routines, sadly the show and the general public seem to only like those two styles nowadays and it's sad to me that anybody that doesn't do those two styles of performances are now an alternative act, even if they're still a Pop act.
jerefprdterra
01-09-2015
Originally Posted by big bang theory:
“Pretty white girls struggle more than any other type of act in the competition.

Although attractive girls struggle to win this show full stop, but it says how bad it is for the attractive white girls that when the only white girl that's won the show is Sam Bailey.

And some of us are going on about shouting because we thought that her performance was shouty, in my opinion the best acts are the ones not hitting gimmicky notes or doing gimmicky routines, sadly the show and the general public seem to only like those two styles nowadays and it's sad to me that anybody that doesn't do those two styles of performances are now an alternative act, even if they're still a Pop act.”

The main problem the show has is that thee vast majority of voters only seem to like pop and rock, and any other style of music passes them by. That is why The Voice is better becaise ot attracts viewers who like a wider range of music.
big bang theory
01-09-2015
Originally Posted by jerefprdterra:
“The main problem the show has is that thee vast majority of voters only seem to like pop and rock, and any other style of music passes them by. That is why The Voice is better becaise ot attracts viewers who like a wider range of music.”

Rock on the show is ridiculously watered down though, Ben last year was basically a bland and generic shouty Pop singer in the end.

Where is the Muse style Rock? They've never even touched any of their songs on this show because they don't have any Pop tinges to their songs.

Do you watch the US Voice by the way? I really love that show and your favourites really can be down to just personal preference than it is on this show where it kind of corners the audience in who to support.
jerefprdterra
01-09-2015
Originally Posted by big bang theory:
“Rock on the show is ridiculously watered down though, Ben last year was basically a bland and generic shouty Pop singer in the end.

Where is the Muse style Rock? They've never even touched any of their songs on this show because they don't have any Pop tinges to their songs.

Do you watch the US Voice by the way? I really love that show and your favourites really can be down to just personal preference than it is on this show where it kind of corners the audience in who to support.”

Watched quite a few of the US Voice acts on the You Tube channel, and the standard is pretty decent. I liked Koryn Hawthorne and India Carney.
big bang theory
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by jerefprdterra:
“Watched quite a few of the US Voice acts on the You Tube channel, and the standard is pretty decent. I liked Koryn Hawthorne and India Carney.”

Koryn was very good, have you listened to her Make It Rain performance? Now that's how to do a powerful vocal without coming across as shouting in my opinion.

The X Factor should look for more acts like Koryn for the belty Diva types.
jerefprdterra
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by big bang theory:
“Koryn was very good, have you listened to her Make It Rain performance? Now that's how to do a powerful vocal without coming across as shouting in my opinion.

The X Factor should look for more acts like Koryn for the belty Diva types.”

Agree with you on this, and she is a notch up in class on anything that we are likely to see in XF.
sofakat
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by Skyler_Wright:
“Why so many people on here go on about shouting?

They're not shouting they're singing and I like that style, it's confidence.

Louisa audition was good, she will get far, she has the package, she's white, blonde and sings dress like a black girl.”

OTT, a bit tacky, fake looking and obvious. Soul singer? You are joking! She has about as much soul as the Towie bimbos.

Zilch.
sofakat
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by big bang theory:
“Koryn was very good, have you listened to her Make It Rain performance? Now that's how to do a powerful vocal without coming across as shouting in my opinion.

The X Factor should look for more acts like Koryn for the belty Diva types.”

Yes please! Loved her. Great voice.
jerefprdterra
02-09-2015
Louisa when she was very young. http://www.tellymix.co.uk/videos/230...years-old.html
pjh8
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by big bang theory:
“Pretty white girls struggle more than any other type of act in the competition.

Although attractive girls struggle to win this show full stop, but it says how bad it is for the attractive white girls that when the only white girl that's won the show is Sam Bailey.

And some of us are going on about shouting because we thought that her performance was shouty, in my opinion the best acts are the ones not hitting gimmicky notes or doing gimmicky routines, sadly the show and the general public seem to only like those two styles nowadays and it's sad to me that anybody that doesn't do those two styles of performances are now an alternative act, even if they're still a Pop act.”

Tbf you could also say Perrie Edwards, Jesy Nelson and Jade Thirwall (if she's considered white) were all voted winners.
mysty211
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by jerefprdterra:
“Louisa when she was very young. http://www.tellymix.co.uk/videos/230...years-old.html”

Wow Louisa is sooooo incredible at that age her voice definitely born to sing!
Master Ozzy
02-09-2015
She's just shouty.
jerefprdterra
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by Master Ozzy:
“She's just shouty.”

How did i know that you would post that/ You are so predictable with the posts.
Master Ozzy
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by jerefprdterra:
“How did i know that you would post that/ You are so predictable with the posts.”

As are you with yours. We must both be psychic.
big bang theory
03-09-2015
Originally Posted by pjh8:
“Tbf you could also say Perrie Edwards, Jesy Nelson and Jade Thirwall (if she's considered white) were all voted winners.”

I honestly think that if Jesy (I think that was the one) hadn't have been crying about being “ugly” which is her words in the VT's of that series, then Little Mix would've come about 4th or 3rd if they was extremely lucky.

Any attractive girl (and I mean any girl) that tries to make themselves look more sexy seem to have their votes drop in that week whilst the males when they do it increase their vote share.

Just look at the last series for example Lauren drops votes in week 4 despite delivering a decent performance, Lola in week 3 and 4 goes from 6th in the first two weeks when she was looking like an Adele tribute act to 9th and 10th in the weeks that she looked attractive, where as Ben in week 4 when he sexed himself up topped his very first vote.

Tamera in series 10 was never allowed to go on early in the running order because she was that disliked by the general public.

I'm interested to see how Louisa goes if she makes the lives, because she's got The X Factor cliched voice, but she does have the pretty girl looks so it'll be interesting to see if she can break the curse.
Sick n Sexified
03-09-2015
She has a distinctive voice, I liked her audition

For 17 I thought she was pretty impressive.
qwerty_1234
03-09-2015
The main struggle that these "young, white females" have is that they don't have an identity. Typically, a stronger confident woman struggles with votes - Misha B, Kitty Brucknell (anomaly here is Fleur, but she was extremely likeable in other ways). Older ladies do well in the sense that they have lived a hard working life and we are giving them their last chance (Mary Byrne, Sam Bailey) however unless the younger girl has a "quirk" of sorts (Cher Lloyd, Diana Vickers, Janet Devlin), they struggle to get much support in the live shows. The problem with having a musical "lane" (so to speak) like Cher and Diana did is that is doesn't appeal to everybody so they never tend to make the final.

The act I'd liken Louisa to most at present is Rebecca Ferguson. They're carving out a similar "confidence issue" storyline with Louisa (similar to what Rebecca, Leona and Alexandra all had) however Louisa isn't a classic, diva style belter like Leona and Alexandra were - she's more of a soul singer like Rebecca. Either way, Rebecca did well on the show, and if we can see a bit more personality from Louisa (let's face it, there's potential for that with a longer run up to the lives) she could do quite well. It's acts that are a bit vanilla (Lauren Platt, Ella Henderson, Laura White, Lola Saunders) which struggle.
jerefprdterra
03-09-2015
Originally Posted by qwerty_1234:
“The main struggle that these "young, white females" have is that they don't have an identity. Typically, a stronger confident woman struggles with votes - Misha B, Kitty Brucknell (anomaly here is Fleur, but she was extremely likeable in other ways). Older ladies do well in the sense that they have lived a hard working life and we are giving them their last chance (Mary Byrne, Sam Bailey) however unless the younger girl has a "quirk" of sorts (Cher Lloyd, Diana Vickers, Janet Devlin), they struggle to get much support in the live shows. The problem with having a musical "lane" (so to speak) like Cher and Diana did is that is doesn't appeal to everybody so they never tend to make the final.

The act I'd liken Louisa to most at present is Rebecca Ferguson. They're carving out a similar "confidence issue" storyline with Louisa (similar to what Rebecca, Leona and Alexandra all had) however Louisa isn't a classic, diva style belter like Leona and Alexandra were - she's more of a soul singer like Rebecca. Either way, Rebecca did well on the show, and if we can see a bit more personality from Louisa (let's face it, there's potential for that with a longer run up to the lives) she could do quite well. It's acts that are a bit vanilla (Lauren Platt, Ella Henderson, Laura White, Lola Saunders) which struggle.”

Some good points here. Rebecca of course is now doing well in jazz circles, with her recent album reaching the top 10. Being a soul music fan Louisa is right up my alley, and it will be interesting to see how she develops. I liked Jennifer Phillips first audition too, and it looks like she has progressed too, so my tastes are being catered for.
qwerty_1234
03-09-2015
Originally Posted by jerefprdterra:
“Some good points here. Rebecca of course is now doing well in jazz circles, with her recent album reaching the top 10. Being a soul music fan Louisa is right up my alley, and it will be interesting to see how she develops. I liked Jennifer Phillips first audition too, and it looks like she has progressed too, so my tastes are being catered for.”

I'd imagine Jennifer Phillips will make the lives, but don't expect her to make it past the half way mark. I noticed a lot of church references in her first audition alone, and putting her in that "gospel singer" box would make me concerned that she will cater for that audience, not picking up any wider votes. Particularly as we have what appears to be two other gospel style groups through to judges houses, it looks like they are flooding that market to split votes in favour of a different act.
jerefprdterra
03-09-2015
Originally Posted by qwerty_1234:
“I'd imagine Jennifer Phillips will make the lives, but don't expect her to make it past the half way mark. I noticed a lot of church references in her first audition alone, and putting her in that "gospel singer" box would make me concerned that she will cater for that audience, not picking up any wider votes. Particularly as we have what appears to be two other gospel style groups through to judges houses, it looks like they are flooding that market to split votes in favour of a different act.”

I am looking forward to seeing what the two gospel groups are like.
big bang theory
03-09-2015
Originally Posted by qwerty_1234:
“The main struggle that these "young, white females" have is that they don't have an identity. Typically, a stronger confident woman struggles with votes - Misha B, Kitty Brucknell (anomaly here is Fleur, but she was extremely likeable in other ways). Older ladies do well in the sense that they have lived a hard working life and we are giving them their last chance (Mary Byrne, Sam Bailey) however unless the younger girl has a "quirk" of sorts (Cher Lloyd, Diana Vickers, Janet Devlin), they struggle to get much support in the live shows. The problem with having a musical "lane" (so to speak) like Cher and Diana did is that is doesn't appeal to everybody so they never tend to make the final.

The act I'd liken Louisa to most at present is Rebecca Ferguson. They're carving out a similar "confidence issue" storyline with Louisa (similar to what Rebecca, Leona and Alexandra all had) however Louisa isn't a classic, diva style belter like Leona and Alexandra were - she's more of a soul singer like Rebecca. Either way, Rebecca did well on the show, and if we can see a bit more personality from Louisa (let's face it, there's potential for that with a longer run up to the lives) she could do quite well. It's acts that are a bit vanilla (Lauren Platt, Ella Henderson, Laura White, Lola Saunders) which struggle.”

Considering that Lauren had about 3 of the top 5 best performances of the last season I honestly feel that she wasn't then being disliked for being “vanilla.”

Ella and Laura was sabotaged, and Lola shouldn't have come on a year after Sam Bailey winning as the production was not gonna go for another winner like that.

I honestly think that whatever the issue is though it should stop as I don't feel like a lot of these girls are even being judged on their performances.

As I said I do look forward to hearing more of Louisa just in case she wins me over, and hopefully if she actually does good performances at the lives (like girls like Lauren, Lucie, and Sophie) did in the years gone by that she'll actually be rewarded for it and not turned into a villain by Simon when the odd slip up happens.
jerefprdterra
29-09-2015
Louisa now favourite with all leading book makers to win the show.
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