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EE: Sharon - double standards
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Ell_Ren
31-08-2015
Originally Posted by bumpandgrind:
“I suspect she'll leave him when she finds out about Kathy and then we'll have a few months of Phil trying to win her back whilst fighting his own feelings for Kathy.

I've always wondered who he'd pick if he had to choose between the two.”

I always thought he would choose Kathy.
Marsh.
31-08-2015
He was shagging Sharon for two years whilst married to Kathy so who said he'd choose her?
vald
31-08-2015
Originally Posted by wizardt:
“Why did she have to tell Phil about her drug addiction?
She was never sole manager of The Albert.
And why does she have to tell Phil about Denny hitting her? Denny is not Phil's son”

Because she was looking after his grandchild and he'd have never let her near the baby if he'd known.

Let's face it, they both keep secrets from each other...the marriage is a disaster.
bumpandgrind
31-08-2015
Originally Posted by Ell_Ren:
“I always thought he would choose Kathy.”

Me too, but on this occasion it'll be Sharon I think. Although we may get a situation where Kathy tries to steal him off her - but not sure that's in keeping with her character. That said, I didn't think faking her death for an insurance scam is the sort of thing she'd do!!
wizardt
31-08-2015
Sorry to the Phil/Shirley and Phil/Kathy fans but I don't think the producers will split up Phil and Sharon. Sharon is "Ma Mitchell" and she belongs with the Mitchell family. They will probably temporarily break up but I think they will stay together for the long haul. Phil and Kathy affair is inevitable but I don't think it will happen until 2016/2017.

Originally Posted by vald:
“Because she was looking after his grandchild and he'd have never let her near the baby if he'd known.

Let's face it, they both keep secrets from each other...the marriage is a disaster.”

Fair enough. But they weren't married though but I see where you're coming from. Sharon is going to explode at Phil when the truth is out but she will forgive him
IanMandy
31-08-2015
Sharon's secrets are not nearly as dodgy as Phil's and to be honest, the Bobby killer secret is a tricky one as to whether or not she should tell Phil. I mean sure, he is her husband and has been supporting Ian so he should know. But Sharon is aware of the consequences of this and doesnt want to break up the Beales, she is in quite an awkward position there.

As mentioned above, why should Sharon tell Phil about Denny hitting her? As much as he helps bring Denny up, that is down to Sharon. If Sharon had disciplined a young Ben or Louise, I doubt Phil would have been impressed. How many times did Phil undermine Shirley in that respect?
Ell_Ren
31-08-2015
Originally Posted by bumpandgrind:
“Me too, but on this occasion it'll be Sharon I think. Although we may get a situation where Kathy tries to steal him off her - but not sure that's in keeping with her character. That said, I didn't think faking her death for an insurance scam is the sort of thing she'd do!!”

Me too. I always thought Phil would choose Kathy but the producers seem to like Sharon/Phil so it is unlikely that they will split. I wouldn't want an affair story anyway, if they never did an affair again, it would be too soon. I'd like to see more faithful couples.

There must be more to this insurance scam lark, it does seem out of character for Kathy. It would be interesting though to see her explain it away if it genuinely was. It would show that even Kathy has flaws.
lotty27
31-08-2015
Originally Posted by Noush:
“Ha..oh ok.... Very confusing. Let's see her reaction when Kathy turns up! Be interesting to see what she says to Phil. Somehow I don't think she'll be patient and understanding at him keeping it to himself.”

"I SAID NO MORE SECRETS PHIL!"

Seriously though, she'll be fuming on behalf of Ian and Ben I reckon that Phil's known for about three years that their mother was still alive, I think she'll find that hard to forgive but there's also the fact that she's his ex-wife and she'll be wondering if he's still got feelings for her the way he's been helping her and bankrolling her plans.

I think it will bend their marriage to breaking point but I don't think it'll snap as Sharon's great as 'Ma Mitchell'


Originally Posted by Ell_Ren:
“Me too. I always thought Phil would choose Kathy but the producers seem to like Sharon/Phil so it is unlikely that they will split. I wouldn't want an affair story anyway, if they never did an affair again, it would be too soon. I'd like to see more faithful couples.

There must be more to this insurance scam lark, it does seem out of character for Kathy. It would be interesting though to see her explain it away if it genuinely was. It would show that even Kathy has flaws.”

Me neither. That would be such an obvious way to take it, very lazy.

I don't think Phil knows the full story either, what he said to Ronnie did not sound like the Kathy that we all knew!!! I'll be gobsmacked if that's all their is to it because the witness protection crap would be better than that FGS.
bass55
31-08-2015
Sharon will leave Phil when the Kathy secret is out, and he'll spend ages trying to win her back. There was a line in the show some weeks ago about Phil ending up in his own, and we all know EastEnders writers love foreshadowing. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Phil spending this Christmas alone.

But a Phil/Kathy affair - ain't gonna happen, at least not in the immediate term. Phil put that to bed when he married Sharon knowing full well Kathy was alive.
Ell_Ren
31-08-2015
Originally Posted by bass55:
“Sharon will leave Phil when the Kathy secret is out, and he'll spend ages trying to win her back. There was a line in the show some weeks ago about Phil ending up in his own, and we all know EastEnders writers love foreshadowing. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Phil spending this Christmas alone.”

Actually that would be interesting. Why does Phil always have to be in a relationship? I actually think he works better with Sharon as friends. Shirley too. Perhaps even Kathy.
jamesc_715
31-08-2015
Originally Posted by Ell_Ren:
“Actually that would be interesting. Why does Phil always have to be in a relationship? I actually think he works better with Sharon as friends. Shirley too. Perhaps even Kathy.”

I always liked Phil and Shirley's friendship but they never share scenes nowadays do they?
Ell_Ren
31-08-2015
Originally Posted by jamesc_715:
“I always liked Phil and Shirley's friendship but they never share scenes nowadays do they?”

I can't remember the last time they shared a scene. Can you? It's a shame, I do like Shirley and Phil's friendship or frenemieship and I think Linda H and Steve Mcf work really well together. I don't see why they couldn't have scenes in that capacity.
jamesc_715
31-08-2015
Originally Posted by Ell_Ren:
“I can't remember the last time they shared a scene. Can you? It's a shame, I do like Shirley and Phil's friendship or frenemieship and I think Linda H and Steve Mcf work really well together. I don't see why they couldn't have scenes in that capacity.”

Perhaps they want to focus on Sharon/Kathy/Phil? I think it's a shame that they don't care about Phil/Shirley as friends. I think the last time they spoke with each other was a few months ago. Phil threatened to beat up Dean if Shirley/Dean doesn't reinstate Lola at Blades. Linda Henry and Steve McFadden always have good chemistry and I think they're great mates in real life because I have seen photos of them hanging out in real life

I agree Phil's women are doormats but you just know that Sharon and Kathy will be fighting over Phil soon . Thank god Shirley isn't in love with Phil anymore.
Ell_Ren
31-08-2015
Originally Posted by jamesc_715:
“Perhaps they want to focus on Sharon/Kathy/Phil? I think it's a shame that they don't care about Phil/Shirley as friends. I think the last time they spoke with each other was a few months ago. Phil threatened to beat up Dean if Shirley/Dean doesn't reinstate Lola at Blades. Linda Henry and Steve McFadden always have good chemistry and I think they're great mates in real life because I have seen photos of them hanging out in real life ”

Most likely, it does seem that way. It would be nice to see a couple of scenes with them as friends, they do have a vast history on the square, both good and bad.

That's right, I remember. He came round to the b&b and Shirley had that brilliant line about Antonio Bandares?

I think it is the chemistry between Steve Mcf and Linda H which allows me to enjoy their scenes regardless of what has gone before. The characters also work well as frenemies.

I read an interview in Best with Steve Mcf last year where he said that Linda H was his best friend on the show and that they spend a lot of time together outside of work. I haven't seen any pictures though.

It will be interesting to see how Kathy/Phil interact when she returns and where Sharon will stand on it.

I can't understand how Phil has all these strong independent women wanting him who then turn into doormats when they get together with him. It's crazy. I'm glad Shirley isn't chasing him anymore, and has Buster, agreed.

I can see it now 're Sharon and Kathy!
Hildaonpluto
31-08-2015
They are completely different types of secrets motivated by different emotions. I don't think there's much of a comparison tbh.
Sharon's moral queenliness is still intact!
Miss Melon
31-08-2015
She did go to tell him about Bobby several times, but he was always too busy then when he finally asked it was after she'd got her suspicions about him having an affair and so wasn't sure if she could trust him. It's not really her secret at the end of the day, which puts her in a very tricky situation. For that reason I think she'll still be angry when she finds out about Kathy but maybe a little understanding? Plus she's the expert on parents faking their deaths
Keyser_Soze1
31-08-2015
Sharon has been reduced to the biggest doormat in history and when the inevitable happens and the Philth sleeps with Kathy - she will pout, eye flash and then forgive him in about ten bloody seconds.

TPTB's bizarre obsession with keeping him the 'King of the Square' totally ruined the pitiful 'revenge' storyline - and nothing will ever change.
Noush
01-09-2015
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Oh yes

My apologies Noush”

Lol....ha! Easy to forget x
dd68
01-09-2015
When you are a Mitchell you make it up as you along
Noush
22-10-2015
What's the betting, when Phil returns, she'll do that thing with her eyes and seductively coo "no more lies"???!!

It's all she ever says the silly cah!
Pink_Smurf
22-10-2015
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“Sharon has been reduced to the biggest doormat in history and when the inevitable happens and the Philth sleeps with Kathy - she will pout, eye flash and then forgive him in about ten bloody seconds.

TPTB's bizarre obsession with keeping him the 'King of the Square' totally ruined the pitiful 'revenge' storyline - and nothing will ever change.”

Originally Posted by Noush:
“What's the betting, when Phil returns, she'll do that thing with her eyes and seductively coo "no more lies"???!!

It's all she ever says the silly cah!”

He most likely will have an affair or at least a night with Kathy. Hopefully being held captive by Gavin's heavies will finally put Phil in his place. Then there are the Hubbards and co who want Phil's downfall. If Phil comes out on top I will be really disappointed. I want to see Phil Mitchell a broken man. I also think it's about time Sharon divorced Phil. Never mind all the "Ma Mitchell" hype when she's actually mostly a doormat. Yes she slung him out but what's the bet she'll feel sorry for him? I find all the hollow ultimatums boring. Does anyone know if Keyser_Soze1 is coming back or why he was banned? He was a good poster. (I've missed a few episodes but I'm assuming Phil Mitchell is still missing?)
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