That's absolutely what he's doing.

I find him vile.

How about talking about Farahs sextaoe and being judgemental as soon as she walked in? Saying she's famous for having a child when he is only known for who he slept with, how about the witty way each time he has a disagreement he resorts to screaming insults and derogatory comments and calling the women ****ers and bitches abs referring to their sexual past. ...

Did you miss those examples?

I agree 100%

I like him he seems to have a sense of humour and sees through the others completely which is what some of them dislike. He is interesting too unlike some others in there.

I don't like him he is nasty. Hes been gunning for Farrah since she waked down the stairs. Janice was right about him he was being provocative he was more or less calling Farrah a liar by asking the same question he had already received an answer to because he didnt get the answer he wanted. He also said she called herself the queen of reality. She didnt Janice did.

He's highly irritating - far too in love with himself. I'm no Farrah fan, but he's been anti her from the beginning. Plus he's extremely aggressive. Good housemate though.

I'd happily see him and James out. They bore me witless. They are inane, vain and smug. They open their mouths and it's like listening to two particularly immature 14 year olds. And those high-pitched voices! Yuck.

I know I'm in disagreement with most of the forum who seem to adore this 'bromance' but it makes me nauseous.


You're 100% correct. He was stirring it like a good 'un from the very first night with Natasha. A class A bitch.


Bit in bold - that's not what happened at all. That was a defensive jibe. He had JUST said, nonchalantly, that Gail would clean the bath. Janice called him on it and he didn't like one little bit of it.

Secondly, anything Gail has done for Janice she has OFFERED to do. Has Janice got a sense of entitlement? Sure; but so do the happy clappy bath crew who took over the bathroom for over an hour, used all the hot water and then assumed Gail would clean up after them.


OK - I'm getting Gina flashbacks now. What 'wit'? What 'humour'? He's just a shouty bitch.


Again, what humour? What am I missing here?


Doesn't he just?


I think neither he nor Jenna have any interest in Janice other than as an adversary. They keep picking and going and goading and every time Janice apologises they will neither accept nor move on. It's childish, self-centered and very scheming.

I like him too.
The very fact that he makes an effort to put both Farrah and Janice into their places, is a big plus for me.

He has a very good sense of humour and doesn't take himself too seriously, unlike most of the other egotistical divas in the house.

He'd been stewing about Janice's entitlement and Gail's submissive behaviour all day. This was the straw that broke the camel's back and he decided to tell Janice exactly what he thought of her. That took real balls, considering Janice's reputation. It got shouty because someone like Janice was never going to respond to a mild telling-off. The fact that you've dismissed Austin as a 'bitch', etc. means that you think his motives are entirely suspect, no matter what he does.


Makes no difference. Austin's anger wasn't merely about Gail, but about ALL of Janice's 'Queen Bee' behaviour. He was standing up for a principle. You may not have liked the way he did it, but I suspect Gandhi might have had a hard time keeping his cool in THAT environment...


Opinion masquerading as fact. Irrelevant.


Your own sense of humour.


No.


There's no evidence of 'picking and goading', only a remarkable degree of immaturity (including Austin) on all sides.

As others have pointed out, Austin doesn't let the 'Mean Girls' have their way. He doesn't let them make excuses for their ugly, poisonous behaviour, and he calls them out in the only way they understand. That's a hugely admirable quality, and it makes him my current favourite of all the housemates. True, he should have accepted Janice's apology with good grace, but maybe he's just sick and tired of arguing and making up with these people, only for conflict to flare up again five minutes later.

Such concern for Gail. I always show my concern for people by suggesting they scrub out my bath. Think what it will be like when he's really fond of her. He may let him scrub to loos for him. What a privilege!

Isn't it laughable? But Austin's (and James') fanclub (making up about half the forum if the polls are anything to go by) will just completely ignore that he was doing EXACTLY what he accused Janice of doing in terms of Gail.

Bit in bold one - everything on here is opinion. Now that's a fact.

Second bit in bold - ah, dear. You've lost every argument when you make it personal against the posters. I don't tend to engage in that; I try to stick to the hms and the house.

What about the 'mean boys'? Austin and James are bitchy and conniving and WENT TO the 'mean girls' as you call them looking for their opinions. Tough luck to them if they didn't like what they heard.

Hmmm. Tricky. I've not seen that yet, but I have said a hundred times: Austin is mega high maintenance. I'd gladly watch his gorgeous chops on telly but I wouldn't want him anywhere near me in real life.

I think the Americans are overreacting because they're 80% highly strung and 20% doing it for the cameras.

They know how to work reality TV.

But wasn't that the point that Austin was making though? Janice was trying to take the moral highground about the housemates letting Gail do things for them, but Austin was pointing out that it was actually Janice herself who had being letting Gail do everything for her since she entered, so for her to criticise others for letting Gail do all the work was ironic.

I really do - I didn't want to at first but I really do!

It's hard to judge, to be honest. I don't think I've seen Janice ASK Gail to do anything. What I definitely did see was James bat away suggestions that he clean the bath after himself because Gail was going to do it.

I Liked AuStin on launch night and I like him even more now, he's my favourite.

He's intelligent, speaks his truth and stands up to the American bitches ...

Didn't you mention about not being personal. This seems pretty personal to me. I like Austin but don't even for a minute think he's perfect or incapable of being wrong. You may think his fans are blind idiots as you seem to be suggesting but obviously they're not just like you aren't as a non fan


Do you mean Austin Love that you happily fill in the blanks re Janice in a positive light but negative re Austin. He batted it away because Gail wanted to clean the bath so why shouldn't he? I'll give Janice the benefit of the doubt and assume Gail volunteered to unpack for her, change her bed clothes and make her drinks and snacks.

If sometimes seems that if there is a HM that people like others feel the need to go to lengths to put that HM down even bigging up totally unworthy HMs and ignoring all negative aspects in others.

No, it's not personal at all. It's what happens every year - we get immediate fan favourites or pairs of favourites - like Ginxter etc. This year is Jaustin - see the front page and the favourite polls. I didn't make any comment about any individual. I find it extraordinary that Austin and James' role in making digs at the girls either to their faces or behind their backs is completely ignored by most posters; as is their tendancy to talk out of both sides of their mouth. James seems to want everyone's opinion on his and Austin's relationship; only to then bitch to someone else about the responses he gets. It's extraordinarily predictable and tedious.

I'm also at a complete loss as to what's funny or endearing about either of them.

Who am I bigging up? I simply said that I haven't seen Janice ask or assume that Gail will do menial tasks. I have seen Austin do so - re the bath. I can't stand Farrah, Jenna, Janice, Austin, James or Natasha. I'm finding Gail hard work with the martyr act and I haven't seen enough of the others to form an opinion.

What is the difference between Gail wanting to wash the bath and wanting to clean up and around Janice? It seems because Austin said the words 'Gail wants to clean the bath' He is taking advantage. Whereas because we haven't heard any utterance from Janice re Gail doing chores there is no issue. Most of the HMs have mentioned about Janice's Queen Bee status and doing little for herself, none have re Austin as far as I'm aware.

I'm only talking about Austin as tbf that is who the threat is about. I don't like James and definitely believe he is a stirrer. They're not a couple as far as I'm concerned and I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks that way.

Yes most series there's a favourite of course but fans can be discerning. I haven't always liked the favourite and tbh until your post about this I didn't even realise Austin was a favourite. I know he's not perfect but personally I feel he's far from vile which I've already heard him described as Not by you I hasten to add but I do think the criticism of him is well over the top and not completely based on fact.

Yeah, I do, but after last night, imo, he needs to keep some what out of the arguments.
The Americans are "super" loud and if he keeps involving himself in every argument that's going, he will get on my nerves.

Enough already, Austin. Be warned!!!!

This exactly.

Nope. Some of the things on here are interpretation, which isn't the same thing at all. You're interpreting things in such a way as to criticise Austin's motives and behaviour because you think he's a bitch, etc. You were trying to suggest his argument with Janice materialised out of thin air and I pointed out that it was the culmination of his disquiet over a series of things she had done. That's a fact. You interpreted the incident differently, which skewed the truth.


Not personal, though I concede it could look that way. It was a statement of fact. The argument still stands, despite your assertions to the contrary.


There's a difference between being critical of someone's behaviour - in front of them, or behind their back - and being a mean-spirited bitch with anger issues. The only people they've criticised are the ones who've been giving them a hard time in one way or another. Farrah, in particular, is a nasty, shit-stirring, immature dunce who showed her true colours when she caused a huge commotion over the fact that James was looking at her! Instead of making a joke about it, or making a genuine effort to find out what he was doing, she went on the attack and escalated the whole thing to ridiculous proportions. When you're stuck in a confined space with people of THIS calibre, you're going to react in a negative way. Your argument would hold more weight if the 'mean boys' had been slagging off people who didn't actually deserve it, but that's not the case.


I don't recall them seeking out those opinions at all. They happened to be in a conversation which turned to this particular subject and it all kicked off because Farrah - again - wouldn't own up to her own latent homophobia (describing Austin as James' "boyfriend" in a negative way during the aforementioned argument, the sexual innuendo about James 'slip-sliding', etc.), and instead opted to throw another wobbly to hide her ugly deceit. These are dreadful people, and Austin simply WILL NOT let them dominate the house with their horrendous behaviour. Good for him.