The only one I like is Austin and Daniel. Neither have this sense of entitlement

I know what you mean.

Very loud. But I have met counterexamples.

nope just Farrah

Only if you're dumb enough to think 5 people are representative of an entire country.

Indeed. We have some very media-aware, reality TV-savvy Americans, hardly a representation of the whole of the population of the United States.

Id say the brits are fufilling there half of the stereotypes too being tiring old bores talking about the weather and tea while gail cleans on the sideline id rather have show with obnoxious americans than the other option

Personally, I find Austin the most obnoxious of them all. He certainly has a sense of entitlement. Which is really funny, because he is an absolute nobody. A total unknown.

Austin seems like he is the most entitled of the bunch with his "Yorkshireman" nonsense, and believing that 5 years in England makes him a Brit. His complaints about Farrah being cagey is a mirror of his own behaviour. Austin and Farrah are a terrible combination, but then add Natasha, and it's mentos and diet soda.

Meh, Bobby is pretty obnoxious with his "prime minister" role as if he is boss of the house. Jenna was right to call him on that

Couldn't agree more.

I don't really think the whole US vs UK idea is working though. It would have just been good to have a few Americans in. Also we could have had other countries celeb's in too.

Obviously with this being a UK based show you would expect a few more people from the UK, but putting things into 2 boxes (UK/US) is terribly limiting for the cast and for me is not working. There are lots of people they could have picked from Australia, Canada, the rest of Europe that would have been more fun than Tila or that horrible plastic Farrah person. And really, does it even matter now if we don't know who they are when they go in?

They were specifically cast for this (being obnoxious). The show is deliberately playing to the stereotype so that:

a.) the Brits will of course in the end win (like they wouldn't with a British voting audience anyway)
b.) there can be plenty of British outrage (both on the show and in forums like this one) using the obnoxiousness as "proof" of British superiority (again, like it's even necessary to offer that to a fully British viewing audience).

It's why this show rarely casts actual nice, reasonable or smart Americans. They want trainwrecks and publicity whores, not just because they make good telly, but also because the show wants to use them as object lessons in the end. Even Busey was meant as that, but that conflict got so out of control that people focused on his poor deluded old man shtick and kind of reacted to how well he stirred sh*** up. In the end it's unlikely to happen again--certainly not with any of these people.

Well 7 if we include both Tila and Janice as well.

But you know it's fairly typical when you walk down the street in the US that 3 out of every 7 people you meet (and 3 out of every 4 women you encounter) will be Porn Stars. It's just the way it IS, ya know! Typical!!!

Well thank god. With the four women in my family, I'm glad to know I'm the non-porn star among them. Not sure I'll ever look at my mother and sisters the same way now, though.

I'll put it this way - if this show was being broadcast in the US right now, we (Americans) would be voting to keep the UK housemates in (Scoop would probably get a generous share of votes; he seems okay). On one of the US message boards I go on, no one is pleased with the collection of women chosen for the US. People admit that Jenna is a clever businesswoman, but the porn/loud/obnoxious American facets of her and the others --- an embarrassment.

Stereotypes don't always reflect reality. Many Americans are quiet and softly spoken.

The people on BB are chosen for their willingness to fit into a cliche, but let us be clear that they do not represent all of America - i.e not all Americans are loud and obnoxious, just as not all English people are quiet and reserved...etc etc etc.

Entire regional subcultures in the US are that way (softspoken I mean). I mean there are also individuals in any given family or area that are, but it's worth noting that once more there's the troubling aspect that somehow people elsewhere regard one of the biggest most populous and certainly the single most diverse nation on Earth as somehow something they can encapsulate with one set of ideas.

It's all the more shocking that it's the British doing this. A land where people a single town over often have vastly different speech, habits and lifestyles. And yet it's somehow mystifying to them that a country that is literally 42 times their land area and around 5 times the population has actual diversity to at least match (and in reality, vastly exceed) theirs. It's just inevitable with that many people, that much land, and that many immigrants from that many different places.

I recommend Stephen Fry's series with his road trip to all 50 states. It's by necessity a very shallow look, and does focus more on the physical differences between the states rather than the deeper cultural ones, but even as a toe in the water it gives a rough place to start with the realisation that the US is basically around 100 different countries (probably at least 2 per state) rather than one country.

There have been quite a few quiet Americans. Off the top of my head I remember Dirk Benedict, the 2 Jacksons and Stephanie Pratt - all fairly quiet and boring. By contrast the Americans in this series are good bookings.

I always got the impression that Stephanie was putting on an act (because she's done enough reality work elsewhere for us to know she is capable of acting very differently).

The Jacksons are an odd case too. Basically they're meek seeming because their beast of a father beat them into submission, and the habit stuck with them even through adulthood and independent fame.

No idea about Dirk Benedict. Maybe they just miscast and got someone who was an actual Introvert.

Generally ANYONE in show business is not going to be (an Introvert I mean). But even among the Extroverts in Show Biz, there are at least a few genteel people. They just don't go on Reality Shows.

It was a great series. I appreciated that it wasn't just going from one large town to the next.

It always drives me nuts when foreigners think they know everything about America, because "they've been there." When all they did was visit LA, Vegas, NY or maybe Orlando.

You can't prove a stereotype any more than you can prove that all swans are white. The American housemates are certainly living up to the stereotype(s) though, but none of the housemates are exactly covering themselves in glory.