Pasha has something the rest of mere dancing mortals do not though. Either he knows where the body is buried or someone likes him very, very much.

You rang?

Your spies are everywhere, Mr Seal!

Some i kinda predicted.
I also wished Kellie didnt get Kevin, because i just find Kevin abit too hyper lol.

I know ppl think Pasha should get someone older and so on, BUT the thing is Pasha is such a good teacher - that you hope he gets someone who is a good dancer and will improve (Rachel just wasnt a good dancer lol)

Again Natalie is just a good teacher too - go give her someone with potential etc

Aljaz and Helen is intriguing, as is Anita and Gleb

No.


Why does that not surprise me?

I agree with this post about Pasha. He has got some stick on this forum for not getting older partners, unfairly. Let's not forget Caroline Flack was the oldest female winner, and at 35 is around the same age as some of the pros being labelled as 'older'. For starters, 35 is not old! Age makes no difference if the person can dance, remember Pamela Stephenson? She was terrific. So it's unfair to just consider the young, pretty ones as ringers. Rachel Riley was young and gorgeous, with bags of enthusiasm, but in terms of dance ability was Pasha's weakest partner.

He is a fantastic teacher. His ability to get the best out of his partners would be a bit wasted (for want of a better word) on someone who wouldn't really improve or the 'comedy' act. Even Rachel had some good dances and did improve. I don't think he's been shown favouritism, and as for the attacks on his personality (really? He doesn't show any?), well all 4 of his partners so far genuinely seemed to have loved him. That's more than can be said for some pairings over the years.

I hope he and Carol Kirkwood do really well together, she seems like a lovely lady and it looks like a very nice pairing. However I have read she thinks she'll be the comedy act and will probably be out first. I don't think Pasha will let her look silly, and I believe he will be able to make her much better than she thinks she can be. I hope she doesn't have a defeatist attitude from the start and gives them both a fighting chance.

Good luck Carol and Pasha (as Bruce Forsyth would have said, my favourites!).

On the other hand, as a good teacher, he should be able to work well with an older contestant and bring out more from them than someone like Anton, who, I think, has sometimes written off his partners and gone 'comedy' before he really ought. I don't see it as a 'waste' putting him with Carol either - I don't think she's shy, so she may do quite well.

It's too predictable to have him always with a young partner who has potential and I certainly count Caroline, at 35, as young, and Rachel as having potential (though I appreciate that didn't work out )

I don't think he's been 'attacked' by anyone, has he? It seems to me Pasha is generally well liked by forum members, but I think the occasional comment about him not showing a great deal of personality is fair enough. He's pleasant, professional and forges good relationships with his partner, which is all great, but I've no better handle on him as a person than when he joined Strictly five years ago. I don't blame him one jot for keeping personal and professional apart, by the way , but as a result, I find it hard to feel too strongly about him either way.
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That's a fair point about Anton. It's a habit he looks like he settled into and I hope he doesn't do it to Katie Derham because I'm guessing she'll be much better than that. Also it could be the case that some of the comedy routine covers up some of his own weaknesses in the Latin dances.

I don't think Pasha is wasted on Carol either. If she has the right attitude he will certainly be able to help her do well, I'll be cheering them on and voting.

This is what I mean, that particular comment was a bit unnecessary, there's also some remarks on him not showing personality and about him 'knowing where the body is buried' in other posts. I know the dancers' different personalities appeal to different people. Personally I like that Pasha isnt' as loud and zany as a few of the others. He just does a great, professional job and there's nothing wrong with that. He has a right to try and be a private person if he wishes.

BIB. I don't (didn't!) disagree


Fair enough on the post you quoted - a bit personal and unnecessary.

I am one of the people who said hopefully Pasha will show a bit more personality with Carol and its for the exact reason you have said. He seems pleasant and a good teacher but I don't feel I know anything about what he is like. He's not a funny pro or a strict pro or a relentlessly positive pro, he's just pleasant, so I find it hard to get that interested. Just my opinion though, I appreciate others feel differently. Also, re him being 'wasted' on a bad dancer because he's such a good teacher - you could say that about most of the pros when they get a duffer (Aliona is apparently a great teacher but has had people with no potential since Harry) but they all have to take their turn. I think the way the pros treat someone who looks like a duffer shows more about their teaching skills than teaching people like Kimberly and Chelsee.

I'd agree with that.

I thought with Chelsee, we got to see more of what Pasha is like as he was very nurturing and Chelsee was very lively and engaging with him a bit more than the others.
Rachel Riley would normally get more of an interaction and was laughing at innuendos that Pasha didn't understand.. Maybe that is down to language or maybe Pasha isn't very interactive in that way? I still don't know.

My own thoughts are that I'll reserve judgement until the dancing actually starts, but I can't help thinking that Katie could potentially be alright in Latin and might have been better with Pasha instead. And I think Kevin's in serious danger of overexposure and they shouldn't have given him Kellie.

I like Pasha; I just don't 'love' him! I loved his first year - I thought his choreography for Chelsee was refreshing, contemporary but within the disciplines of the various genres (i.e. not like Artem!) and his teaching of Chelsee nurturing and endearing. I have found all his subsequent partnerships very bland and his subsequent choreographies an odd mix of excellent and bewildering - especially for Rachel. With her he didn't seem to me to adapt at all to the capacities of a less musically gifted pupil. She was middling in ability, not terrible but not innately musical and stilted; he didn't seem to simplify enough to let her find her feet nor establish her personality. I don't sense any dislike or real criticism of him on this forum. How could there be? He is an impeccable dancer, totally professional and seems a wholly decent person. But he has been very 'lucky' in his celebs. Only Rachel has lacked obvious dancing talent and was young and beautiful to make up. All the others have had extensive dance training and ability. None have been old (despite the attempts to say Caroline was!). No other pro has had such a hand dealt so far - Kevin is the nearest with a mere two years of pre-trained dancers, and Susannah was older. I think this years partnership will be an interesting test of Pasha's talent as a true SCD 'Man for all Seasons' pro.

While it's the Daily Fail, and as such should be taken with a pinch of salt, this article claims that Katie could well be a bit of a mover - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...-Sergeant.html

#YearOfTheAnton

That article is such a bizarre bitch-fest (and is probably mostly made up) but it raises some questions... What is Aliona's issue with Kristina? and what on earth do Karen and Kevin see themselves presenting? Gleb sounds like a total sleaze, but is also lucky the DM reporters were too lazy to do any more in-depth research or it could've been worse. It sounds weird that they would get £60,000 for 3 weeks work on the tour when they get paid less for the whole series

P.S. I am loving the idea of #YearOfTheAnton

This year's partnership with Carol will test Pasha but as I've said I think it could go very well. And I agree that he pushed Rachel a bit far at times, but he admitted himself he'd put too many steps in their quickstep. At the same time, someone with some ability can need to be pushed. Anyway, mistakes are there to be learned from and I think Carol's dances will be choreographed to suit her.

Also I agree about Kellie and Kevin, I think it might be a bit much.

It was some sections of the media saying Caroline was old, but there are posts that have said at 35, Natalie is too old to get the young hot dancers and they're the same age!

His relationship with his partner on DWTS was completely above board and played for laughs. She did say he was perfect or wtte, but also that Len was more her type .

The sleazy quotes from Gleb appear to come from the ever-reliable Daily Star, so I'd say that was grounds to completely disregard them!
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/strictly/...nt-show-rivals

BIB: I know he and his wife were apart for a few weeks (and he certainly was an idiot if all that was as it seemed), but they seem to have worked hard to mend their family, and I've never seen any other 'dirt' on him, so I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt.

£60k for the tour? Really? Not long ago we heard the pros got £5k a week and they were in revolt because this was half what the celebs were getting. The tour used to last 6 weeks, so the celebs were getting £60k. Maybe that's where the figure got plucked from...

I've never heard anything bad about Kristina and Aliona's relationship. No idea what they're alluding to!

Yes, I never thought anything went on with him and Lisa Vanderpump it was the BIB I was referring to, plus him not wanting to tell people that he was married, plus those icky photo shoots for his underwear line etc. It just all adds up to a bit of a sleazy image, but if his wife is willing to get past it then it doesn't really matter .

Yep, usual DM made up rubbish, dont know who writes their articles but they sure dont do much research.
Whilst I agree that it was not the smartest thing for Ola to do, going on the ski day before the end of Strictly, it was hardly a case of leaving the show midway
plus I do remember when Ola and Steve were eliminated, Karen was the first pro to offer support and give Ola a large hug, didnt look too frosty to me
and yes, how on earth would they get paid £60K for the tour but only £30 for the series....

Lol! Sorry, that bit was just me eye-rolling at the DM's breathlessness over all these women powerless to resist!

Afternoon all! Glad to be back on this forum, as a whole, for the new series!

Not sure how I feel about the pairings, although I am happy to see Helen paired with Aljaz this season. Kristina, to me, has been paired with Daniel because she can['t be trusted with any other man! I wonder how Anton will do with Katie? I wish he'd get a decent partner for once, so he can actually go far in the competition!

Anyways, back later after the show! Who's bringing wine and munchies later? LOL

Hugs
Heidi x

Daily Mail is rubbish, it gets things wrong all the time, the answer is just do not buy it, it's not even good chip paper.