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What the heck did they show that for?
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bb2011fan
02-09-2015
To be fair many would have a go at BB if they had not showed it and then Janice revealed it after the show had aired. I'm pleased they showed it although it was uncomfortable to watch
cbraa
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Janice is an attention seeker . She was just flapping around being over dramatic until the medic brought up breathing . DING DING ! Janice develops breathing issues, falls slowly sideways, and glides gracefully to the floor .
Nope, I'm not buying it . If she has a genuine allergy then BB would be on it like a tramp on a chip . It would be full on alert as soon as she "was bitten by a bee" .Who over the age of 7 calls it being bitten ? Much less someone supposedly allergic to bee venom . ”

I'm not convinced he was a medic, BTW. I don't mean he was faking lol. I think he may have just been a first aider. The thing is, he didn't Ask about breathing, he asked if she could swallow. Completely different, and an irrelevant question that a doctor wouldn't
Ask. In anaphylaxis, what swells is your airway. You can't breathe, and you certainly can'T speak nineteen to the dozen like Janice was doing. Before you got as far as having airway compromise, you would have swelling of the face, eyes, lips and tongue. (Although lips might be a bit hard to tell, with that ridiculous trout pout that they all have). Doesn't cause seizures either.

I'll give her the benefit of the doubt that she may have had what we call a "pseudo seizure" (often bought on by stress in people who are prone to them - classic signs of that which she showed would be the careful sliding off the chair avoiding injury, the lack of genuine appearance of an epileptic seizure, the lack of a post-Ictal phase, and the fact that she was well enough to be discharged from hospital pretty rapidly by the sound of it,). Alternatively she might have just faked the entire thing deliberately for attention (pseudo seizures, while "fake" as in they are not actual epileptic seizures, are involuntary - they are psychosomatic).
FunboyFandango
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by bb2011fan:
“To be fair many would have a go at BB if they had not showed it and then Janice revealed it after the show had aired. I'm pleased they showed it although it was uncomfortable to watch”

Past hm's have had medical issues whilst in the house, which they then brought up afterwards. I don't remember anyone being up in arms about not seeing the ins and outs of their condition then.
dylan99
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by FunboyFandango:
“Just seen Rylan on BOTS giving a very serious speech about how the fit was real and Janice was taken care of. This was in response to the panelists questioning if she was faking it or not.

Now that is exactly why they showed it. They wanted people to question the fits authenticity. All the while hiding their real motive and dressing it up as 'concern'.

Shame on Rylan for yet again being a mouthpiece for this kind of exploitative TV. You're better than that Rylan. Wake up!”

That's not what i saw. If he said the the fit was real, i genuinely missed it. He did confirm she went to hostpital, is back now, and is fine. He did well to dodge the question. To be fair, he wouldn't know if it was real. If he had it confirmed that was a real seizure, I'm sure he would have said so?


IF he did. Ignore all above
FunboyFandango
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by dylan99:
“That's not what i saw. If he said the the fit was real, i genuinely missed it. He did confirm she went to hostpital, is back now, and is fine. He did well to dodge the question. To be fair, he wouldn't know if it was real. If he had it confirmed that was a real seizure, I'm sure he would have said so?


IF he did. Ignore all above ”

I thought I heard him say it was real, but I may have misheard.

Either way I think they got what they wanted. Everyone's talking about it, mainly debating if she was faking it or not.
PJ2
02-09-2015
Hilariously bad acting.

I'm sorry to the person in this thread who suffers from real fit's, but you're naive as hell if you think Janice's display was one of them lol.
rhizo_mania
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by jazzydrury3:
“You cant fake a fit, dont be so dumb”

What??.
DiamondDoll
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by Sasparella:
“That's DS for you, all experts on all sorts of medical issues, I don't know why we bother with the medics, everyone should just come here to the DS BB forum to get their diagnoses apparently.”

Originally Posted by BlueStreak:
“I agree. The medical knowledge is outstanding. Any disorder can be diagnosed and if you are lucky, you may even see a real life mental breakdown occur before your very eyes.




I give up sometimes with what I read.

”

I hear you both.
ShadowTillNow
02-09-2015
You do feel bad wondering if it was fake, but it didn't really look all that convincing. The way she sorta turned over and then rolled onto the floor was very dramatic. I know this is CBB but would someone actually fake a fit, I mean, that's pretty low. It's not like faking you have the shits to stay off school, it's proper serious stuff.
EchoFalls
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by jazzydrury3:
“You cant fake a fit, dont be so dumb”

Of course you can.
Lou17
02-09-2015
I don't care if it was genuine or not, in 16yrs of watching this show I was actually shocked they would actually show that.
rhizo_mania
02-09-2015
Janice would do anything if it benefited her, and to get her own way.
performingmonk
02-09-2015
I don't think the fit was genuine, even though she probably did feel bad. Janice probably told them it was fake later, so they could show it. It doesn't matter what Rylan says, the producers wouldn't have shown her having a fit for real.
FunboyFandango
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by Lou17:
“I don't care if it was genuine or not, in 16yrs of watching this show I was actually shocked they would actually show that.”

I agree. Why is everyone so concerned if she was faking it or not? We should be concerned with the precedent being set by C5 and these bellend producers for what passes as entertainment.
CITIZENFOUR
02-09-2015
Judge me all you want but i laughed my arse off.

She did have a bad reaction to whatever it was though that was real. Do bees bite?

Anyway, i doubt she is actually allergic as she said she is, i think she had that reaction because of how unhealthy she is. It comes to something when a bee sting can turn you black and blue. She needs to eat, and live a normal life, all the surgery and medication she is on has destroyed her. Expect headlines of her death in a few years i guarantee it.
EchoFalls
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by Lou17:
“I don't care if it was genuine or not, in 16yrs of watching this show I was actually shocked they would actually show that.”

Well it made me LOL so I'm glad they showed it.
dylan99
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by CITIZENFOUR:
“Judge me all you want but i laughed my arse off.

She did have a bad reaction to whatever it was though that was real. Do bees bite?

Anyway, i doubt she is actually allergic as she said she is, i think she had that reaction because of how unhealthy she is. It comes to something when a bee sting can turn you black and blue. She needs to eat, and live a normal life, all the surgery and medication she is on has destroyed her. Expect headlines of her death in a few years i guarantee it.”

Are you thinking National Inquirer, or just web based headlines?
CITIZENFOUR
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by dylan99:
“Are you thinking National Inquirer, or just web based headlines?”

Web based, possibly the sun if they're still around next year
Dix
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by Stellen11:
“Yes but people fitting dont look around them and carefully, gently, roll onto the floor like gillian mckeith and make mewling noises for the camera. Your eyeballs go into the back of your head and you drop to the floor like a lead weight.”

Or if you're sitting down, the body goes sideways, and slips downwards. I saw that happen once, and held onto the lady who was having the fit. I couldn't leave her to get her help, until someone else came along who took over, and I went off to tell a staff member of the situation.

The way it happened with Janice I found very odd, but, maybe that's how it goes with her.
big brother 9
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by heresitting:
“Yep, me too. Especially the way she conveniently managed to avoid the medic....

There is also the recovery from a seizure, you don't just bounce back within a couple of hours.”

As an epileptic I can tell you that you can recover from a fit, within minutes some times. You just feel a little groggy
Philip_Clarke
02-09-2015
6 months ago Hopkins got her own room so we did not have to see her fitting during the night.

6 months later ... this!
Tony_Daniels
02-09-2015
That paramedic was great wasn't he. You could tell she was going to fall on the floor and he just let her drop.
KT_Dog
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by FunboyFandango:
“I agree. Why is everyone so concerned if she was faking it or not? We should be concerned with the precedent being set by C5 and these bellend producers for what passes as entertainment.”

EXACTLY!! The response to this has been so bizarre... People banging on about what a seizure does or doesn't look like, rolling their eyes, saying the producers only showed it BECAUSE it was fake etc... The point is that the programme did not air it in the context of it being fake, quite the opposite in fact, they put a warning out before the programme aired saying it showed a medical emergency that some people might find distressing, they had a serious faced Emma assuring us afterward that Janice was taken to hopsital and is now fully recovered, they reiterated this point on BOTS afterward... Irregardless of whether or not Janice pantomimed it up to get her medicine faster the fact is that BB presented this footage as genuine. ...and CHOSE TO SHOW IT!

...and yet some people really care more about whether or not they have 'double standards' in terms of which housemates get punished over using certain words or spitting, or dressing up like dictators or whatever... I mean ffs! DOUBLE standards?! They don't have any standards!! And neither, it seems, do a lot of DS members...

...not you that's reading this though, obviously. You're lovely.
What a shambles
02-09-2015
I cannot believe that people can be so utterly heartless. This world, and this form in particular, is growing colder by the day.

How IS the bee, incidentally?
who
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by jazzydrury3:
“You cant fake a fit, dont be so dumb”

err yes you can, as a paramedic I've seen it several times. try looking up 'pseudo fit'
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