I think there was an image of a bee - possibly dead ??
or reacting because of all the botox/ plastic it encountered ?

A pseudo fit is essentially a seizure that is brought on by intense stress, and does not directly correlate with epilepsy.

So, it is classed as a seizure then by the looks of things.

look again:-
quote..... pseudo can connote "false, fraudulent, or pretending to be something that it is not."
in the medical field it is used to signify someone who is using it for attention seeking purposes so its not a seizure at all, its pretending.

I'm not a medical professional so I can't really diagnose if her fit was real or not. Not sure anyone other than the medical staff who treated her can say otherwise either. However, I can say with certainty that a severe panic attack can lead to involuntary body movements that an onlooker may, in the first instance, think could be a seizure.

Regardless of whether it was real or fake there is no doubt in my mind Janice was very distressed, as would I be seeing my hand colour change rather rapidly (not entirely certain how she could fake that). It wasn't nice to witness either way, imo of course.

I agree with you about her hand but firstly the way she lowered herself to the floor does not happen with seizures and secondly I don't think for one minute the producers would have shown a person actually fitting and thirdly the security guard/medical person did not show any real signs of concern and did nothing. sorry but in my opinion, and with over 30 years experience in the medical field, I would say the whole thing ( seizure wise) smacks of theatrics. strange how she returned to the house so soon after.

Apparently a forum member does exactly the same as Janice. They can tell when they are about to be unwell and they get themselves into a certain (safe) position. So it is possible that Janice could lower herself onto the floor. Of course I'm only guessing by what I've read about other sufferers when they feel they are about to have an episode.

As a medic you will know that not everyone with fit in the same way. Some look as if they are daydreaming whereas others have a full blown on the floor fit etc.

I don't think it's fair to judge in all honesty. All I know is, regardless whether it was an Oscar winning performance or it was real, I saw a woman clearly distressed and upset.

That's my take on it and I'm not particularly loving Janice in CBB so I'm deffo not a fan and sticking up for her.




Edit. I think he was a security guard and he did say to BB 'I need some assistance here' He probably didn't quite know what to do. Not everyone would.

yes but unless she was having seizures as in being eplileptic she would not know she was about to have an episode.which again strengthens my opinion. but hey ho think we'll leave it there.

Speaking as one who has most likely given Oscar winning performances when feeling poorly, I'd hate anyone to say I was faking it, it's an unkind thing to say imo. It's very real to me. But there you have it and yes, lets leave it there.

I couldn't believe they showed it either, they must have gained her permission. There was something quite 'off' about it all though, showing it last right before they cut back to the crowd, not showing the other HMs reaction to the news or her return. Just bizarre all round

It's of course possible to fake a fit (and while the medical staff might have been able to detect it I doubt BB would show it and then say it was fake), but her hand was changing colour in seconds, never seen anything like it.

My son fainted and had a fit once, I thought he was faking it because it didn't look how I expected it to look, and it was all so sudden and surreal. Then I came to my senses and realised it was real and I shouldn't judge based on what I THINK I know, and should have acted to help him sooner.

The medic was absolutely useless in this instance, and showing a 60 year old woman in distress, even when she was worried about her hand, is beyond disgusting. Laughing about it, is equally disgusting. I hope no one ever laughs at anyone's mother or grandmother when they are in distress, just because it might look odd.

From my very limited knowledge of fits, I believe they come on almost instantaneously ie. one second the person is OK, the next second the person is convulsed by a fit, it doesn't come on gradually as happened in Janice's case.

I don't know about that kind of fit, but when someone has the type my relative does I've been told all I can/should do is phone for an ambulance (which they did) and make sure their airways are clear (if you can). Janice appeared to do this by laying on the floor.

I was shocked at the time how little he did apart from put on gloves and reassure her, but thinking about it if they didn't have the right meds on hand that's perhaps all they could do, and they are by both nature and training able to stay calm.

I don't think it was bad to show it with her permission if it was to educate people, but they didn't at all, and just showed it and then skipped on

You are so right - my relative's a repeated stroke sufferer and people are just so ignorant about his speech problems and so lacking in understanding so often it can be distressing for us all. Even with his obvious mobility problems people often have little patience or are helpful, to the point where when people are it's actually quite a surprise. He had a fall in the street once when by himself for a few minutes and lots of people just walked on by before a shopkeeper eventually came to his aid

The whole thing looked edited to me though, I got the impression we weren't watching in real time. I'd be very interested to see the actual amount of time that elapsed between her lowering herself to the floor and she started fitting.

If she had an actual seizure, then what was going on when she was still on the chair? She was lying on her side and her body was shaking and yet she seemed to be fully conscious.

Good point about the editing.

There are all kinds of fits - they vary wildly between conditions, and in some cases in the same condition! It seems like Janice was well clued up and knew what to do better than the paramedic (who aren't experts in everything) and that it came on in stages, which I can well believe.

she was going for an Oscar there !

I wonder how she knew she was going to have a fit though. She requested an Epipen when she first went into the diary room suggesting she feared going into anaphylactic shock, but a fit or seizure caused by a bee sting would be something completely different.

so how would an actor do a fit then if the scene demanded it?...i could do what janice done right now!!

Go on then.

It really isn't that hard to fake what Janice did you know. Just start shaking a lot and make a few weird noises

just did.

I saw you do it

sorry, cant talk, ive got a paramedic tending to me!! (boy, am I good?!)

if it was a real fit, it was pretty voyeuristic to show it all unfold. Even for BB that's extreme

I have a nut allergy and carry an epipen everywhere with me. I can't believe Janice wouldn't have one with her if she was genuinly allergic to bee 'bites'

the guy who tended to her was useless - I don't think he was a medic but rather just a security guard. Genuine anaphylaxix needs to be treated immediately with Adrenalin. He was just standing there saying 'an ambulance is on it's way'....

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That was one giant purple hand. I might react like that if my hand did that. Agreed the 'medic' was crap.