Sony Z5 or Samsung S6 Edge

samantha_vine · 02-09-2015, 16:51

Which one do you recommend?

I am thinking thew new Sony because its newer and will probably last longer than the S6 Edge

Gigabit · 02-09-2015, 17:46

Be aware that the 810 in the Z3+ made the phone run rather warm so unless they've changed it in the Z5 I'm not sure I would be too confident using the phone...

samantha_vine · 02-09-2015, 18:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gigabit

Be aware that the 810 in the Z3+ made the phone run rather warm so unless they've changed it in the Z5 I'm not sure I would be too confident using the phone...

Hmmm good point. Not sure what other phone then apart from the iphone

Heard the S6 Edge isnt the best battery wise

Aye Up · 02-09-2015, 18:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gigabit

Be aware that the 810 in the Z3+ made the phone run rather warm so unless they've changed it in the Z5 I'm not sure I would be too confident using the phone...

Apparently QC have mitigated this with v2.1, like you I am sceptical. Depending on who you believe OnePlus say it works fine, yet speeds are throttled so it doesn't overheat.

Its not a good time to be buying a QC 810 based device at the moment.

Step666 · 03-09-2015, 00:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aye Up

Apparently QC have mitigated this with v2.1, like you I am sceptical. Depending on who you believe OnePlus say it works fine, yet speeds are throttled so it doesn't overheat.

IIRC though, after those claims came to the surface it turned out pretty much every 810-toting devices out there was using v2.1 anyway - it was only something like some of the early batches of M9s that had the older version.

So it doesn't seem like it made too much of a difference.

clonmult · 03-09-2015, 07:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Step666

IIRC though, after those claims came to the surface it turned out pretty much every 810-toting devices out there was using v2.1 anyway - it was only something like some of the early batches of M9s that had the older version.

So it doesn't seem like it made too much of a difference.

Some videos floating around from the launch claiming that people have recorded 10 minutes of video at 4k resolution without the Z5 (Premium) overheating - and that is the one that would be pushing the performance of the processor to its limits.

It seems as though Sony have packaged it quite well.

SJ_Mental · 03-09-2015, 08:07

I have owned phones from both manufacturers and found sony to have the best software support and less crap filled phones, Samsung soon make sure the phone is outdated when a new one is due out, Whereas sony continue to support for years.

ThisGuysGood · 03-09-2015, 09:24

You could always wait for the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge mini alpha LTE urban plus which will probably be released a week after the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge mini alpha LTE urban.

alanwarwic · 03-09-2015, 09:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by samantha_vine

Which one do you recommend?

I am thinking thew new Sony because its newer and will probably last longer than the S6 Edge

Does that mean you are clumsy?

I used to say the cheap Intel Celeron(on same Intel generation)asted longer than the higher priced Intel stuff because they ran underclocked.

The Samsung likely also lasts longer being lower power 14nm cool !

Gigabit · 03-09-2015, 10:58

Sony do support their phones for a long time, they're just a bit slow at updates sometimes.

However, I'll take getting Android M at some point rather than not knowing if it's ever coming...

Syntax Error · 03-09-2015, 11:14

Sony Z5 for me.

I'm a Sonyphile to be fair, but the 4K screen & the fact that it won't be as common as the Samsung are the clinchers for me.

samantha_vine · 03-09-2015, 11:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syntax Error

Sony Z5 for me.

I'm a Sonyphile to be fair, but the 4K screen & the fact that it won't be as common as the Samsung are the clinchers for me.

4K is only on the premium
If I get the Z5 I will get normal one or compact
I would like to see what the Samsung S7 offers but that's not out till next year right...can't wait that long tbh

samantha_vine · 03-09-2015, 11:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Does that mean you are clumsy?

I used to say the cheap Intel Celeron(on same Intel generation)asted longer than the higher priced Intel stuff because they ran underclocked.

The Samsung likely also lasts longer being lower power 14nm cool !

Nah not clumsy at all
What I meant is that some phones...After a years use...they become really slow etc....and problems start occurring.

alanwarwic · 03-09-2015, 11:54

Z5 = 6 watt SOC.
S6 =5 watt SOC
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9330/e...20-deep-dive/7

And that shows the G6 up to 50% faster on less watts whilst driving a much higher resolution screen. So dont buy the Z5 for snappy gaming.

finbaar · 03-09-2015, 12:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Z5 = 6 watt SOC.
S6 =5 watt SOC
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9330/e...20-deep-dive/7

And that shows the G6 up to 50% faster on less watts whilst driving a much higher resolution screen. So dont buy the Z5 for snappy gaming.

But the S6 wil sloooowww right down after a few weeks. An inevitable result of the Samsung software.

alanwarwic · 03-09-2015, 12:33

Thanks for your accurate technical posting. It will stunt your childs growth too.

Step666 · 03-09-2015, 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by SJ_Mental

I have owned phones from both manufacturers and found sony to have the best software support and less crap filled phones, Samsung soon make sure the phone is outdated when a new one is due out, Whereas sony continue to support for years.

I'm pretty certain that the opposite is true, that Samsung have the track record of supporting handsets for longer.

As far back as the S2, Samsung handsets were receiving firmware updates more than 2 years after launch. If you look at Sony or HTC handsets of the same era, support stopped for them months or even a year earlier.

Just because a manufacturer releases a new handset doesn't mean support for the old one stops.

Mark in Essex · 03-09-2015, 14:39

Have you considered any other phones as the Huawei Mate S looks very tempting:

http://consumer.huawei.com/minisite/worldwide/mateS/

JordyD · 03-09-2015, 20:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syntax Error

Sony Z5 for me.

I'm a Sonyphile to be fair, but the 4K screen & the fact that it won't be as common as the Samsung are the clinchers for me.

Yes, the Z5 line including the compact looks like a strong lineup to me. I hope Sony makes some progress this time around, they make some decent handsets, but always seem to get overlooked.

Only drawback for me is that they don't use Amoled.

clewsy · 03-09-2015, 23:02

I thought that Moto x Style was meant to be released today?

Faust · 05-09-2015, 16:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by JordyD

Yes, the Z5 line including the compact looks like a strong lineup to me. I hope Sony makes some progress this time around, they make some decent handsets, but always seem to get overlooked.

Only drawback for me is that they don't use Amoled.

The reasons Sony's mobile division fails to make money is mainly due to poor product promotion, and more importantly the quality of it's product is much higher than most other manufacturers.

In essence it is over engineered. I would pick Sony for quality innovation and durability every time.

alanwarwic · 05-09-2015, 16:54

Depends if you count a durable waterproof casing as quality. And until recent their screens were lacklustre.

I always liked the Sonys for their styling, but it is extremely debatable which manufacturers are the top for quality.

Gigabit · 05-09-2015, 17:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Depends if you count a durable waterproof casing as quality. And until recent their screens were lacklustre.

I always liked the Sonys for their styling, but it is extremely debatable which manufacturers are the top for quality.

The last lacklustre Sony screen was on the Xperia Z1.

samantha_vine · 23-09-2015, 01:24

Guys anyone tried the Z5?
Would you take that over the iphone 6?

clonmult · 23-09-2015, 08:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by samantha_vine

Guys anyone tried the Z5?
Would you take that over the iphone 6?

The Z5 is only at pre-order.

Choice of iPhone or Android is typically very personal. I'd go for Android over any iOS device every day, but some would make a different choice.

02-09-2015, 16:51	#1
samantha_vine Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 1,167	Sony Z5 or Samsung S6 Edge Which one do you recommend? I am thinking thew new Sony because its newer and will probably last longer than the S6 Edge

02-09-2015, 17:46	#2
Gigabit Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,887	Be aware that the 810 in the Z3+ made the phone run rather warm so unless they've changed it in the Z5 I'm not sure I would be too confident using the phone...

02-09-2015, 18:08	#3
samantha_vine Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 1,167	Quote: Originally Posted by Gigabit Be aware that the 810 in the Z3+ made the phone run rather warm so unless they've changed it in the Z5 I'm not sure I would be too confident using the phone... Hmmm good point. Not sure what other phone then apart from the iphone Heard the S6 Edge isnt the best battery wise

02-09-2015, 18:21	#4
Aye Up Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: North West Posts: 4,885	Quote: Originally Posted by Gigabit Be aware that the 810 in the Z3+ made the phone run rather warm so unless they've changed it in the Z5 I'm not sure I would be too confident using the phone... Apparently QC have mitigated this with v2.1, like you I am sceptical. Depending on who you believe OnePlus say it works fine, yet speeds are throttled so it doesn't overheat. Its not a good time to be buying a QC 810 based device at the moment.

03-09-2015, 00:09	#5
Step666 Forum Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,274	Quote: Originally Posted by Aye Up Apparently QC have mitigated this with v2.1, like you I am sceptical. Depending on who you believe OnePlus say it works fine, yet speeds are throttled so it doesn't overheat. IIRC though, after those claims came to the surface it turned out pretty much every 810-toting devices out there was using v2.1 anyway - it was only something like some of the early batches of M9s that had the older version. So it doesn't seem like it made too much of a difference.

03-09-2015, 07:56	#6
clonmult Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,291	Quote: Originally Posted by Step666 IIRC though, after those claims came to the surface it turned out pretty much every 810-toting devices out there was using v2.1 anyway - it was only something like some of the early batches of M9s that had the older version. So it doesn't seem like it made too much of a difference. Some videos floating around from the launch claiming that people have recorded 10 minutes of video at 4k resolution without the Z5 (Premium) overheating - and that is the one that would be pushing the performance of the processor to its limits. It seems as though Sony have packaged it quite well.

03-09-2015, 08:07	#7
SJ_Mental Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melting pot of friendship Posts: 11,734	I have owned phones from both manufacturers and found sony to have the best software support and less crap filled phones, Samsung soon make sure the phone is outdated when a new one is due out, Whereas sony continue to support for years.

03-09-2015, 09:24	#8
ThisGuysGood Inactive Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 598	You could always wait for the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge mini alpha LTE urban plus which will probably be released a week after the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge mini alpha LTE urban.

03-09-2015, 09:58	#9
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Quote: Originally Posted by samantha_vine Which one do you recommend? I am thinking thew new Sony because its newer and will probably last longer than the S6 Edge Does that mean you are clumsy? I used to say the cheap Intel Celeron(on same Intel generation)asted longer than the higher priced Intel stuff because they ran underclocked. The Samsung likely also lasts longer being lower power 14nm cool !

03-09-2015, 10:58	#10
Gigabit Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,887	Sony do support their phones for a long time, they're just a bit slow at updates sometimes. However, I'll take getting Android M at some point rather than not knowing if it's ever coming...

03-09-2015, 11:14	#11
Syntax Error Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manchester, England Posts: 19,941	Sony Z5 for me. I'm a Sonyphile to be fair, but the 4K screen & the fact that it won't be as common as the Samsung are the clinchers for me.

03-09-2015, 11:52	#12
samantha_vine Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 1,167	Quote: Originally Posted by Syntax Error Sony Z5 for me. I'm a Sonyphile to be fair, but the 4K screen & the fact that it won't be as common as the Samsung are the clinchers for me. 4K is only on the premium If I get the Z5 I will get normal one or compact I would like to see what the Samsung S7 offers but that's not out till next year right...can't wait that long tbh

03-09-2015, 11:53	#13
samantha_vine Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 1,167	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic Does that mean you are clumsy? I used to say the cheap Intel Celeron(on same Intel generation)asted longer than the higher priced Intel stuff because they ran underclocked. The Samsung likely also lasts longer being lower power 14nm cool ! Nah not clumsy at all What I meant is that some phones...After a years use...they become really slow etc....and problems start occurring.

03-09-2015, 11:54	#14
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Z5 = 6 watt SOC. S6 =5 watt SOC http://www.anandtech.com/show/9330/e...20-deep-dive/7 And that shows the G6 up to 50% faster on less watts whilst driving a much higher resolution screen. So dont buy the Z5 for snappy gaming.

03-09-2015, 12:20	#15
finbaar Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,921	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic Z5 = 6 watt SOC. S6 =5 watt SOC http://www.anandtech.com/show/9330/e...20-deep-dive/7 And that shows the G6 up to 50% faster on less watts whilst driving a much higher resolution screen. So dont buy the Z5 for snappy gaming. But the S6 wil sloooowww right down after a few weeks. An inevitable result of the Samsung software.

03-09-2015, 12:33	#16
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Thanks for your accurate technical posting. It will stunt your childs growth too.

03-09-2015, 13:02	#17
Step666 Forum Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,274	Quote: Originally Posted by SJ_Mental I have owned phones from both manufacturers and found sony to have the best software support and less crap filled phones, Samsung soon make sure the phone is outdated when a new one is due out, Whereas sony continue to support for years. I'm pretty certain that the opposite is true, that Samsung have the track record of supporting handsets for longer. As far back as the S2, Samsung handsets were receiving firmware updates more than 2 years after launch. If you look at Sony or HTC handsets of the same era, support stopped for them months or even a year earlier. Just because a manufacturer releases a new handset doesn't mean support for the old one stops.

03-09-2015, 14:39	#18
Mark in Essex Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,644	Have you considered any other phones as the Huawei Mate S looks very tempting: http://consumer.huawei.com/minisite/worldwide/mateS/

03-09-2015, 20:20	#19
JordyD Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 3,983	Quote: Originally Posted by Syntax Error Sony Z5 for me. I'm a Sonyphile to be fair, but the 4K screen & the fact that it won't be as common as the Samsung are the clinchers for me. Yes, the Z5 line including the compact looks like a strong lineup to me. I hope Sony makes some progress this time around, they make some decent handsets, but always seem to get overlooked. Only drawback for me is that they don't use Amoled.

03-09-2015, 23:02	#20
clewsy Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Midlands Posts: 2,860	I thought that Moto x Style was meant to be released today?

05-09-2015, 16:39	#21
Faust Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: UK Posts: 8,103	Quote: Originally Posted by JordyD Yes, the Z5 line including the compact looks like a strong lineup to me. I hope Sony makes some progress this time around, they make some decent handsets, but always seem to get overlooked. Only drawback for me is that they don't use Amoled. The reasons Sony's mobile division fails to make money is mainly due to poor product promotion, and more importantly the quality of it's product is much higher than most other manufacturers. In essence it is over engineered. I would pick Sony for quality innovation and durability every time.

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Sony Z5 or Samsung S6 Edge

05-09-2015, 16:54	#22
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Depends if you count a durable waterproof casing as quality. And until recent their screens were lacklustre. I always liked the Sonys for their styling, but it is extremely debatable which manufacturers are the top for quality.

05-09-2015, 17:10	#23
Gigabit Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,887	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic Depends if you count a durable waterproof casing as quality. And until recent their screens were lacklustre. I always liked the Sonys for their styling, but it is extremely debatable which manufacturers are the top for quality. The last lacklustre Sony screen was on the Xperia Z1.

23-09-2015, 01:24	#24
samantha_vine Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 1,167	Guys anyone tried the Z5? Would you take that over the iphone 6?

23-09-2015, 08:26	#25
clonmult Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,291	Quote: Originally Posted by samantha_vine Guys anyone tried the Z5? Would you take that over the iphone 6? The Z5 is only at pre-order. Choice of iPhone or Android is typically very personal. I'd go for Android over any iOS device every day, but some would make a different choice.