another stupid AV problem

Stator · 16-04-2005, 12:28

Trying to get TV out from a pc come media player to work with my TV. I've got a few cables sets but I can't get a good picture on any of them.

I've got what seems to be a good cable that connects the composite yellow out from the computer into a SCART plug, which connects to my TV. The picture on my TV seems to be bleeding a lot, but is in colour. If I connect it to either of the SCART sockets on my VCR, the picture is sharp but black and white. I thought the black and white issue was only a problem when connecting through the SVIDEO -> SCART adapter, which I can also use, but gives the same results.

What am I doing wrong

clockworks999 · 16-04-2005, 17:20

What video out sockets have you got on the PC?

rfarn@gotadsl.c · 16-04-2005, 17:56

could it be that either the scart cables are rgb only or that particular scart socket is set to RGB only? or you are pushing an RGB signal into a non RGB scart socket.

happened to me a while back and took me ages to suss that is what i had done.

Stator · 16-04-2005, 18:27

The PC has both S-VIDEO and COMPOSITE (yellow) connectors. I've tried connecting both sockets (not at the same time), through a SCART cable, and whichever one I use, it get nasty bleeding on the telly, and black and white picture on the VCR, which I simply don't understand. My VCR unit is 12 months old, is made by SHARP and has two SCART sockets both of which do the same thing. The TV is a 5 yearold 14inch portable piece of crap, but it has a single SCART socket which works fine with my other devices like freeivew & vcr.

clockworks999 · 16-04-2005, 18:47

As you probably know, S-Video will give you a better picture than composite, and RGB is better still, but the TV, VCR and the cables need to be S-Video capable. The black & white problem sounds like either the TV or VCR aren't compatible, or the cable isn't.
Some TVs and VCRs have a menu option to set the scart connector to either RGB or S-Video.
Some scart cables will work with RGB and composite, but not S-Video.

You need to read the manuals, to check what inputs and outputs each device will support, then make sure you have the correct cables.

If your TV and VCR are compatible, your best bet is to use a scart to S-Video (and red/white audio) cable between the PC and VCR, then an S-Video compatible scart cable between the VCR and TV, setting everything to S-Video.

Stator · 16-04-2005, 23:11

The thing is none of the manuals say anything about it. I thought going composite would be safe because thats what I thought all devices would support, but I guess it's not that simple.

I've ordered one of those cables from svideo.com , as they promise to fix the black and white and bleeding colour issues. I guess we'll see if it does. Why can't things just be simple :]

clockworks999 · 17-04-2005, 08:17

Yes, all devices will support composite video. It works, but it is the worst quality.
S-Video should fix the bleeding colour problem.

16-04-2005, 12:28	#1
Stator Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,347	another stupid AV problem Trying to get TV out from a pc come media player to work with my TV. I've got a few cables sets but I can't get a good picture on any of them. I've got what seems to be a good cable that connects the composite yellow out from the computer into a SCART plug, which connects to my TV. The picture on my TV seems to be bleeding a lot, but is in colour. If I connect it to either of the SCART sockets on my VCR, the picture is sharp but black and white. I thought the black and white issue was only a problem when connecting through the SVIDEO -> SCART adapter, which I can also use, but gives the same results. What am I doing wrong

16-04-2005, 17:20	#2
clockworks999 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 2,014	What video out sockets have you got on the PC?

16-04-2005, 17:56	#3
rfarn@gotadsl.c Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 183	could it be that either the scart cables are rgb only or that particular scart socket is set to RGB only? or you are pushing an RGB signal into a non RGB scart socket. happened to me a while back and took me ages to suss that is what i had done.

16-04-2005, 18:27	#4
Stator Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,347	The PC has both S-VIDEO and COMPOSITE (yellow) connectors. I've tried connecting both sockets (not at the same time), through a SCART cable, and whichever one I use, it get nasty bleeding on the telly, and black and white picture on the VCR, which I simply don't understand. My VCR unit is 12 months old, is made by SHARP and has two SCART sockets both of which do the same thing. The TV is a 5 yearold 14inch portable piece of crap, but it has a single SCART socket which works fine with my other devices like freeivew & vcr.

16-04-2005, 18:47	#5
clockworks999 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 2,014	As you probably know, S-Video will give you a better picture than composite, and RGB is better still, but the TV, VCR and the cables need to be S-Video capable. The black & white problem sounds like either the TV or VCR aren't compatible, or the cable isn't. Some TVs and VCRs have a menu option to set the scart connector to either RGB or S-Video. Some scart cables will work with RGB and composite, but not S-Video. You need to read the manuals, to check what inputs and outputs each device will support, then make sure you have the correct cables. If your TV and VCR are compatible, your best bet is to use a scart to S-Video (and red/white audio) cable between the PC and VCR, then an S-Video compatible scart cable between the VCR and TV, setting everything to S-Video.

16-04-2005, 23:11	#6
Stator Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,347	The thing is none of the manuals say anything about it. I thought going composite would be safe because thats what I thought all devices would support, but I guess it's not that simple. I've ordered one of those cables from svideo.com , as they promise to fix the black and white and bleeding colour issues. I guess we'll see if it does. Why can't things just be simple :]

17-04-2005, 08:17	#7
clockworks999 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 2,014	Yes, all devices will support composite video. It works, but it is the worst quality. S-Video should fix the bleeding colour problem.

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